Dared sl2000a

dhart86
dhart86 Posts: 1,594
edited August 2012 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Dared sl200a tube pre-amp. Very good condition Asking $325 + ship
Main Rig:
Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


Second Rig:
Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,139
    edited July 2012
    Pictures please and let me know if the remote and extra tubes are included. Thanks!

    Also, what is the condition on the Audiogon scale?
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    Having problems uploading pics,
    I can e-mail pics to anyone who pm's their e-mail address, the pre- does come with remote and stock tubes. 8/10 audiogon scale
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2012
    Wooden remote or keychain?
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited July 2012
    Zombie, I just sent you a PM
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  • WarriorAnt
    WarriorAnt Posts: 9
    edited July 2012
    What was the production year on the Dared sl200a?
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    Wooden remote or keychain?

    wooden remote
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    still available
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited July 2012
    Has someone got a screw loose? Why is this still for sale? Just saying...wish i needed a second one, good price! No affil. Just a fan of that unit!! Glwts.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited July 2012
    If it's available a month from now (doubt it), I wouldn't hesitate to buy this.
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    Has someone got a screw loose? Why is this still for sale? Just saying...wish i needed a second one, good price! No affil. Just a fan of that unit!! Glwts.

    Thanks soundfreak, I have another one of these in the bedroom rig, this is a great little unit.....but I'm sure I'm also biased
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    Aw screw it. I can't watch this thread any more, gotta pull the trigger. I'll take it :) dhart86, please pm your paypal instructions. Sorry Drenis....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2012
    Neil,

    What system will this be used in? Be sure and get a nice old Brimar rectifier. I know you already have some 12at7/Ecc81 variants to use.

    Be very interested to hear your take on it when proper tubes are used.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    Honestly, I'm buying this to see what all the hype is about! Right now I've got the 1C's piped through the Eddie Current and the Krell. Once I move over to the CRS+'s, I'm kind of curious as to how much difference the Krell will make over the modded NAD amp I have. It made a big difference with the 1C's, but I used that NAD with my 2B's and it worked great. So if the NAD sounds as hoped with the CRS+'s, then I may have myself a Krell to sell. In which case, does it really make sense to have a $4000 pre-amp in that mix? Probably not, even though it's also a headphone amp. So I may opt to sell the Eddie Current and use the Dared for 1/10 the price. For now, though, just satisfying curiosity....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited July 2012
    I cant believe the difference in the sound of my rig,I hope you like it as much as I do.Dan
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    If this sounds as good as my system does now, then I will love the thing. FYI, here is the preamp I am using now:

    http://www.eddiecurrent.com/Balancing_Act.html

    If I can get a unit at the price of this Dared that sounds just as good, then I'll be a very happy guy.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • maxchau
    maxchau Posts: 138
    edited July 2012
    Very nice pre...
    Abbas Tube USB-SPDIF Converter with tube clocksAbbas V2 SE Tube DACAltmann Attraction DACNon-Pre passive preampYamaha M2 AmplifierDIY TPA3255 Mono Amps6L6 Williamson amplifier42 SET amp6V6 SET ampMcIntosh XRT18 speakersApogee Centaur MinorPioneer PAX A30 speakers
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2012
    I'm not sure it will compete with something like that, head to head. The Dared is all about finding the tubes that make you happy. It's very receptive to tube rolling and if you need some advice in that area I can help.

    However, just because it won't compete head to head doesn't mean it won't make your system sound great. It may take some trial with some different tubes to find "your" sound you're happy with.

    Nice thing about 12AT7 and variants is they are relatively inexpensive compared to the 12AX7 and 6SN7 tubes.

    Some of my favorites are the long plate tubes but be aware they can tend to be microphonic and I use tube dampers in a couple of cases.

    Telefunken 5965 are superb
    Early Sylvania 5965 (black plates) are superb
    Early Mullards ECC81 (especially from the Mitcham plant) are superb
    Early Amperex BB's ECC81 (Holland) with the D-foil getter are superb.
    1950's Raytheon 6414 Horshoe/black plates are most excellent
    Early Valvo Hamburg TK1 production are superb as well.

    Just to name a few.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    Yup. Seems like a great piece to play around with. I love the Eddie Current, but it's mainly meant to be a headphone amp. I'm mainly using it as a pre. Most of the time I'm using headphones, I'm in my office with another headphone amp.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    So let me explain a bit more about what I'm trying to do here....

    I've got this Eddie Current Balancing Act. It's a really serious piece. I spent more for the Alps pot upgrade in the BA than I just spent on this Dared. I love the thing. It's precisely what I wanted - a high-quality balanced tube preamp and a headphone amp. But it's expensive. And I have KR PX-4's for it.....

