sl2000

jimsvm
jimsvm Posts: 307
edited October 2012 in Vintage Speakers
My monitor 10's have the sl2000 tweets' . Is the rdo 194 an upgrade to 2000. I am shipping out my crossovers to Trey this week,and if I go to the 194's he will need to know. Also will they bolt right in Thanks
Rec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited October 2012
    194 is the current replacement/upgrade
    drop in replacement
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  • jimsvm
    jimsvm Posts: 307
    edited October 2012
    Thanks brgman
    Rec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma.
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited October 2012
    Can they use RDO-198 with additional cap/resistor?
    I read somewhere that any RDO-194 crossover can be tweaked to accept RDO-198. :idea:

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  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 444
    edited October 2012
    Mystery wrote: »
    Can they use RDO-198 with additional cap/resistor?
    I read somewhere that any RDO-194 crossover can be tweaked to accept RDO-198. :idea:

    Yes, each tweeter requires a different crossover mod/value; what you really need to do is figure out WHICH tweeter you want (there are threads/opinions on this).
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited October 2012
    StantonZ wrote: »
    Yes, each tweeter requires a different crossover mod/value; what you really need to do is figure out WHICH tweeter you want (there are threads/opinions on this).

    Easy now. I've never heard of the Monitor series getting a TL upgrade. Let's get some experts to chime in on this one.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited October 2012
    If you check the schematics posted here: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?38755-POLK-AUDIO-Speaker-Wiring-Schematics-amp-More-ALL-MODELS-except-SDA
    You'll see the M 10s Rev 2 which had the SL2500, and the M 10 SL3000 Mod. Both would be the "TL" equivalent.
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  • drgalexo
    drgalexo Posts: 159
    edited October 2012
    My SDA SRS 2's have the original SL2000 tweeters. I'm going to leave them original for now to see how they sound. I have read where some listeners actually prefer the sound of them.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited October 2012
    I have read where some listeners actually prefer the sound of them.

    Yeah, because they have lost their hearing at those frequencies.
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  • jimsvm
    jimsvm Posts: 307
    edited October 2012
    :smile::smile:Boxng up the crossovers as we speak. 194's on order from Walter M. Can't wait. Trey you getting all this?
    Rec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited October 2012
    well they do sound better even with my old ears
    but they sure look cheap no QC sticker or date or tested by label, 198 are the same way.
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  • drgalexo
    drgalexo Posts: 159
    edited October 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Yeah, because they have lost their hearing at those frequencies.
    I'm sure I fit into that category F1, at 58 years old and probably 48 of those years listening at too loud volumes and other occupational hazards, I'm sure I have lost hearing at both ends of the spectrum. Unless you are a unique, I'm sure most of you realize you have also lost a good deal of your range. I'm still going to give the SL2000's a try, and evaluate for an upgrade.
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  • drgalexo
    drgalexo Posts: 159
    edited October 2012
    Hey F1, I love that quote, where is it from?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited October 2012
    drgalexo wrote: »
    I'm sure I fit into that category F1, at 58 years old and probably 48 of those years listening at too loud volumes and other occupational hazards, I'm sure I have lost hearing at both ends of the spectrum. Unless you are a unique, I'm sure most of you realize you have also lost a good deal of your range. I'm still going to give the SL2000's a try, and evaluate for an upgrade.

    I'm close enough to your age to appreciate what you're saying and I'm sure I've lost something, but it seems to be slight. The SL2000 still makes my ears bleed, so to speak.

    Off the top of my head I know of only one person that prefers the SL2000 over the RD0194-1 and he's a whack job who also adds a 2.2uF cap in series, which completely alters the frequency response. Someone did a plot on that which showed huge drop outs.

    The quote? I don't remember where it came from.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited October 2012
    Well I will be 58 in March and because of my years in the machine shop and trying to blow speakers out when I was younger has taken a toll. Maybe I need my hearing TL'ed :cheesygrin:


    F1nut wrote: »
    I'm close enough to your age to appreciate what you're saying and I'm sure I've lost something, but it seems to be slight. The SL2000 still makes my ears bleed, so to speak.

    Off the top of my head I know of only one person that prefers the SL2000 over the RD0194-1 and he's a whack job who also adds a 2.2uF cap in series, which completely alters the frequency response. Someone did a plot on that which showed huge drop outs.

    The quote? I don't remember where it came from.
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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  • djf
    djf Posts: 120
    edited October 2012
    One thing to remember is that the sound at 10KHZ+ is highly directional.
    I have a cd I made of test tones going from 1KHZ to 14KHZ. I can hear up to about 10 no matter where I am in the room. 12KHZ I can hear ONLY if the volume is turned way up, or I am standing directly in front of the drivers. 13 comes across more as a "Did I hear something or what?"

    Above that, I guess I'm not sheperd enough...

    And I also turned 58 this year...
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited October 2012
    13 comes across more as a "Did I hear something or what?"

    haha I like this one old Star Trek episode where these people take over the ship, there time is highly accelerated, Kirk keep hearing a buzz and says what was that? :eek:
    POLK SDA 2.3 TLS BOUGHT NEW IN 1990, Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-198
    POLK CSI-A6 POLK MONITOR 70'S ONKYO TX NR-808 SONY CDP-333ES
    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
    POLK SDA 1C BOUGHT USED 2011,Gimpod/Sonic Caps/Mills RDO-194
    ONKYO HT RC-360 SONY BDP S590 TECHNICS SL BD-1
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