Removing Vinyl Veneer

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    It's not a petty dispute. It's an extremely relevant dispute. Polk sold these speakers with wood veneer and vinyl laminate. Two different kinds of material, along with two very different methods of removal. I learned this myself, the hard way, when I was trying to use a heat gun to remove what I later learned was not vinyl, it was wood. Guess what? It doesn't work. Guess who helped me out? I managed to have a very similar discussion with the exact same individual, without any "petty" disputes. You know why? Because I listened to what someone with a hell of a lot more knowledge than you or I was telling me. Here's what the same discussion can look like when you actually treat the person helping you with a little respect:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?133739-Can-I-use-an-iron-to-remove-the-vinyl-laminate-from-my-CRS-s

    Jesse was not in any way being petty here, he was making a very important and relevant distinction. When you're communicating in writing with people, it's very important to use the right terminology. It can mean the difference between knowing your stuff and not.
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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    The title of the thread is "removing VINYL veneer". When asked to clarify, the OP said numerous times VINYL, VINYL, VINYL. That is where clarification should have stopped. Everything else here has been a pissing contest and not relevant to the OP's thread.
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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    Polk sold these speakers with wood veneer and vinyl laminate.


    Did they? Correct me if Im wrong, but I don't believe Polk ever made a Monitor 7 with real wood.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Veneer and vinyl are two very different things, which do you have?
    F1nut wrote: »
    Veneer - wood
    Vinyl - laminate
    kidglove13 wrote: »
    Really?

    Does it need to go down this road

    We are splitting hairs now

    All I asked was a simple question, like the title says

    What is the best way to remove the vinyl?

    Thanks

    Jesse's being perfectly friendly, trying to make sure he understands exactly what the OP is trying to do, and the OP is completely disrespectful to him by the 5th post in this thread. I'm amazed Jesse even continued to offer help, I would have told the guy to go strip his vinyl with hydrochloric acid after that.
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited August 2012
    Just to throw more fuel into the fire... I wouldn't call the vinyl a veneer or a laminate. I'd call it contact paper.

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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    I just called polk CS to verify. They have never made a Monitor 7 in real wood. Every Monitor 7 produced was covered in Vinyl.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    Syndil wrote: »
    Just to throw more fuel into the fire... I wouldn't call the vinyl a veneer or a laminate. I'd call it contact paper.

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=261-614
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    aloutah wrote: »
    I just called polk CS to verify...

    You've just verified my theory that you are nothing more than an annoying troll, with nothing better to do with your time than argue about matters that don't even concern you.
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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    aloutah wrote: »
    I just called polk CS to verify. They have never made a Monitor 7 in real wood. Every Monitor 7 produced was covered in Vinyl.

    I would guess that someone with 25k posts would have probably known that.
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited August 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=261-614

    I'm aware, I just don't agree. ;)

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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2012
    Spray paint the speakers and be done with it.
    Grin.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited August 2012
    aloutah wrote: »
    Ah ha, very observant. You mean the person who refused to give advice here and instead started a petty semantic dispute. Is that who you are referring to?

    Exactly what help did you offer the OP? In fact, where did you even address the OP's questions at all? Oh that's right, none and nada.
    aloutah wrote:
    Polk sold these speakers with wood veneer and vinyl laminate.

    If you're going to quote me, at least get it right. I mean, it's not hard to do you just copy and paste. This is what I said,
    F1nut wrote:
    Polk sold most of their vintage speakers with your choice of wood veneer or vinyl laminate. Hence my questions as to which you actually have.

    Makes a BIG difference when you leave out words and change the verbage.
    aloutah wrote:
    The title of the thread is "removing VINYL veneer". When asked to clarify, the OP said numerous times VINYL, VINYL, VINYL.

    Had you been paying any attention to matters, you would have realized that a similar topic just occured with nspindel, to which he provided a link in post #32.

    So, how's that egg feel on your face?
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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    kidglove13 wrote: »
    As you know from my other thread I pick up a decent pair of 7's.

    In order for me to repair the outside of the cabs the veneer needs to be removed

    I have a decent heat gun, will that work to remove the veneer?

    What would be the best way to get that stuff off?

    Thanks


    OK f1, so he originally asks for help removing vinyl veneer from a pair of monitor 7's right? Regardless of this meaningless discussion about veneer vs laminate, he asked how to remove the material on the outside of the speakers.
    You knew from his other thread and here that they were monitor 7's which have ONLY been released in VINYL, not wood. You are a self proclaimed "authority" on polk speakers, with over 25k posts on club polk correct? So knowing this, you cam in and began to ask if he had wood or vinyl. If there was some other reason than to teach a lesson in semantics and expose a newbie for his lack of knowledge, then what was it? Seriously, why not just answer the mans question instead of choosing to debate if his terminology was correct in your eyes? Thats all im saying. There is no reason to treat someone like that. Especially a new person, who came to a forum asking for help, help you could have given but withheld. Help you have obviously given many times before. He chose to ask, and you chose to respond with a non answer and a fight.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited August 2012
    Who the eff are you to tell me how to help someone when you can't even begin to help them!?! And to proclaim that my questions are picking a fight when actually you're the one picking the fight! Really dude, you need to STFU and stay out of my business.
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • aloutah
    aloutah Posts: 241
    edited August 2012
    The fact that you didnt answer the question speaks volumes.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited August 2012
    If you had a valid question I would consider answering it, but the fact is you don't. The only thing you've got is egg on your face and not enough guts to admit it.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    Jesse, don't feed the troll, that only makes them beg for more.

    aloutah, you've been on this forum since Jan, 2010, and have 186 posts. Can you please point me to one single post of yours where you've provided anything constructive and helpful to anyone? Or do you just show up on threads when you feel like it, and cause trouble?
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  • doug76
    doug76 Posts: 6
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    So, do you call wallpaper, veneer? How about paint or lacquer?

    One could, and would be just as accurate in the description, because they are.
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  • kidglove13
    kidglove13 Posts: 207
    edited August 2012
    Hey Guys I got the answer I needed from someone in the beginning.

    Aloutah, I do not need you coming in here and mixing the pot for no apparent reason, nor do I need you to stick up for me.

    I got my answer, be it in a round about way, but I got my answer.

    I am shocked that you other guys let him bait you into this pretty much useless argument

    Give it a rest dude

    You need to find something better to do with your time dude
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