    Add to that my Krell, and it's a very nice system that I put together to power the 1C's. I have this NAD that I never ended up selling:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?119095-NYC-area-NAD-2200-amplifier-professionally-serviced-and-modded

    I was quite happy with that amp when I had my 2B's. Once I upgraded to 1C's, though, I wanted more power so I bought the Krell and added the Eddie Current.

    But now that I'm going back to smaller speakers (the ultra-modded CRS+'s) I think I can be quite happy with the NAD again. And the BA is just too high-end of a preamp to pair with the NAD. No disrespect to the NAD, but it'll pair just fine with a much lower budget pre.

    Just food for thought, when I start testing things out I may find that the Krell sounds way better than the NAD with the CRS+'s, in which case I may just leave everything as is and psas this Dared along to someone else.

    But if the NAD and Dared does a great job with the CRS+'s compared with the pricier gear, then I could have some very nice gear for sale.

    So I guess you can say I'm just auditioning the Dared.

    H9, I do recall the NAD having a bit dark of a sound, any suggestions for tubes that'd brighten things up just a little bit?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited July 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    Aw screw it. I can't watch this thread any more, gotta pull the trigger. I'll take it :) dhart86, please pm your paypal instructions. Sorry Drenis....

    No worries man, enjoy. :)

    I can;t grab it now as I have other commitments to members here that come first :cool:
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  • blairfrischx
    blairfrischx Posts: 259
    edited July 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    But if the NAD and Dared does a great job with the CRS+'s compared with the pricier gear, then I could have some very nice gear for sale.

    I'll make an initial offer of $20 for the Balancing Act. :cheesygrin: Feel free to counter-offer, but just know that I have watched a lot of Pawn Stars and can't afford an amp that nice anyway.
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    Neil.........this Dared shipped! PM'd you with the tracking#
    Thanks for your purchase, I hope this piece works out for you
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,349
    edited July 2012
    Congrats!!


    I haven't powered mine up in I wanna say 3-4 months?
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited July 2012
    I used the Dared and Krell with CRS+'s for quite a while and thought it was pretty amazing. Mezmerizing given the right source and a a small to medium space. I preferred old Mullards over Telefunkens in that case to warm the Krell up a bit. I'm betting you're gonna love that combo. Congrats!
    Craig
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    blairfrischx wrote: »
    I'll make an initial offer of $20 for the Balancing Act. :cheesygrin: Feel free to counter-offer, but just know that I have watched a lot of Pawn Stars and can't afford an amp that nice anyway.

    I'll get back to you on that..........
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2012
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    I used the Dared and Krell with CRS+'s for quite a while and thought it was pretty amazing. Mezmerizing given the right source and a a small to medium space. I preferred old Mullards over Telefunkens in that case to warm the Krell up a bit. I'm betting you're gonna love that combo. Congrats!
    Craig

    That would be very impressive. If this thing pairs better with the Krell than the Eddie Current, then this is a hell of a bargain. I guess the first experiment once I get the CRS+'s going is to see how the NAD sounds. If the Krell is killing the NAD I can always swap the Dared around with the Eddie Current and see how it stands up.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • dhart86
    dhart86 Posts: 1,594
    edited July 2012
    sold
    Main Rig:
    Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3


    Second Rig:
    Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded)


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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,349
    edited July 2012
    dhart86 wrote: »
    sold

    At least someone is marking your forsale threads sold.. I thought it was broken or nobody cared about marking threads sold..

    Congrats!!
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited July 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    If this thing pairs better with the Krell than the Eddie Current...

    Well I dunno about THAT. hehe

    One qualifier: the Krell I was using was the older 250a. Dunno how it compares with the newer. I would try to have some tubes heading your way if possible since you will be comparing with glamour gear. I would just repeat the Mullards paired with the Krell, unless yours is not on the bright side as mine was.

    As for pairing with the NAD... although I don't think of the Telefunkens as "brightening", they do have wonderful detail and balance with well defined bass, so I would start there. I think the guy in Spain on eBay, Lamberto, might have more of these and can be trusted. The new Pzvane's seem to me to be on the bright side, but I have only a few hours on them and am probably not a good judge on these. They just didn't grab my attention like the ones above (+ Valvo & Sylvania gold).

    Craig
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »

    Some of my favorites are the long plate tubes but be aware they can tend to be microphonic and I use tube dampers in a couple of cases.

    Telefunken 5965 are superb
    Early Sylvania 5965 (black plates) are superb
    Early Mullards ECC81 (especially from the Mitcham plant) are superb
    Early Amperex BB's ECC81 (Holland) with the D-foil getter are superb.
    1950's Raytheon 6414 Horshoe/black plates are most excellent
    Early Valvo Hamburg TK1 production are superb as well.

    Just to name a few.

    H9

    .......
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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