New Adcom amp coming out.. GFA-565se

acmf74
acmf74 Posts: 936
edited August 2012 in Electronics
not sure if anyone saw this but it looks like a step up from the 555

http://www.adcom-usa.com/gfa-565se

GFA-565se Bridgeable High Current Stereo Power Amp
250 watts per channel, 8 ohms
350 watts per channel, 4 ohms
700 watts, 8 ohms BRIDGED

Frequency response @ 1 Watt into 8 ohms 10Hz-20kHz +0. -0.25dB
Power Badwidth (-3dB) 5Hz to 100kHz
Dynamic Headroom into 4 Ohms 2.5dB
Gain 27 dB
SNR "A" Weighted, 250 watts into 8 ohms >110 dB
Input Impedance 100k ohms

Balanced and Single-Ended/Unbalanced Inputs
72,000uF total storage capacitance
Ultra-Stable Bias Circuitry
Direct-Coupled Input & Output Circuitry
No Current Limiting
No Output Inductor
Two year limited manufacturer warranty

High performance component selections include ultra low ESR electrolytic capacitors. The result is lower distortion, better dynamic range, improved damping factor and greater stability and separation of individual instruments on the sound stage.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    edited July 2012
    Does anyone know if the "new" Adcom products live up to their reputation (for quality/value for the $$) ?

    TY

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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2012
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2012
    Can't run bridged wth 4 ohm speakers??
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited July 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Can't run bridged wth 4 ohm speakers??

    It would have no problem doing that if it at all resembles the original 565's. Unless it states explicitly in the manual not run it bridged at 4 ohms.

    H9
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited July 2012
    Nice. Kind of puzzled why they went back to the old style power switches though. No mention of 12V trigger in the manual either.

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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited July 2012
    I didn't know they were still in business...
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2012
    jon s wrote: »
    I didn't know they were still in business...

    Thought I read a thread a while back that stated you can buy Adcom at Kmart now. Wonder if that is true?
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited August 2012
    Their base of operations is in Arizona.The products are made in Mexico.Former factory used to be around the corner from me in East Brunswick N.J.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2012
    Thought I read a thread a while back that stated you can buy Adcom at Kmart now. Wonder if that is true?

    I suspect that's online "only"!

    Currently my 555 is in mothballs waiting for an upgrade to my HT system.

    cnh
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited August 2012
    Shouldn't this be called a 585?

    Also, it'll do 4ohm bridged, but not less than that per the manual- part thermal, part DC fuses. Which makes sense since it's got a 15amp power cord- you'll pop a 15amp AC fuse with that much wattage before it even gets to the DC rail fuses.

    Even the original 565 had a fan kit for 2 ohm loads.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2012
    Syndil wrote: »
    Nice. Kind of puzzled why they went back to the old style power switches though. No mention of 12V trigger in the manual either.

    There were some complaints about the "flimsy" and "cheap feeling" round push button power switches of the 5XXX series amps. There were also a fair amount of power switch mechanical failures in earlier production runs. In addition to this, the power indicator LED in the center of the button was very dim on some units. The power switch LED on one of the GFA-5500's in my home theater system is so dim that I cannot tell whether it is on when looking from my seating position. This is with the room lights on. I can barely tell that it is on with the room lights off.

    Reference:

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  • artsygirl
    artsygirl Posts: 1
    edited August 2012
    The sound is superb. Sound staging, imaging and seperation of instruments is incredible. With 200 watts per channel and plenty of headroom for punch and bursts your not going to find a amp that sounds better for three times as much. I have this paired with a Adcom GFP-715 pre-amp and a pair of Polk Audio RTi12 speakers. Once you listen to music through an amp and pre amp, instead of a regular receiver, you'll never go back.
  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited August 2012
    There were some complaints about the "flimsy" and "cheap feeling" round push button power switches of the 5XXX series amps...Adcom-GFA-5500-power-button-broken

    I'm aware of the problems some people have had with the button, but still it would be interesting to know if this was indeed the reason for the change instead of just speculation. One might also speculate that the return to a mechanical SPST switch indicates that Adcom will be focusing solely on amplifiers from here on, or perhaps it was done just for the "se" model amps as a retro styling element.

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2012
    Syndil wrote: »
    ... it would be interesting to know if this was indeed the reason for the change instead of just speculation. One might also speculate that the return to a mechanical SPST switch indicates that Adcom will be focusing solely on amplifiers from here on, or perhaps it was done just for the "se" model amps as a retro styling element.

    I'm sure others here are interested in reading the answers to these questions. I hope you will soon let us know what Adcom says.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2012
    A flimsy power switch.....never listened to one. :wink:

    Speaking of power switches, why on earth do alot of pre amps, like the Dared, have power switches in the rear of the unit ? Bugs me to no end.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited August 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    , have power switches in the rear of the unit ? Bugs me to no end.

    Shorter path
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    edited August 2012
    I inquired with regard to the Adcom trade-in program that they offer . . . the above referenced 565se can be delivered for $969

    Details:

    GFA-555se $1299.00

    Shipping 49.00

    Subtotal $1348.00

    Less trade-in -275.00

    Less loyalty discount -55.00

    Less shipping discount -49.00

    Total $969.00



    When you place your order you will pay the discounted amount

    of $969 and we will ship the GFA-555se immediately. You will

    then have 30 days to send us your trade-in.


    Does anyone have any review info whatsoever on this new products???????

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  • WayneBob
    WayneBob Posts: 7
    edited August 2012
    I've been an Adcom fan since 1988 when I was pretty young and scored a GFA-555 and preamp and tuner. Still have the amp. Added / upgraded to a GFP-750 pre' and GDA-600 DAC (Ebay items, but still not cheap.) Back in the day (and recently) the original '565 has a bad reputation for electronics failures that cause a large DC bias voltage on the outputs and FRYING speakers. Definitely NOT a recommended used component. Would guess they've fixed that in the new one, but who knows?

    Adcom seems to have really gone downhill. They have been through 3 or 4 ownership changes, moved out to Arizona, barely advertise anymore, seem to focus on multi-channel H.T. amps, rather than the good stereo stuff they made their reputation on, reportedly have reliability problems, have off-shored their manufacturing, been dropped by many dealers (of course many high-end dealers went kaput), etc.

    Oh yeah -- and they emailed me recently and announced the trade in program is being cancelled in the very near future. (no biggie - you can get a lot better money for your used stuff elsewhere.)

    Love my gear, and it's held its value well, and what not, but doubt I'd buy their new stuff.

    If your older Adcom has the rocker switch gone bad, hit up Newark.com and order a 83H5713 for $2.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Shorter path

    Yeah Brock, kinda figured that but really, is putting the power switch on the side at least going to make that much of a difference ?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited August 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah Brock, kinda figured that but really, is putting the power switch on the side at least going to make that much of a difference ?

    In a full size chassis, probably not. In a chassis the size of the Dared, yes. Sometimes I have to believe it's for aesthetics as well. My Keces DAC would look funny with the power switch in the front, maybe.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited August 2012
    Yeah man, I hear ya, just doesn't make sense to me to ask people to reach around hot tubes to turn a pre off. Putting a power switch at least on the sides limits chances of injury/burns from the likes of say.....a wife, who would be pretty darn pissed off if that happened. :smile:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited August 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yeah man, I hear ya, just doesn't make sense to me to ask people to reach around hot tubes to turn a pre off. Putting a power switch at least on the sides limits chances of injury/burns from the likes of say.....a wife, who would be pretty darn pissed off if that happened. :smile:

    Tony, I'd have to have a LOT to drink to burn myself on the hot tubes in the Dared. Not really a possibility unless you are extremely careless. In the case of the Dared it was probably an aesthetic choice not to put it on the side and the IEC and power switch are the in the same component as well as the power fuse. All nice and tidy in the same "block".

    H9
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