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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited September 2012
    trans am wrote: »
    thanks for explaining. I want to buy a new preamp. i was looking at the GFP-750 to replace my 500ii. the 750 has no phono stage. what do you recommend for phono?

    I like this one
    http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Store/Bellari-Phono-Preamps

    Used can be much cheaper.
    As far as cables go, it's a matter of finding your sound. Every cable colors the sound in some fashion. Some warmer, some brighter, more details, darker sounding, etc. If you have warmer sounding speakers and gear, you want a brighter sounding cable or the end result will be too much of one thing. Look at Audioquest, DH Labs, Kimber, Cardas, and a host of others too. Also look at the sigs of other members and get an idea of what they are using with what gear to help guide you. Good luck.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited September 2012
    You've heard this before. Price being what it is then go w/ Signal Cable RCAs.I had a problem and Frank promptly sent me back a new set .I would buy from him any time I need some ICs.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited September 2012
    When I started I acquired cables on a budget from Zu Audio. Nice improvement in my system. They sell direct from their website, but they also sell a lot of product on EBay. Some of the auctions are for their discontinued lines, but still nice cables. Great guys to work with and made in USA. I still use their top of the line Event Speaker Cables, and their previous top Mother PCs. Look at the Wylde ICs or the Mission ICs. They do honor a trial return policy (either 30 or 60 days I cannot remember which) on their sales
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
    server Wolf Alpha 3SX
    phono pre Dynamic Sounds Associates Phono II
    turntable/tonearms Origin Live Sovereign Mk3 dual arm, Origin Live Enterprise Mk4, Origin Live Illustrious Mk3c
    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
    speakers Rockport Mira II
    cables Synergistic Research Cables, Gryphon VPI XLR, Sablon 2020 USB
    rack Adona Eris 6dw
    ultrasonic cleaner Degritter
  • trans am
    trans am Posts: 91
    edited October 2012
    You've heard this before. Price being what it is then go w/ Signal Cable RCAs.I had a problem and Frank promptly sent me back a new set .I would buy from him any time I need some ICs.

    I just had a 30 min conversation with frank. we are both in NYC. I got the anti cables today and my new monitor audio rx2 to replace my lsi7. before swapping to the new speakers I wanted to test the cables and hear the changes since I am familiar with my lsi7 setup. I played a track. Autechre "eggshell" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4jpy836IJo

    my old cables sounded very lively in the hi hat part. there are little nuances and l/r very crisp.
    they sound too rounded in the highs. Like the high hats should sound crisp but they sounded dull on the anti cables.
    I got my monitor audio rx2 today and my anti cables from paul. I was anxious to swap to the new speakers but I wanted to do a comparison between my old cables and the anticables to see hear the changes.

    I listened to a track I am very familiar with that starts with a hi hat roll. I attached it so you can hear it. on my old cables it it actually sounded better. the hihat part jumps left and right and there are acute nuances and crisp and detailed. the anti cables made it sound too round. the excitement was gone. maybe because they are new? I dont know. I am paid $418 bux from paul and I can get the same from Frank for almost half. I am going to order the equivalent from frank and compare and send the lesser sounding cables back. I must tell you the RX2 are incredible. They were a huge upgrade over my ls7's. But when I compared the anti cables to my old cables they seemed less exciting. I am a drummer and I am all about tiny details in cymbals and little nuances. The anti cables are rad but they almost seem too dark or round. there is no excitement. I expected more for my money. Frank is going to send me the equivalent and I am going to test them both and get back to you guys. They both have 30 day return policy. may the best sound win.

    I didnt win the GFP-750 unfortunately but I scored a nice GFP-565 with some nice mods. I cant wait to get it. I just need to replace this marantz dvd dv-4001 player i am using as a cd player. i want to get a Rotel RCD-991. anyone have this cd player? is it good?
    Adcom GFP-750
    Adcom GFA-555II
    Monitor Audio silver RX2
    NAD T585 SACD
    Technics sl-1200mk2 / ortofon m2 blue (signal cable/ Eichmann mod / Sumiko HS-12 Headshell
    Jolida JD9 II / Mulllard Tubes
    SignalCable Ultra speaker cables
    SignalCable Analog 2 IC's
    "ROMANCE WITHOUT FINANCE IS A DAMN NUANCE CAN YOU DIG I???"
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited October 2012
    You can't judge a cable right out of the box, they need burn-in time. About 200 hours should do it.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited October 2012
    Agree with F1 on the burn-in time needed. I have never used the anti cables, but all cables I have employed had changes durning the first 200 to 400 hours. Some of the changes I have experianced would impact the areas that you are noting as being too "rounded" out of the box. Listen, enjoy, and have patience before any final decisions are made.

    Rick
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
    server Wolf Alpha 3SX
    phono pre Dynamic Sounds Associates Phono II
    turntable/tonearms Origin Live Sovereign Mk3 dual arm, Origin Live Enterprise Mk4, Origin Live Illustrious Mk3c
    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
    speakers Rockport Mira II
    cables Synergistic Research Cables, Gryphon VPI XLR, Sablon 2020 USB
    rack Adona Eris 6dw
    ultrasonic cleaner Degritter
  • trans am
    trans am Posts: 91
    edited October 2012
    thanks guys. so what is the best way? should I just leave a cd on repeat while im at work?
    Adcom GFP-750
    Adcom GFA-555II
    Monitor Audio silver RX2
    NAD T585 SACD
    Technics sl-1200mk2 / ortofon m2 blue (signal cable/ Eichmann mod / Sumiko HS-12 Headshell
    Jolida JD9 II / Mulllard Tubes
    SignalCable Ultra speaker cables
    SignalCable Analog 2 IC's
    "ROMANCE WITHOUT FINANCE IS A DAMN NUANCE CAN YOU DIG I???"
  • asindc
    asindc Posts: 85
    edited October 2012
    Try Nordost Blue Heaven (the first editions) for $100 or so. If you are lucky, maybe a bit less than that. One of the best bangs for the buck in cables. As expensive as higher-end Nordost cables are, these have never been discontinued and for good reason.
    Two-Channel System:

    ANALOG AUDIO CHAIN:
    Turntable/Cartridge: CLEARAUDIO Innovation Wood/Kuzma 4Point/Ortofon A95...
    Phono Pre: ASR Basis Exclusive HV——————>

    DIGITAL AUDIO CHAIN:
    Server: ANTIPODES CX (Oladra Upgrade)...
    DAC: CARY DMS-600—————————-———->
    Disc Player: CARY CD 306 SACD PRO—————>

    Pre-Amp: ====> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade Edition)

    Amplifiers: Clayton M-300 monoblocks
    ~~~

    Loudspeakers: MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/Rel 212SX x2
  • asindc
    asindc Posts: 85
    edited October 2012
    trans am wrote: »
    thanks guys. so what is the best way? should I just leave a cd on repeat while im at work?

    Yes. No need to turn anything else on. The signal will be flowing through the cable as long as the CD player is playing music.
    Two-Channel System:

    ANALOG AUDIO CHAIN:
    Turntable/Cartridge: CLEARAUDIO Innovation Wood/Kuzma 4Point/Ortofon A95...
    Phono Pre: ASR Basis Exclusive HV——————>

    DIGITAL AUDIO CHAIN:
    Server: ANTIPODES CX (Oladra Upgrade)...
    DAC: CARY DMS-600—————————-———->
    Disc Player: CARY CD 306 SACD PRO—————>

    Pre-Amp: ====> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade Edition)

    Amplifiers: Clayton M-300 monoblocks
    ~~~

    Loudspeakers: MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/Rel 212SX x2
  • littlewoodboats
    littlewoodboats Posts: 823
    edited October 2012
    Do you have a tuner? That was recommended to me for the burn time on my rebuilt amp. Save the spin time on your disk player
  • asindc
    asindc Posts: 85
    edited October 2012
    trans am wrote: »
    thanks guys. so what is the best way? should I just leave a cd on repeat while im at work?

    And it is best to play bass-heavy music during the break-in.
    Two-Channel System:

    ANALOG AUDIO CHAIN:
    Turntable/Cartridge: CLEARAUDIO Innovation Wood/Kuzma 4Point/Ortofon A95...
    Phono Pre: ASR Basis Exclusive HV——————>

    DIGITAL AUDIO CHAIN:
    Server: ANTIPODES CX (Oladra Upgrade)...
    DAC: CARY DMS-600—————————-———->
    Disc Player: CARY CD 306 SACD PRO—————>

    Pre-Amp: ====> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade Edition)

    Amplifiers: Clayton M-300 monoblocks
    ~~~

    Loudspeakers: MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/Rel 212SX x2
  • littlewoodboats
    littlewoodboats Posts: 823
    edited October 2012
    asindc wrote: »
    And it is best to play bass-heavy music during the break-in.

    Why does the program material matter?
  • asindc
    asindc Posts: 85
    edited October 2012
    Why does the program material matter?

    I'm no techie, but I've been told by dealers, Nordost tech support, and Wireworld tech support that the cables will break in more quickly with bass-heavy music. I see no reason to be disbelieve it, since I had already made my purchases at that point.
    Two-Channel System:

    ANALOG AUDIO CHAIN:
    Turntable/Cartridge: CLEARAUDIO Innovation Wood/Kuzma 4Point/Ortofon A95...
    Phono Pre: ASR Basis Exclusive HV——————>

    DIGITAL AUDIO CHAIN:
    Server: ANTIPODES CX (Oladra Upgrade)...
    DAC: CARY DMS-600—————————-———->
    Disc Player: CARY CD 306 SACD PRO—————>

    Pre-Amp: ====> Cary SLP-05 (Ultimate Upgrade Edition)

    Amplifiers: Clayton M-300 monoblocks
    ~~~

    Loudspeakers: MARTIN LOGAN SPIRES/Rel 212SX x2
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited October 2012
    Why does the program material matter?

    To move the drivers in and out....on a speaker breakin of course.

    Personally, when someone talks about breakin what really needs to be done is just play and listen as you normally would. No special attention needed and they will eventually break in.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited October 2012
    Just listen to music. You wil intermittently notice that a change (improvement) has occurred, but enjoy the MUSIC along the way.
    integrated w/DAC module Gryphon Diablo 300
    server Wolf Alpha 3SX
    phono pre Dynamic Sounds Associates Phono II
    turntable/tonearms Origin Live Sovereign Mk3 dual arm, Origin Live Enterprise Mk4, Origin Live Illustrious Mk3c
    cartridges Miyajima Madake, Ortofon Windfeld Ti, Ortofon
    speakers Rockport Mira II
    cables Synergistic Research Cables, Gryphon VPI XLR, Sablon 2020 USB
    rack Adona Eris 6dw
    ultrasonic cleaner Degritter
  • littlewoodboats
    littlewoodboats Posts: 823
    edited October 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    To move the drivers in and out....on a speaker breakin of course..

    It is not a driver thread
  • gigbyt
    gigbyt Posts: 145
    edited October 2012
    i've found that any decently shielded rca works fine. its the fat end i dont like on some of them.
  • gigbyt
    gigbyt Posts: 145
    edited October 2012
    or the death grip fitting ones.