RCA Interconnects

rromeo923

Ok I really have yet to hear any difference in cables. Still I am interested in getting a pair or two of inexpensive but better than the ones that came w/my vcr cables.
I actually was using some really old super cheap ones that may have come w/my vcr in between my preamp and amp.So I changed them to some old Monster cables I had sitting around. Well it turned out that one of the Monster cables was bad and I could definitely hear a difference between the good one and the bad one, my one speaker was definitely louder.

So I decided maybe I should buy a set or two of decent cables. I want to be under $100.

Any suggestions?
Any ones that can be purchased w/ 30 day guarantee?

I already have Monoprice cables. They sound the same as all the other ones I have ever had. Anyway suggest away.

I would have no problem w/used cables too if anyone has some they want to sell on the cheap.

brgman

Talk to pepster.He can fix you up.

dracoskeeper

What lengths do you need?

rromeo923

1 meter

rromeo923

Brgman thanks.

I will hit him up.

chumlie

brgman wrote: »

Talk to pepster.He can fix you up.

+1 on the pepster. Just keep him away from the 40 Creek.

EndersShadow

Signal Cable is also a good RCA interconnect to start with. Frank gives Club Polk members a discount.

Analog 2 are what I would get.

Face

What's your setup?

Will you be listening in 2 channel? If so, I'd go with Ender's recommendation of SignalCable Analog 2, but with Bullet RCA's?

F1nut

I suggest you sign up for the MIT Cable Demo/Review.

Upstatemax

Another big fan of the Signal Analog 2. I have the bullet plugs also,but they do get pricey if you're looking to stay to on a budget.

wkjeffers

DH Audio makes good affordable cables

wkjeffers

I also suggest looking on Agon or AA and finding some used Kimber Heros, they can be found for $100 to $125 for a meter pair if you are patient. They are very good cables

classic carl

Avanti Audio also make very good cables. Mike makes RCA, XLR, and also speaker cables. I believe he offers a 30% discount if you are a memeber of Audio Karma. He is a member there also. A one meter pair starts at $50. No affiliation.

zingo

Another bump for DH Labs; their budget cables are great.

Blownrx7

zingo wrote: »

Another bump for DH Labs; their budget cables are great.

Another vote for DH Labs. Based on all the chatter, you can't go wrong with Signal Cable either. OR DIY it with some DH Labs or Mogami cable.
Flame suit on:rolleyes:
The issue with whether cables make a difference has a lot to do with the quality of the system you are dealing wth. If you have a lo-fi or even mid-fi system, the incremental improvement a good set of cables may make will be washed out by the capability of the system. Think mp3 and Ipod. If you are using a low bit rate source, it stilll is going to sound like crap whether you are using the cheap throwaways or the $1000 cable. It's all about distortion and noise.
That being said, I've always felt that the quality of the connection can have a more significant impact whether it is on a $5 or $5,000 cable. The solder joint (amazing what passes for workmanship on even some of the expensive cables) and the connector are critical to good sound.
Spend the money on a good quality connector, get some reasonably priced cable and enjoy the 95% (99.44%) benefit.

sucks2beme

No flame suit needed. We understand that many try cables early on and can't hear a difference.
When you move up, little stuff starts to matter more and more.

zingo

For DIY, Luminous Audio silver locking RCAs are my favorite and reasonably priced for a premium RCA.

trans am

zingo wrote: »

For DIY, Luminous Audio silver locking RCAs are my favorite and reasonably priced for a premium RCA.

I was in the same boat as you. I was going signal cable all the way then at the last minute I borrowed my friends anti cables to test on my rig. All I can say is holy crap! I even had my buddy blindfold me and we tested. the 1st 2 times he had my old cables in and then as soon as he plugged in the anti cables i could feel the difference. the sound just became consolidated. its as if the speakers were integrated to my amp. I would consider them if you havent bought your signal cables yet. I am new to this and never thought my cables would make a difference but i take it all back. try it and if you dont hear a difference you can send them back for a refund no questions asked. I spent more money on cable than my amp costs. if I were to make an analogy it was like going from a 10k raptor hard drive to 4 crucial m4 ssd's in raid0 on a lsi 9260-4i raid card. if you dont know what i mean then you should probably be spending your money on some ssd's instead of cables.

