Adding Weight To Speaker Stands..importance??

tophatjohnny
tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
edited October 2012 in Speakers
Just wondering just how heavy a stand should be in comparison to the weight of the speaker? I am getting a couple higher end stands along with the CRS+ speakers I recently purchased and while the stands are 35 lbs a piece, there is an option to add lead/sand and before I do that, how much of difference will it really make with or without adding weight to the stands. Don't want to get too carried away as I am in the works of buying a custom set of stands, but the same question will probably come up there again. Pictured are the stands I will use until my customs arrive. Thanks
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
    edited October 2012
    I know....stupid question. sorry
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  • bdaley6509
    bdaley6509 Posts: 1,167
    edited October 2012
    There are no stupid questions.....
    only stupid people.
  • Blownrx7
    Blownrx7 Posts: 137
    edited October 2012
    Not a stupid question!
    Think of it this way. They build speakers as stiffly as possible so that the cabinert walls do not resonate. the same idea applies to the stands. Since the speakers are (or should be) tightly coupled to the speakers, the stands need to be as acoustically and physically inert as possible as well. Whether they be wood or metal stands, the sand (or the thick dense wood) high density helps to make sure the speakers' design is not compromised by stands that impart vibes etc.
  • Blownrx7
    Blownrx7 Posts: 137
    edited October 2012
    BTW,
    The stands you already have are really good quality. But do this, rap on them with your knuckles and note how it "sounds", then fill it with sand and repeat that exercise. Which do you think would be better for the sound?
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited October 2012
    Not only may it improve sound quality, but they will also be more difficult to knock over. The added weight is worth the minor expense.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,683
    edited October 2012
    just find some fine sand or lead shot and fill them up to the top. forget about what weight they need to be and just fill. makes all the difference.
    my.02
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited October 2012
    I found that filling stands accomplished two things: first, it kept curious little hands from knocking the speakers over (if you use some blu tac or double sided mounting tape to secure the speakers to the stands). Second, and perhpas more importantly, it makes a sonic difference. Just like speakers and subs with more inert cabinets that allow zero cabinet resonance or sound leakage sound better, so also speakers sound better when they are on stands that are completely solid and dead quiet, thus fill em with sand and shot or small garden pebbles (its hard to find lead shot where I am - and I am in central TX!). In my experience this improves the bass response most obviously, and the imaging accuracy as well. Even if you don't notice a difference, I think that it is a pretty cheap little upgrade to make sure that you are not hearing harmonic vibrations from your speakers stands...YMMV...
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
    edited October 2012
    Thanks for the great advice, and I will go ahead and fill them. Probably with sand.
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited October 2012
    well if u gona fill them, play them before u do, and then compare. I can't believe that would make a difference, other that more difficult to knock down.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,748
    edited October 2012
    Lead shot. It has more mass per volume and therefore is more effective at damping the stands. You can order lead shot online from a number of sources, Google is your friend.
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  • oldmodman
    oldmodman Posts: 740
    edited October 2012
    I filled all my stands with clean sand.
    And my cats can still knock them over.
    I wonder if it was the clean sand attracting them?
  • ambiophonics
    ambiophonics Posts: 726
    edited October 2012
    Try dirty sand...?
    oldmodman wrote: »
    I filled all my stands with clean sand.
    And my cats can still knock them over.
    I wonder if it was the clean sand attracting them?
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  • specd_out
    specd_out Posts: 505
    edited October 2012
    weighing down the stands also helps with decoupling or coupling (I forget which one) the speaker to the floor. It works a lot like placing speakers on heavy granite, or wood plinths. Not to mention the stability advantages
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited October 2012
    The stands for my HT fronts weigh 65lbs each....they are my SDA 2Bs :cheesygrin:
  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
    edited October 2012
    deronb1 wrote: »
    The stands for my HT fronts weigh 65lbs each....they are my SDA 2Bs :cheesygrin:

    right on D. mine too, so the CRS+'s will be keeping em company on both sides!!:eek:
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited October 2012
    cant wait to hear them! :mrgreen: