Any Recommendations for a Flat Screen TV?

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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,762
    edited August 2012
    Another vote for Panny plasma here....
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Yes you can use a DAC, not sure about the SB since I never used one.

    But why would you need Audio coming from the TV?

    You need to hook up the audio from your cable box to your luxman. The TV is just a monitor.

    Boy, now I'm really confused.

    The cable box has no audio outs, just a cable out that goes to the tv.

    Also, even if it did have an audio out, i'd still have to get audio from our apple tv. It has a digital audio out and a HDMI out.

    Thanks.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2012
    Lasareath wrote: »
    But why would you need Audio coming from the TV?.

    Because not everyone listens to TV by way of their HT gear 100% of the time.

    Your problem as I see it Stretch, is you have digital devices and an analog only receiver. Time for a new receiver. You could still use the Lux in addition to a new receiver if you like it that much, but your missing out on the new surround formats and the newer audio to boot which is pretty stellar imho.
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  • stretchl
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    edited August 2012
    Ps, Lazareath - LOVE the photos from PAHQ in your photo gallery. Getting him to sign the plates was an awesome idea. Sounds like something I'd be crazy enough to think of. :)
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  • mesquitehead
    mesquitehead Posts: 312
    edited August 2012
    I love all 3 of my Panasonic plasmas!
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    Your problem as I see it Stretch, is you have digital devices and an analog only receiver. Time for a new receiver. You could still use the Lux in addition to a new receiver if you like it that much, but your missing out on the new surround formats and the newer audio to boot which is pretty stellar imho.

    Yep, that is exactly the problem.

    But if getting a new tv (which, again, is for us not too much more than a monitor for Netflix and DVDs) means getting a new receiver I'll stick with the tv we have.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited August 2012
    Do thineself a favor.....google "Samsung sucks" ! Costco and Sams or BJ's all have lower priced Panny plasmas. :wink: I enjoy the the Hell outa' my 50" 1080p Panny !:cheesygrin:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2012
    Just a side note here, my neighbor has a LG 60" set plasma (I thought it was a LED set due to fact picture sucks vs. my Panny Plasma but different issue) anyway.... He lost both HDMI ports on set the other day, and I still using my Panny plasma HDMI port just fine.

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  • whitecamaross
    whitecamaross Posts: 219
    edited August 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    Money is definitely an object. Here's where I stand right now -


    Don't want 3d. Don't want Internet connectivity, apps, games, or anything to tie my shoes for me. Don't want it to find my friends on Facebook.

    Just want a nice big picture and sound through my LSi-15's

    I think I'm going for one of these:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat13504&type=page&pageIdentity=searchDriven&useProductString=true&productString=1218551142746*1218551140821&unProductString=1218541224828*1218601586555*1218551143750*1218599350256*1218599351088*1218577514970*1218577565150*1218599348788*1218552486361*1218599350082*1218628183841*1218672941437&catId=

    quite frankly, you should just get a JVC projector. Projectors dont really have all the gadgets you dont want and will give you the best picture in my opinion. I mean, why get a tv if you can afford a top of the line projector? its senseless to get a tv when you have the money to buy a REAL SCREEN.
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  • whitecamaross
    whitecamaross Posts: 219
    edited August 2012
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Just a side note here, my neighbor has a LG 60" set plasma (I thought it was a LED set due to fact picture sucks vs. my Panny Plasma but different issue) anyway.... He lost both HDMI ports on set the other day, and I still using my Panny plasma HDMI port just fine.

    LG is a good brand, but they do have realibility issues. However, Panasonics and last i heard Vizios also got their act together and started putting together quality sets.
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    whitecamaross wrote: »
    quite frankly, you should just get a JVC projector. Projectors dont really have all the gadgets you dont want and will give you the best picture in my opinion. I mean, why get a tv if you can afford a top of the line projector? its senseless to get a tv when you have the money to buy a REAL SCREEN.

    AHA!

    Now there's an idea I can run with!

    I actually asked the BBuy sales guy today about "just a monitor," ie. no "television" therein. He just gave me a blank look.

    If I don't re-emerge from the Googlesphere in 48 hours, please send in a search party.

    :)
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  • whitecamaross
    whitecamaross Posts: 219
    edited August 2012
    i would consider panasonic as far as realiability and picture quality. however, i have read somewhere that their best sets had a tendency to start losing their black colors (meaning they started to look washed out) after a while. i believe cnet mentioned this when they had a panasonic as their number 1 tv, but later saw a decrease in black depth.
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  • whitecamaross
    whitecamaross Posts: 219
    edited August 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    AHA!

    Now there's an idea I can run with!

    I actually asked the BBuy sales guy today about "just a monitor," ie. no "television" therein. He just gave me a blank look.

    If I don't re-emerge from the Googlesphere in 48 hours, please send in a search party.