Clipdat

trans am wrote: »

if I were to make an analogy it was like going from a 10k raptor hard drive to 4 crucial m4 ssd's in raid0 on a lsi 9260-4i raid card.

LOL, great analogy! That's some pretty high praise for anti-cables!!

dorokusai

Great job TransAm although I don't think I've heard a worse cable then Anti-Cables. Absolutely awful in my rigs but hey, you just never know when your gonna find success :biggrin:

Mark

trans am

really? what is so bad about them? my heart sank.

dorokusai

I just think they sound awful let alone are unwieldy to unwrap and manage properly. If you like them, awesome.

It doesn't matter what I think but my bet is that you won't keep them long-term, you'll easily find something better and wonder why you even bothered. Just a thought.

Mark

trans am

mark the reason I ask is I was going to get signal cables and then chickened out after reading some good things about anti cables.
listen man, I have some radio shack cable so anything is better. I was drawn to pauls anti cables be cause he is from woodbury MN and I grew up in that town and they were less than the signals and he offered the eichman bullet plugs also. I am not in the market to buy 2nd sets of cables. I want it done the 1st time. considering my adcom pre and power amp cost less than the cables. has anyone tried both the signals and the anti cables? how can they sound aweful when I have radio shack cables, lsi7 and adcom pre and power amp? I am in NYC and so is the signal cable guy. If he would be willing to do a shootout between his cables and anti cables on my rig. this would be great. I will pay the deposit. both offer a return policy. we can even go to matrix audio and do the test there. Steve would love to do something like this.

btw this was the anti cable break down

- a 6 foot stereo set of Anti-Cable speaker wires with spades = $60

- a 1/2m pair of Anti-IC with Eichmann plugs = $150

- a 2m pair of Anti-IC with Eichmann plugs = $200

- US Priority shipping = $8

TOTAL = $418

how much would the signal cable equvalent be with the eichmann bullet plugs on the ics?
I wasnt aware polk members got discounts on signals. what are the savings?

F1nut

I want it done the 1st time.

Then you want MIT Shotgun cables.

trans am

F1nut wrote: »

Then you want MIT Shotgun cables.

So is MIT Shotgun the standard? look at my rig first. I am obviously on a budget. What would MIT shotguns cost? where can I get them cheap?

trans am

F1nut wrote: »

Then you want MIT Shotgun cables.

I cant afford them. My rig is not even worthy of cables that cost that much. I chose the anti cables or signal cables for their price/performance.
I just want to try both and see what sounds the best. I am trying to get some new life out of my rig. I came have lsi7 in 2 channel and was reading about bookshelf speakers in the $1k-$1500 range. I bought some Monitor audio RX2 cheap and want to compare to the lsi7 and keep the best of the 2.
I bought the cables so I dont have a bottle neck when comparing the speakers. I copied paul from anti cables so he can see this thread and maybe get some polite feedback.

headrott

I think Jesse suggested Shotgun's (even S3's used) because when you move up in gear, you will be set for cables for a long while. You said "I want it done the 1st time" and that's why Jesse suggested MIT Shotgun's.

trans am

so if that is the case. I need to buy one set of cables at a time. what is the priority? what connection will yield the most noticeable improvement?

the ic from the pre to the amP
the speaker cable from the amp to speakers?
the ic from the cd or turntable to the preamp?

headrott

Many people say they get the most improvement with speaker cables. I started with IC's first however because I got a good deal on them. Two sets: one between my DAC and pre-amp, and one between my preamp and amp. I noticed a definate improvement with the Shotgun S3's in these two positions. I noticed a further improvement when I added Shtotgun S3 speaker cables last.

Many people report an additive effect with adding MIT Shotgun cables. That is: the more you add, the more improvement you will gain, and I agree with this. Many people say to start with speaker cables, so I would start there. But, if you find a good deal on some interconnects, don't pass them up. As I said, I started with interconnects (although mine were balanced).

Although, if doing IC's first; many people report the biggest improvement with the IC between the source to the pre-amp. Followed by the Pre-amp to the amp. Of course, this can depend on what source, pre-amp and amp you are using. But in general, the IC's between the source and pre-amp would yield the greatest improvement, followed by the pre-amp to the amp second.

trans am

thanks for explaining. I want to buy a new preamp. i was looking at the GFP-750 to replace my 500ii. the 750 has no phono stage. what do you recommend for phono?

trans am

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