T3

kberg

Since this will be available on 11/11, I thought I'd post what I read from a sound perspective sneek peek at dvdfile.com:

"Included is a very aggressive Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track that is not EX encoded, nor is there any DTS option provided. But this is one strong mix. Frequency response is predictably excellent, with a very spacious midrange, clean highs and very, very powerful low bass. The .1 LFE really gets a workout on all of the mass destruction - this one will move the furniture around if you crank it up. Surrounds are consistently engaged and often create a near 360-degree soundfield. Imagine across all channels is near-transparent and excellent use is made of discrete effects, including vocals."

"Sounds" like a winner.

scottvamp

I have read many of the last of the year reviews and they have all been great.
X2
TTEE
T3

reeltrouble1

Picked T3 up at CC today 15.99, went home and watched T2 again, holding off till weekend to enjoy T3.

avelanchefan

Holy mother of god. The LFE on this movie is so damn impressive it is unbelievable.

The whole movie is one huge picture rattling, cat scittering, dog barking, truck crashing, fun fest. I saw this in the theater, and it does not even compare to what I heard right now in my home. Dialogue.....crisp, video....sharp, no aliasing, sound....one scene that sticks out is the crane sequence. When it crashes, watch out!

A lot of scenes rival the ring drop in LOTR. One other scene is when Arnold is driving the truck and he proceeds to cut his stomach, and he throws out one of his power cells. Wow, again, very intense stuff here.

I cannot wait to view this again. Notch this movie as one of my top three films to grab when doing reference comparisons for family and friends.

Overall a 9/10

Shizelbs

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. I picked this up today as well at CC. It will have to wait until at least Friday to get viewed. In the meanwhile, Arnold will be staring me down from behind the celophane.

Ron-P

Going to agree with Ave on this one. What an f'ing impressive DD track. The bass is outstanding, surrounds are well used but not overdone and the entire soundstage is very enveloping.

The movie, better than I expected. It does lack the James Cameron feel, but all-in-all it's a good movie and very rewatchable.


Peace Out~:D

wlrandall

Wow!! This one kept me glued for the entire time. Unbelievable soundtrack. This one raises the bar for all to come and is now the standard by which I rate others. Very entertaining as well.

Shizelbs

Originally posted by wlrandall
Wow!! This one kept me glued for the entire time. Unbelievable soundtrack. This one raises the bar for all to come and is now the standard by which I rate others. Very entertaining as well.

The bar by which you will rate all other soundtracks or movies as a whole?

wlrandall

Soundtracks. Like I said, it was very entertaining, but I am such a pea brain that a movie can have a less than desirable plot and still win me over with special effects and a good soundtrack (exception: Charlie's Angels II...what crap that was).

scottvamp

I watched T3 last night with about 5 friends. The sound was insane. Clean, distentive and very powerful. My PSW 1200 got a killer workout. Ran it a tad above reference level and had to turn it down a couple notches here and there. This IS the sound reference DVD of the year. Big time DEMO stuff. And I freaking love the entire movie. Never thought it was going to be this good.
The surrounds on my 7 channel setup were killer. Can never be over done in IMO.

On a sour note:
* I have noticed this happening on a few movies and would like some feedback on the subject.
1) In the first ten minutes the sound dropped out about 5 or 6 times. Everytime at the same parts and always at the begining.
Same exact as Jeepers Creepers. Could be an Onkyo thing...
2)The soundtrack throughout most of the movie was about a second off. When the acters were talking it was like watching a Japanese movie. This was not constant but VERY noticeable on many parts. About the last third of the movie I paused it and then unpaused it and it seemed to sync back up again. I have noticed this on several other movies, mostly dramas. This one was really bad. Is the DVD?
What causes this? Anyone....

I will be watching this a couple more times very soon so I will have to see...

Anyway....
1 to 5
Movie
4.5
Sound
4.5 (DTSES) would be a 5 easy
Picture
4

Ron-P

1) In the first ten minutes the sound dropped out about 5 or 6 times. Everytime at the same parts and always at the begining. Same exact as Jeepers Creepers. Could be an Onkyo thing...

