Center Channel and surrounds for SDA SRS speakers

fracks
fracks Posts: 2
edited December 2012 in Vintage Speakers
Taking suggestions on what to get.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited December 2012
    monitor 5 for the center. 5 jrs for surrounds?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,761
    edited December 2012
    CS350LS or 400 work well too for a center...
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited December 2012
    fracks wrote: »
    Taking suggestions on what to get.
    For timbre matching, I'd suggest monitors from the same era. As denrob1 said, monitor 5s, also monitor 4.6s, monitor 7s.
    Depending on your screen size, two 4.6s or 5s end to end would give you a nice, wide center. Additional 5s or 7s for the rear.
    Match the tweeters with what you have in the SRSs if possible.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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  • fracks
    fracks Posts: 2
    edited December 2012
    Would you go with the new FX/i5 for the surrounds
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  • Denzel
    Denzel Posts: 78
    edited December 2012
    i have monitor 4.6 series II for center and surrounds. I did upgrade all the tweeters at the same time (RDO-194's) in the SRS and monitor 4.6's. I have been very happy with the timbre-matched sound from the SRS to the other loudspeakers. I know some of the other fellas on here have used the older lsi series center (lsic) and bipole surrounds (lsifx)... they obviously have much newer components. I had FXi5 in my older system, but they are much too bright and lack mid bass IMO. I also upgraded the crossovers int he monitor 4.6's with newer Clarity components... makes an appreciable difference as well. I would agree with he above that the tweeter matching is of paramount importance.
    SDA SRS 3.1TL, Adcom GFP710 (preamp), GFA5400 amplifier, Pro-Ject TT
    SDA SRS (circa 1988), Integra DHC 60.3 (HT preamp) Adcom GFA555 II, CS400i (center), Monitor 4.6 II (rears) Adcom GFA2535 & Oppo BDP-103, TCL 55R617 55" 4K Display, RTA 15TL (crossovers by VR3), Adcom GFP710 pre & GFA545 II amplifier, NAD C545BEE. AppleTV 4K
    Other Polks not in service currently; SDA2a, SDA CRS+, SDA SRS 2.3, Monitor 4.6 II, Monitor 5jr+
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited December 2012
    I used monitor 4 before as center but sounded boxy/boomy.
    Now I have cs-350 and sounds much better with sda-2b.