    :)

    yep. A tv is nothing but a poor's man projection screen. If people had the space and the money, do you think they would go buy tvs? hell no.... no tv can give you the feeling of a movie theater like an actual projector can.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited August 2012
    whitecamaross wrote: »
    i would consider panasonic as far as realiability and picture quality. however, i have read somewhere that their best sets had a tendency to start losing their black colors (meaning they started to look washed out) after a while. i believe cnet mentioned this when they had a panasonic as their number 1 tv, but later saw a decrease in black depth.

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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    Found a solution, me thinks -

    http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=5279

    From the device's manual: "Now you can bridge your legacy sound system with digital sources such as DVD and CD players that don?t have RCA- style analog outputs."

    Found it here:

    http://www.avsforum.com/t/1384268/help-needed-with-appletv-and-dual-zones

    Seems relatively straightforward, yes?
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  • mesquitehead
    mesquitehead Posts: 312
    edited August 2012
    whitecamaross wrote: »
    i would consider panasonic as far as realiability and picture quality. however, i have read somewhere that their best sets had a tendency to start losing their black colors (meaning they started to look washed out) after a while. i believe cnet mentioned this when they had a panasonic as their number 1 tv, but later saw a decrease in black depth.

    They stated that after "initial burn in" they lost a little black but Panny's black is the blackest there is so there is no degradation in the picture quality. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20014089-1.html
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  • mesquitehead
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    edited August 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    Boy, now I'm really confused.

    The cable box has no audio outs, just a cable out that goes to the tv.

    Also, even if it did have an audio out, i'd still have to get audio from our apple tv. It has a digital audio out and a HDMI out.

    Thanks.

    Get a new/modern cable box. HDMI is now the standard and carries audio and video. HDMI from cable box to TV and Most have rca audio, digital audio outs as well...or you can use HDMI with a modern receiver for audio and video.
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    mesquitehead wrote: »
    Get a new/modern cable box. HDMI is now the standard and carries audio and video. HDMI from cable box to TV and Most have rca audio, digital audio outs as well...or you can use HDMI with a modern receiver for audio and video.

    I may look into that, although the box is the one Comcast installed just a few weeks ago, so it is "new." Maybe there are more robust boxes out there.

    Those HDMI to RCA converter boxes (linked above) look like a pretty good solution to me.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited August 2012
    I was NEVER impressed by LG TV's. I would not recommend them for picture quality and reliability. They are less expensive however, but there is a reason for that. IMO, they don't have the quality (parts) of Panasonic or as someone else suggested, the Toshiba Regza 1080P 120hz LCD.

    I suggest either the Panasonic Plasma or the Toshiba Regza 120hz 1080p LCD TV.
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    edited August 2012
    My vote is Panny plasma. May want to check vanns site before the bb purchase.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2012
    I'm a Sony fan and will continue to be one. That being said, the little Insignia we bought for the kitchen is really nice but I wouldn't buy a large one.

    I will NEVER buy another Phillips branded TV....EVER.
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  • mesquitehead
    mesquitehead Posts: 312
    edited August 2012
    One of Best Buys new policys is they will price match any other authorized dealers price. They matched the price of an Amazon dealer on my 65" Panny this spring. :smile:
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,453
    edited August 2012
    my Panasonic Plasma was 300.00 cheaper at Sears for the very same TV at BB and BB would not match the price. My cost with 3yr protection was MUCH cheaper than BB. Best Buy wanted 1/2 the price of the TV for the 3yr plan. Consumer Reports even states that a protection plan for panasonic is mostly unneeded as less than 2% of panny's ever need service and when the do 95% are within the panny warranty period
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited August 2012
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    my Panasonic Plasma was 300.00 cheaper at Sears for the very same TV at BB and BB would not match the price. My cost with 3yr protection was MUCH cheaper than BB. Best Buy wanted 1/2 the price of the TV for the 3yr plan. Consumer Reports even states that a protection plan for panasonic is mostly unneeded as less than 2% of panny's ever need service and when the do 95% are within the panny warranty period

    good info. thx.
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  • Vandam
    Vandam Posts: 22
    edited August 2012
    I'll be #18 to recommend the Panasonic Plasma's. They have 3 different levels to suit any budget. I LOVE my 65VT30 and it easily surpasses my JVC D-Ila projector.
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    Idaknow... this sounds kinda scary -

    http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php/11408-Localised-Green-Patches-On-The-ST-GT-VT#.UC5NYI6idOQ
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited August 2012
    OK, Panaguys...

    Any thoughts on this Viera, which can be had on eBay for just under $1100?

    http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TH-58PZ850U

    Thanks.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited August 2012
    Buy as much tv as you can afford, but saying that you don't need to spend a lot of money to be happy.

    Case in point my main TV is a 720p 42" Panny Paid some $2400 8 years ago but....

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  • drselect
    drselect Posts: 664
    edited August 2012
    Panny Plasma

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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,021
    edited August 2012
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I have an Apple TV as well, actually three devices, a cable box, an apple Tv and an xbox 360. all 3 are connected to my TV with HDMI cables and then I listen to the audio through the speakers on the TV. Works fine for me in the living room.

    off with your head! :wink:
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