Cheapest speaker wire to test speakers

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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited November 2012
    ^LOL^ $43/shipped! for the blower motor! Ball Joints are pricey,and it depends if they are fixed in the A-arm,or can be pressed out!
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,437
    edited November 2012
    bobsauto49 wrote: »
    In most cases Tony,IMHO,Marketing hype,is what it is! Marketing hype! Most cable companies,and other goods sold throughout the world,claim to have "the best,greatest,supreme",ect.ect.!Fact is,they can't all have the bestest,cause its subjective! I own a Carquest store! I wouldn't for one second try and tell my customers that all my parts are supreme, to say a Napa,Autozone,or OReileys! Because they're not! In alot of cases the parts are the same,in all boxes!(and made oversea's) I would tell them that I can offer top notch CS to them,without fail! Fact is Marketing is what sells the product,in most cases! ACDelco,is a subsidary of GM,and has GREAT marketing! People ask me for them by name. What most people dont know is,They dont make over 90% of the parts in their box! Its made by the same companies that make Carquest,Napa,ect.ect.! Marketing!!!

    This forum is very cable oriented, I made the mistake of opening this can of worms, things heat up around p.5 http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?130490-The-LSi9...is-it-really-that-good ahhhhh, memories
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    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2012
    A guy looking for "cheap" test speaker wire and we've turned this into yet "another" cable thread. Really? No need for any discussion at that "level" in this thread, now is there?

    Use what you have, hear what you hear, that's the way it's always been and will always be! Let there be a flow of electrons, and there was. And on the seventh day of creation he declared a day of rest and "no" cable debates! For he was God and God is wise!

    cnh
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited November 2012
    Should that not read "For he was Roger Russell and Roger Russell is wise"? JUST kidding! lol

    I agree with you cnh. But asking where to buy cheap wire is most definitely a runner up to the "where to buy black paint" thread...no?
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited November 2012
    bobsauto49 wrote: »
    I've tried Mit SG S3.3's,Avt2(which i'm currently using)and some analysis plus cables! The SG S3.3's did nothing for me,as well as all others I've tried,in my set-up. Plain and simple! I use the Avt2's cause I feel I got a good deal on them,and they're nice looking,compared to bulk speaker wire. I'm gonna match my new ML Montis speakers to some Analysis Plus. There again,Less then $160,and they look good! The SG S3.3's were a friends,that were"burned in". I tried them for 2 weeks,and just didnt find any sonic improvement to MY ears! Therefore,I've deciced to spend MY $1000 elsewhere in my system!
    However,i am looking forward to swapping out the Analysis Plus cables,with the AVT2's on the ML,just to see if I can hear any sonic difference! GoodDay! Rob

    So, in one post you say ignorance is bliss indicating no experience with cables and then flip around and state you have experience. Are you related to a politician or do you play one on TV?

    Furthermore, you attempt to compare car parts to audio cables implying that because most car parts come from the same company that most cables do to. Really? Having seen cross-sections of a number of high end cables I can tell you they are not the same. They use different wire materials, different dielectrics, different wiring geometries and even different methods of termination. Therefore, your analogy falls flat on its face.

    As to why you can't hear a difference, I can't say. Obviously, you are not alone, but then neither are the people that can hear a difference. However, for you to blame it all on marketing and hype is truly ignorant.
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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited November 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    So, in one post you say ignorance is bliss indicating no experience with cables and then flip around and state you have experience. Are you related to a politician or do you play one on TV?

    Furthermore, you attempt to compare car parts to audio cables implying that because most car parts come from the same company that most cables do to. Really? Having seen cross-sections of a number of high end cables I can tell you they are not the same. They use different wire materials, different dielectrics, different wiring geometries and even different methods of termination. Therefore, your analogy falls flat on its face.

    As to why you can't hear a difference, I can't say. Obviously, you are not alone, but then neither are the people that can hear a difference. However, for you to blame it all on marketing and hype is truly ignorant.
    Your truly wrong sir! The main flipping you mention,is your interpretation of my post! As I see,you'll do anything on this forum,to make sure your not wrong about anything to us "unexperienced nobodies"
    I never compared Auto Parts to Audio cables,or referenced that all audio cables were made the same! What I stated was that the marketing of the ACDelco was so good,that people asked for them by name.And those same people didn't even know they didn't make their own parts! Hence,the marketing factor!
    Furthermore,my "Ignorance is Bliss" reference wasn't for me! You can figure out the rest! GoodDay, Rob
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited November 2012
    Sure thing there Bobby boy, whatever you say. I can see that from your AVR and Oppo you've been around the block a few times. Therefore, I bow to your wisdom and knowledge of all that is audio. :rolleyes:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • PubFiction
    PubFiction Posts: 105
    edited November 2012
    honestly any wire you have around the house will probably work,a good contact is good. I had a similar situation and I used typical 12-3 in wall wire. If not for how horrible it looked I might still be using it.
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  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited November 2012
    Dont open up a can of worms! hee hee
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  • PubFiction
    PubFiction Posts: 105
    edited November 2012
    well he said he just wanted to get it up and running =] lots of people have lamp wire, if you are worried about resistance you can just double up on it.
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  • azsam
    azsam Posts: 45
    edited November 2012
    I think we can kill the thread, I tested my speakers already. Monoprice 12 AWG arriving today. Still trying to get rid of the monoprice 14 AWG.. noone on craigslist wants to buy it.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited November 2012
    Put it up for a Club Polk Karma ! The world ends in 21 days anyway........:razz:
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited November 2012
    gdb wrote: »
    Put it up for a Club Polk Karma ! The world ends in 21 days anyway........:razz:

    Damn, I forgot about that !!!!
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,437
    edited November 2012
    azsam wrote: »
    I think we can kill the thread.

    Why kill a perfectly good thread? Some good shots have been fired, nobody has been seriously injured, some could be reloading for the next barrage and besides, this thread hasn't had any ravioli yet :mrgreen:
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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