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
    Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited December 2012
    Mystery wrote: »
    I used monitor 4 before as center but sounded boxy/boomy.
    Now I have cs-350 and sounds much better with sda-2b.
    Monitor 4s have a different tweeter than the 4.6, 5 or 7
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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  • Denzel
    Denzel Posts: 78
    edited December 2012
    Yes I beleive the 4.6 had the SL-2500 originally. Like I said when I replaced the tweeters in my SRS I went ahead a changed out the 4.6 HF with RDO-194's as well. very seamless across the fronts.
    SDA SRS 3.1TL, Adcom GFP710 (preamp), GFA5400 amplifier, Pro-Ject TT
    SDA SRS (circa 1988), Integra DHC 60.3 (HT preamp) Adcom GFA555 II, CS400i (center), Monitor 4.6 II (rears) Adcom GFA2535 & Oppo BDP-103, TCL 55R617 55" 4K Display, RTA 15TL (crossovers by VR3), Adcom GFP710 pre & GFA545 II amplifier, NAD C545BEE. AppleTV 4K
    Other Polks not in service currently; SDA2a, SDA CRS+, SDA SRS 2.3, Monitor 4.6 II, Monitor 5jr+
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited December 2012
    Denzel wrote: »
    Yes I beleive the 4.6 had the SL-2500 originally. Like I said when I replaced the tweeters in my SRS I went ahead a changed out the 4.6 HF with RDO-194's as well. very seamless across the fronts.
    That's actually not the correct replacement tweeter for the SL2500, the RDO-198 is.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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  • Denzel
    Denzel Posts: 78
    edited December 2012
    Yes i wanted to match the SRS so I had VR3 suggest a slight mod to the crossover on the 4.6 for me so it would accomodate the RDO-194 instead.
    SDA SRS 3.1TL, Adcom GFP710 (preamp), GFA5400 amplifier, Pro-Ject TT
    SDA SRS (circa 1988), Integra DHC 60.3 (HT preamp) Adcom GFA555 II, CS400i (center), Monitor 4.6 II (rears) Adcom GFA2535 & Oppo BDP-103, TCL 55R617 55" 4K Display, RTA 15TL (crossovers by VR3), Adcom GFP710 pre & GFA545 II amplifier, NAD C545BEE. AppleTV 4K
    Other Polks not in service currently; SDA2a, SDA CRS+, SDA SRS 2.3, Monitor 4.6 II, Monitor 5jr+
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited December 2012
    Denzel wrote: »
    Yes i wanted to match the SRS so I had VR3 suggest a slight mod to the crossover on the 4.6 for me so it would accomodate the RDO-194 instead.
    Awesome.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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  • OldmanSRS
    OldmanSRS Posts: 419
    edited December 2012
    I wonder how one CRS+ for the front and a pair of Monitor 10A's for the back would sound? Been thinking of trying that combination.
    '65 427 Shelby Cobra
    '72 Triumph TR-6
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    '88 Polk SDA SRS 1.2, with upgraded XO caps and Erse SDA inductors
    '86 Polk SDA CRS+
    '84 Polk Monitor 10A (Peerless tweeters)
    '05 HSU VTF-3 Sub (Original OEM)
    '20 HSU VTF-3 Sub (three more, 100% cloned)
    '93 Carver TFM-35
    '88 Carver M-1.0t
    '88 Adcom GFT-555
    '88 Adcom GFP-555
    '88 Adcom GFA-555 (upgraded/restored)
    '88 Adcom GFA-555 (a second one upgraded/restored)
    '05 Onkyo DV-555 media
    '89 Fosgate 360 Digital Space Matrix
    '89 Fosgate 360 Digital Space Matrix, internal surround amp bridged to drive only a center channel
    '91 Kenwood Basic M1D Amp
    '89 Pioneer Laser Disc media
    '89 Sony SuperBeta HiFi media
    One PGA2310 based custom built remote volume control
    Four Polk T-15's
    Four Polk TSi-200's
    Four Polk TSi-100's
    Two Polk CS-10's
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited December 2012
    OldmanSRS wrote: »
    I wonder how one CRS+ for the front and a pair of Monitor 10A's for the back would sound? Been thinking of trying that combination.

    I'm using CRS+ and SDA-2B (can switch to one pair or the other) as fronts and Monitor 7's all around for sides and rears along with a CS350 center.
    And they sound very very very good.

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
    Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
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  • helipilotdoug
    helipilotdoug Posts: 1,229
    edited December 2012
    When looking at which center channel would go best with my Polk SDA SRS speakers, I called Polk audio, and they were able to suggest a center, the CSiA6 that would match very well with the vintage speakers. I bought the CSiA6 and have been very happy with it.
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's
    http://www.douglasconnection.com
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited December 2012
    Yea I did not listen and got a CS2 SeriesII it did not sound right.
    They have a Facebook page so I asked them over there and that is what they suggested.
    Now I have a CSiA6 and all is good my friend :smile:
    Newegg had them for $249.00 f/s no tax
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    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited December 2012
    I've tried a couple of center speakers with my 2.3TL's. I've tried a 5jr and a modded LSi9. The dialogue from the LSi9 was very crisp but the center speaker was very noticeable. What I've found most pleasing is no center channel. For my setup, the screen is mounted higher and the location I have for the center speaker is low enough to where it's obvious the vocals are coming from below the screen. The 2.3's do a wonderful job of centering what should be in the center but it blends so much better than having the discrete center channel. This works extremely well for music videos where I want the musicality of the SDA's to shine. At this point, I don't feel the need to have a center channel anymore.

    To accomplish this, I ran the MCACC on my Pioneer reciever with a center channel speaker in place and then went into the settings and set center speaker to NONE afterwards.

    Hope that helps.
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, Pass Labs X1, Marantz 7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited December 2012
    With the switching on my receiver I can do either or.
    I prefer the center channel for movies and like you none for music or music videos
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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