What about a new Headphones section in the forum

AsSiMiLaTeD
AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
edited July 2012 in The Clubhouse
With growing interest here in headphones and Polk now making several models in a couple lines of headphones, what would you guys think about adding a headphones section to the forum? I know we don't want to have a forum for each specific thing people want to talk about, but seems like there would be enough discussion for this to warrant it's own section, surely it's just as reasonable as having a video games section, right?

Cast your vote. Polk may or may not add it, but at least they'll know where we stand.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited July 2012
    Polk can do what they want. I would spend my time browsing the forums at Head Fi.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2012
    Shizelbs is right about that site, but frankly, not being a headphone fanatic but still interested in cans, I wouldn't mind some discussion in this forum.

    Let's take a different example. We have discussions of vintage Polks here as well as other "vintage" gear! Now, AK has a lot more info about vintage gear but not Polks, yet, we still have a healthy showing and discourse about this here as well. And not everyone is a member of both CP and AK. But might have a passing interest in vintage gear! Heck, people sell vintage all the time here!

    So I think we should just wait to see what everyone else thinks, I vote yes!

    cnh
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited July 2012
    I vote yes. I am a "member" at several other av sites, but this is the only one I spend any real time on. So yes, others sites have more info on almost everything except polk speakers and history, but I learn more here than any of those other sites. YMMV.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    I voted Yes. Not a big deal. I guess the "2-channel" section is the next best fit for headphones, but it's not a perfect fit.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited July 2012
    I voted Yes.

    I spend time at head-fi reading too, but some of the threads can be daunting. They are 500 pages long, and have comments form some users that you wonder what they were smoking. There are some great reviewers and contributors at head-fi, but it takes awhile to find out who those folks are.

    Polk offers a smaller community and the chance to get to know the members; their opinions and tastes. I also value the opinions posted here (by most members) more than I do the majority of posters at Head-fi. I'm also finding that I really enjoy headphone listening. While sound stage might not be as big as when listening to the 2 ch rig, headphones provide a great, intimate, listening experience.

    Scott
    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa
  • gdpeck
    gdpeck Posts: 840
    edited July 2012
    I surprised myself and voted yes. When I first saw this poll, I thought to myself. I already have an online headphone resource of choice called head-fi. But I think that the perspective of members of this forum regarding headphones is valuable and interesting as well. Since it is a rapidly growing market, and it appears that Polk is jumping in with both feet (moreso with the UltraFocus series than the UltraFit series IMO), it makes sense to have a specific forum section.
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2012
    Cans can have some of their own discussion, so why not I guess.
  • woofiepaws
    woofiepaws Posts: 215
    edited July 2012
    I'm getting into cans and find Head Fi way too busy.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    Head Fi is fine, but can be a little daunting for some. To be honest I've always wanted a headphone section here but never saw enough activity and didn't mention it. But within the last year we've seen lots more discussion on headphones AND we've seen Polk release several models, so thought now seems like as good a time as any to bring it up
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited July 2012
    Most of head fi has gotten too busy, and has been filling up with twits.
    There is no way of self regulation, so nonsense seems to be running out of control.
    You really have to read between the lines to figure out whats up. There's a lot
    of knowledge surrounded by a lot of fluff. I mostly just go there to check the for sale section.
    A safe and sane place to talk and review headphones would be most welcome.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2012
    Surprisingly I voted yes, being a novice it would be nice to have a place to ask stupid questions.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,277
    edited July 2012
    Voted yes since i'm building a dedicated headphone rig soon. Actually, I have my Sennheiser HD600's and a Denon DVD2900 already waiting to be mated to the upcoming Woo Audio WA6 SE.

    Head Fi is too cluttered up!
    No excuses!
  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,506
    edited July 2012
    I voted yes also. Trying to weed through Head-hi can be a challenge.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Voted yes since i'm building a dedicated headphone rig soon. Actually, I have my Sennheiser HD600's and a Denon DVD2900 already waiting to be mated to the upcoming Woo Audio WA6 SE.

    Head Fi is too cluttered up!
    If you're planning to run that rig from your Mac check putt amarra hifi and audirvana plus if you haven't already
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited July 2012
    I would love to get deeper in the headphone thing, with people I know, and trust!
    Not to mention there are alot of members here already deep in the hobby.