I've never experienced this with any DVD so far. I run a Marantz SR5000. Might be a bum disc, I'd exchange it just for **** and giggles. But, I have read, in the past that certain receivers and DVD players were the cause of these audio drop-outs. I believe HK was one of the worst receivers and Toshiba players were really bad.

2)The soundtrack throughout most of the movie was about a second off. When the acters were talking it was like watching a Japanese movie. This was not constant but VERY noticeable on many parts. About the last third of the movie I paused it and then unpaused it and it seemed to sync back up again. I have noticed this on several other movies, mostly dramas. This one was really bad. Is the DVD?
What causes this? Anyone....

This is a firmware problem within your DVD player. Had the same problem with an old Sony player of mine. Got a free upgrade to fix it. If I remember correctly, you have a Denon???? Contact them and see if they have a firmware fix.


Peace Out~:D

scottvamp

Thanks Ron - My Denon 2800 was suppose to have the latest firmware when I bought it but I will check into it. Could be any numbers of things. Just frustating showing off the HT with the syncing problem.... don't think they cared though. It was rocking!!!:eek:

kberg

C'Mon, Doc. Chime in with your thoughts!

From one of my earlier posts...
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Hey Gang,

I just got back from seeing this one - thought it was well done, though I had lower expectations going into it after the impression T2 left.

Anyway, all I kept thinking throughout this movie is Doc's impressions of the extended bass the day he loads this DVD into his system.

Remember this thread, Doc. I called it.

07-06-2003 04:21 PM
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scottvamp

Believe me Doc liked this one. Or maybe if he says it you can sleep better.:rolleyes: Man my reference setup ain't worthy...;)

Dr. Spec

Watched it last night, actually.

No problems with dialogue synch or drop-outs with the 2900.

PQ was great, but not stellar; I'll agree with Scott 4/5 on that point.

The movie was not classic Terminator in the sense the epic and apocalyptic flavor Cameron brought to the second was missing to a large extent. I sorely missed Hamilton, too.

However, it made us laugh out loud more times than the first two combined, and the pacing and editing was fine. And special effects were outstanding.

The soundtrack? Nothing short of amazing. I ran it in forced DD-EX matrix mode since it was only DD 5.1 (big mistake IMO). Surround use was excellent, and panning effects were outstanding. Also, surround effects sound quality was excellent, with great spatial location and ambience from things like barking dogs or a flying wrench landing behind and to the right.

The bass? I ran the PB2+ in the 3/25 mode because I was worried about bottoming it in the 3/16 mode. I'm glad I did - the bass is extremely aggressive, deep, and powerful. The PB2+ is essentially bulletproof in the 3/25 mode and I ran the movie at 8 clicks under Reference Level with the sub calibrated about 4-5 dB hot.

WOW! I thought the house was going to collapse a few times from the raw power this sub and movie delivers. Not for the faint of heart and wimpy subs needs not apply. Quality of bass sound effects was again excellent, with good character and definition assigned to different types of effects (H-bomb, .50 cal machine gun, crashing helicoptor - all sound different).

This opposed to Matrix Reloaded which was largely a bunch of 35 Hz non-descript booms (although a bass few scenes on Reloaded had more character, like chatting at Zion dockside and the Hammer ship rescue at the end).

In all, a WILD HT ride on the right system - sure to please HT nuts, Terminator fans, and owners of motherlode subwoofers.

Doc

Grimster74

My brother just purchased it for me last night but have not had time to watch it. Its going to be a full blown movie weekend for me. Monday I picked up the LOTRFOTR Extended Version for $23 bucks at Wal-Mart. Definately looking forward to pulling out the SPL meter on the ring drop in DTS.:D

wlrandall

Originally posted by Dr. Spec
Not for the faint of heart and wimpy subs needs not apply.
Doc

LOL, thanks for the reminder, Doc. It almost murdered my 350s...

scottvamp

Great Review Doc! Agree with you 100%. I am going to give it another spin this weekend. I bet people are bottoming out subs allday on this one.:eek:

dlew308

I just watched T3 in dts...
wowsers wut a movie

Shizelbs

Originally posted by dlew308
I just watched T3 in dts...
wowsers wut a movie

Where did you get a DTS version. Am I mistaken, but I thought it was DD only.

dlew308

The region 3 version has DD & dts tracks

Shizelbs

Thanks. Lousy stupid region 1. I hate you so much region 1.

reeltrouble1

Just finished watching T3, I also forced DD 6.1. Lived up to everything already said, no doubt great sound track. PQ left some to be desired.

