Finally - Apple did something with iTunes that doesn't suck!!!
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Well it's a whole different world using it on a Windows machine trust me. The basic functionality is the same but it's slow and buggy as hell, it's just not integrated into the system as well, how could it be really?
Apple has said on many occasions that they just don't build software for other hardware very well. They're big believers in the melding of hardware and software at the most basic and foundational level, and it's been my experience that their stuff just generally doesn't run well on hardware that they don't build themselves. iTunes is probably the most glaring example of that, but Quicktime is no fun in the Windows world is no fun either.
It's unfortunate though. IMO Apple has really done themselves a disservice by not providing a better iTunes experience on the Windows platform. Realistically, the iPod or iPhone is very likely going to be many people's first interaction with Apple, and while obviously millions of people love the product I'd bet a good portion of them are frustrated with iTunes. So for those people, their first experience with Apple is going to carry with it frustration.
If people fully buy into the Apple ecosystem then everything just works well together and they're generally happy, but when your number 1 selling product carries with it a frustration factor caused really only by iTunes, it just seems like a dumb way to potentially lose customers or precent them from buying into your way of doing things. -
I hardly use iTunes. I only use it to load music to my iPod Touch and update software, but that's it.Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
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my first computer was an Apple Macintosh Quadra 650 AV - should have invested that 2000 dollars in 10 dollar a share apple stock.
I effin hate iTunes - period s t o p hands down. and the iTunes store has never seen my credit card number. But you have to give them credit where credit is due (remember the original macbook that looked like a neon toilet seat?).
There are always better alternatives.
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AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »Well it's a whole different world using it on a Windows machine trust me. The basic functionality is the same but it's slow and buggy as hell, it's just not integrated into the system as well, how could it be really?
Apple has said on many occasions that they just don't build software for other hardware very well. They're big believers in the melding of hardware and software at the most basic and foundational level, and it's been my experience that their stuff just generally doesn't run well on hardware that they don't build themselves. iTunes is probably the most glaring example of that, but Quicktime is no fun in the Windows world is no fun either.
It's unfortunate though. IMO Apple has really done themselves a disservice by not providing a better iTunes experience on the Windows platform. Realistically, the iPod or iPhone is very likely going to be many people's first interaction with Apple, and while obviously millions of people love the product I'd bet a good portion of them are frustrated with iTunes. So for those people, their first experience with Apple is going to carry with it frustration.
If people fully buy into the Apple ecosystem then everything just works well together and they're generally happy, but when your number 1 selling product carries with it a frustration factor caused really only by iTunes, it just seems like a dumb way to potentially lose customers or precent them from buying into your way of doing things.
Great post.
IMO, I think Apple is running out of ideas with Tim Cook. -
Why? Because he's been in charge a whopping 10 months and hasn't come out with the next greatest thing yet?Great post.
IMO, I think Apple is running out of ideas with Tim Cook.
Gimme a break.... -
AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »Why? Because he's been in charge a whopping 10 months and hasn't come out with the next greatest thing yet?
Gimme a break....
You can assume whatever you like.
Don't put words in my mouth.
FWIW, I don't dislike Apple in any way that would prevent me from owning products from that company. People go with what they want and what works for them with the budget they have. -
AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »Why? Because he's been in charge a whopping 10 months and hasn't come out with the next greatest thing yet?
Gimme a break....
Exactely! Apple, along with many other tech companies, has a research and development roadmap in place for products to come out 2-3 years down the line, at least. You think Intel only has ideas in the works for processors to come out in the next year only? These guys are toying with ideas for products that we'll see years from now.
Funny how people hate on companies for their success. Microsoft had top honors for many years, yet those people that hated on them still bought PC's. Apple is taking top honors now mainly due to their success and popularity of products. People like and enjoy their products, then all of a sudden those people are "drinking the koolaid." Gamers hate all over the Mac simply due to the lack of games for it. Having never touched a Mac, they'll proclaim..."Macs suck and OSX sucks!!!" Game developers don't develop for the Mac platform, so that makes OSX a terrible OS? How many other audio forums out there do you think laugh and hate on us for "drinking the Polk Audio koolaid" due to our passion for Polk products? They're out there, trust me!No excuses! -
I never assumed you didn't like Apple, and I didn't put words in your mouth. You came right out and said it. My point was that its only been 10 months that he's been in charge. It's not like they come out with a brand new 'big thing' every year. They've been around for 35 years and have come up with basically 4 'big ideas'; the personal computer, iPod, iPhone, iPad (and each of those one could argue they didn't 'invent', they just executed the concept really well and brought them to the masses).