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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2012
    This would be nice since I've just got into the headphone hobby; I've just purchased a Denon AH-D7000 headphone and a Audio-gd (Kingwa) NFB-10.2 headphone amp/dac.
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    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,201
    edited July 2012
    At this point in time "I don't care" would have been the most accurate vote for me. But...I'd have no problem with adding a headphone section and I might eventually get involved with headphones and find such a section useful. So...I voted "yes"
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 13
    edited July 2012
    86% vote yes, so I think a headphones section is a great idea. Polk engineers are working to have even more in their lineup by Spring. I'll work with Patrick C and KAB to make it a reality. I'm also going to start sending UltraFocus 8000s out to forum members for 2-week demo sessions, all we would ask in return is an honest review of the headphones, which you could post in this future Special Interests section. We plan to start with 3 pairs in circulation.
  • rromeo923
    rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
    edited July 2012
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Voted yes since i'm building a dedicated headphone rig soon. Actually, I have my Sennheiser HD600's and a Denon DVD2900 already waiting to be mated to the upcoming Woo Audio WA6 SE.

    Head Fi is too cluttered up!

    I got a chance to listen to a Woo Audio WA6 w/ some Sennheiser HD650's at Capital Audio Fest last weekend. All I can say is WOW!! I was super impressed.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    it's weird that there are people who DON"T want it. I get why some people wouldn't care and hence I put that option in there, not sure why peole would be opposed to it.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 13
    edited July 2012
    All headphones are go! The new Headphones section under Special Interestes now lives among us!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    Silliness, IMO.

    A seperate headphone forum, really?

    just my .02c

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    pepster wrote: »
    I would love to get deeper in the headphone thing, with people I know, and trust!
    Not to mention there are alot of members here already deep in the hobby.

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    Headfi.org should be the go to if you are seriously interested in headphones and that type of listening. The members here (there are a few) are also members at Headfi.org

    Can't wait for headfi.org to start a forum for SDA's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    Head-fi doesn't sell SDAs. Polk sells headphones and it's now a relevant topic of discussion here, and it appears that Polk agrees.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    Head-fi doesn't sell SDAs. Polk sells headphones and it's now a relevant topic of discussion here, and it appears that Polk agrees.

    Like I said just my .02c. I don't think the volume of headphone sold supports a seperate forum, nor does the almost non-existent discussion about headphones at this time.

    But this is just one person voicing their opinion.

    Let's have an amplifier forum since there are 100 to 1 posts about amplifiers vs. headphones.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited July 2012
    I think it would make for a nice place for all who are interested in head phones. Polk makes some as well as many many others.
    It's a part of our hobby and as I'm not big into them , I would suggest such space be made for it.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited July 2012
    h9, you're just a stick in the mud.

    there is a video game section and a dvd/blu-ray section, so why not headphones??? polk doesn't produce either of the former two, but does the latter. Seems as appropriate as anything else here. I'd certainly prefer it over all the cat pictures.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    While I think the video game section is a waste as well, atleast there is no other place to discuss them, not so with digital or headphones. Furthur splintering of topics can be a negative. I very much dislike places like Audio Karma and Audio Asylum because they have too many narrow topic forums to wade through. Atleast their members keep the posting up on those topics, (since their active memebrship is 10 times what we have here) here after the newness wears off I bet there won't be more than a couple posts a week and then they will all be asking about the same questions.

    As far as being a "stick in the mud", I've seen how these things go and while I don't like to be negative about forum changes, I am just giving my opinion based on what I've seen elsewhere.

    I also don't appreciate being called names, when I am simply voicing my opinion in a very rational and non-confrontational manner.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2012
    There are arguments for and against, simple as that. The point of this thread was to gather opinions and I knew not everyone would agree.

    I don't think we need an amp section, because that falls squarely in the electronics section. The problem with headphones is they don't fall squarely into a section, could be 2 channel, could be speakers or could be electronics. This is evidenced by the fact that there are threads in each of those sections dealing with headphones. Headphones are becoming a larger market each year, and I think last year they outsold speakers, so I figured a dedicated section would work well.

    Thanks for your input everyone
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2012
    Everything falls into the electronics section (technically) and it should be more about what gets the most discussion not about what strictly falls under what sub-catagory. Headphones have been discussed in a few forums, I just don't feel we need a seperate forum for them because they are pretty far off the radar comparatively.

    Why not a surround bar forum or a subwoofer forum? All things Polk makes and sells yet they get discussed in a broader sense under the "Electronics Forum", how do headphones warrant a completely seperate forum but those don't?

    We discussed having an HT forum and decided it would dilute the electronics forum. The above clearly get more hits, questions and interest than headphones.

    Prove me wrong now that Polk sells headphones maybe there will be a big explosion about headphone discussion. Maybe we should have an I-Sonic Forum as well.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!