My stacked 450's did an outstanding with the bass, if you cant go for super sub:mad: that most here are raving about (yea I want one too) I did pick up the extra 450 sub for just 250.00 and it has made a huge difference, I can shake my 3000 cubic ft. walls, chairs, and shake whoevers butt is sitting with me.:D

BTW AOTC is on HBO HD tonight man 1080i looks great.

hamzahsh

Watched T3 two days ago.

VIDEO QUALITY: The video quality is excellent. During night scenes the video showed great amount of detail. The shadow levels are natural looking. The picture is sharp but not razor sharp like Matrix Reloaded where you can see wrinkles on the face. Edge enhancement is not visible. I found that colours are not as vibrant as one of the best transfers. Colours also looked slightly washed out. No NTSC artifacts to notice. Overall great transfer but not top notch.

SOUND QUALITY: The sound is one of the best. DD 5.1 track rocks here. Surrounds are aggressive so as the fronts. Center channel delivers clear crisp dialog absolutely no problem with dialnorm here like Matrix Reloaded where you have to crank it up more than normal. The LFE track is very deep and loud it will shake your furniture and paintings on the wall. Overall soundtrack deserves a demo disc for your HT.

Warner Bros. could have gone a step further for DD 5.1 EX or DTS ES 6.1 and gave a better treat but most of there DVDs are DD 5.1 anyways. The Disc 2 is full of extras and loved the trailer also.

Hope Warner will do a better job in audio section for future DVD releases.

Dr. Spec

Originally posted by reeltrouble1
My stacked 450's did an outstanding with the bass, if you cant go for super sub:mad: that most here are raving about (yea I want one too) I did pick up the extra 450 sub for just 250.00 and it has made a huge difference, I can shake my 3000 cubic ft. walls, chairs, and shake whoevers butt is sitting with me.:D

I'll tell ya what - dual stacked 450s are a force to be reckoned with. Above about 32 Hz, those bad boys will hang with a LOT of subs out there. They will easily smoke a 650 in overall output.

Pablo

Been waiting for this one since I saw it in the theater. I saw it when I was on vacation in Mystic CT and the sound sucked (I remember saying my system sounded better than this). I was hoping for EX or 6.1, but the good 5.1 will have to do. I'll be watching when I get a chance to get to curcit city to pick up a copy.

But now that Arnold is governor, does that mean another 5 years for T4?!?

Shizelbs

Did anyone know that for a while they were thinking about having Shaq be a terminator?

Strong Bad

Oh good lord, the Shaq-inator.

I guess he would have been the model with the defective toe. A design error by Skynet!

ziggy0809

I made a reference to this movie elsewhere on the forum, but it's worth repeating here: I could watch that highway chase scene repeatedly, screaming and laughing my whole way through it every time. That has got to be one of the best LFE experiences to date!

This DVD is now officially the first one I'm reaching for to demo my Polks....

hamzahsh

T3 rocks! so as my Velodyne CHT-15. I love the opening sequence when the nuclear blasts. The bass is very powerful and loud really shook everything in the room. After that my favourite scene is the rumbling and hovering of the skynet ships when John Conner drops his bottle in the water. I love this scene and keep watching it again and again. Perfect Demo scence to show how good your HT is! Love the movie and bass.

mantis

I don't think this movie is all that.I watched it and had to rewatch it 3 times as I turned it off the other 2.I fell asleep the first time,it didn't hold my intrest the 2nd time...the 3rd time was purely wanting to see it.


Not my favorite.I like the fact the story continues as IN TIME it had 2,if you seen it you'll know.

Dan