The iPad came out only a couple years ago, they're not even due for another 'big idea' for a few more years. I don't know if they'll find another hit or not, and you're certainly welcome to believe they won't and can attribute that to Cook if you like, my point was just that it seems a BIT early to draw that conclusion. -
Yep, I know a group of guys that's already working on tech that will render SSD tech obsolete, how crazy is that?Strong Bad wrote: »Exactely! Apple, along with many other tech companies, has a research and development roadmap in place for products to come out 2-3 years down the line, at least. You think Intel only has ideas in the works for processors to come out in the next year only? These guys are toying with ideas for products that we'll see years from now. -
Don't confuse this for me saying that the Mac is a good gaming platform because that's just absurd, but you're starting to see more developers build games for Mac. Diablo 3 runs beautifully and looks awesome on the 27" iMac.Strong Bad wrote: »Gamers hate all over the Mac simply due to the lack of games for it. Having never touched a Mac, they'll proclaim..."Macs suck and OSX sucks!!!" Game developers don't develop for the Mac platform, so that makes OSX a terrible OS? -
AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »I never assumed you didn't like Apple, and I didn't put words in your mouth. You came right out and said it. My point was that its only been 10 months that he's been in charge. It's not like they come out with a brand new 'big thing' every year. They've been around for 35 years and have come up with basically 4 'big ideas'; the personal computer, iPod, iPhone, iPad (and each of those one could argue they didn't 'invent', they just executed the concept really well and brought them to the masses).
The iPad came out only a couple years ago, they're not even due for another 'big idea' for a few more years. I don't know if they'll find another hit or not, and you're certainly welcome to believe they won't and can attribute that to Cook if you like, my point was just that it seems a BIT early to draw that conclusion.
Fair enough. I guess I lost some faith when Steve passed on. I want to see ongoing improvements with time and continued success. But I worry if Apple can truly survive without Steve. That's all. -
AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »Found it. The funny thing is this is the only thing I still use Windows for (running inside Parallels on the Mac). I still don't like the way iTunes or any other software tags my music, so I still use this method. Tag&Rename and dbPowerAmp are Windows only software, there may be alternatives on OSX but I like these two so I just run them inside Windows.
My process is simple:
1 - I rip with dbPowerAmp to lossless
2 - I put my music into folders and tag via the process described in the link - http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?115652-Consistent-tagging-of-digital-music-is-impossible!&p=1529852&viewfull=1#post1529852
3 - Import into iTunes library
I really should do some research and see if there are alternatives on the OSX platform because at this point these two programs are the only reason I have Parallels installed and run Windows. Although I'll never trust iTunes to rip my CDs...
Thanks. I've got a question I'm not sure if you'll know the answer to. If you put db PowerAmp on an external hard drive, would you be able to use it on any computer that it's plugged into?
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The answer to that question is very likely No. There are exceptions, but in the Windows world applications install files all over the hard drive and in system folders and such, and applications typically need those files to run properly. Obviously that wouldn't work in your case. That doesn't even take into account the licensing terms, which I don't know off hand, but those may 'prevent' you from doing that as well.
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Fair enough. I guess I lost some faith when Steve passed on. I want to see ongoing improvements with time and continued success. But I worry if Apple can truly survive without Steve. That's all.
Apple will survive. They survived without Steve for many years before he came back. Microsoft has survived without Bill. The question is how long will they survive. I don't think either of these companies are like IBM. It's only a matter of time before another comes along and changes the game completely and our great grandkids are talking about "back in the day when Microsoft and Apple were still around." -
wayne3burk wrote: »(remember the original macbook that looked like a neon toilet seat?).
That was the iBook which eventually became the macbook. It was the machine that help usher in the wireless age.
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