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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited June 2012
    mantis wrote: »
    Next time for sure.

    So your not going with it next time you need to refinish stuff mainly because you have an existing structure, correct? I ask because my thoughts were when I finally get a house if it doesnt have a deck, go composite, and if it does, wait a couple years and then go composite as well.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 631
    edited June 2012
    Dan - I agree deck maintenance and staining sucks big time! Last summer I started to rehab our rotting deck and got so frustrated that I ended up taking the whole thing out. We had formed and stained concrete put in instead. Turned out very nice and now just have some occasional light power washing to do. And now that we're on ground level, we're not on display up on a stage to all the neighbors when we're out on the deck.....
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  • codyc1ark
    codyc1ark Posts: 2,532
    edited June 2012
    Dan, your deck is larger than mine. I've always wondered if my deck would look larger if I'd trim the trees surrounding it.

    Very nice deck. :eek:
  • davidk0512
    davidk0512 Posts: 157
    edited June 2012
    Lasareath wrote: »
    My first deck at this house may be coming at the end of the summer. When I do it I'm gonna get one of these:

    http://www.kregtool.com/Deck-Jig-Prodview.html

    I bought a Kreg pocket hole jig for a specific project a few years ago and have since used it several times for other things that needed attention. It's a great jig for strong professional looking joints, I don't think you can go wrong with any of their jigs.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited June 2012
    So your not going with it next time you need to refinish stuff mainly because you have an existing structure, correct? I ask because my thoughts were when I finally get a house if it doesnt have a deck, go composite, and if it does, wait a couple years and then go composite as well.
    I had my deck built back in 2007 I believe was the correct year. I have stained it a few times and it doesn't hold up as said on the labels. Before I had my deck built I was checking out Trek decks and really thought this was a good way to go. I was talked out of it and I think that was a mistake on my behalf. My deck was getting crappy but it was still in structurally good shape. So I found the Restore product and my deck is awesome again.
    I will not be staining , refinishing it ever again. Once this wears out , I will have it rebuilt with Trek. I know some people how have em now and they have told me nothing but good things. I will go Trek composite flooring and rails as my frame is all pressure treated and in like brand new shape. I will probably treat the frame or better put have the builder do it for me when that time comes.
    I hated staining my deck every time including this time , but the difference this time is it looks and feels great.
    It was a cheaper alternative to going Trek this time. But Next time money is no object.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited June 2012
    mufsoman wrote: »
    Dan - I agree deck maintenance and staining sucks big time! Last summer I started to rehab our rotting deck and got so frustrated that I ended up taking the whole thing out. We had formed and stained concrete put in instead. Turned out very nice and now just have some occasional light power washing to do. And now that we're on ground level, we're not on display up on a stage to all the neighbors when we're out on the deck.....
    Yeah I feel that way sometimes when the neighbors are out. At least I get along with all of them and they are all very cool very good people but I still would like some privacy from time to time. A patio sounds really nice and I thought about one before we built the deck. What stopped me was Kung Fu. I wanted another place to go and work out and the deck was suppose to serve double duty. Since my neighbors are out in their back yards so much , I decided not to train on the deck as much as I wanted to due to them constantly asking questions , watching and really disturbing my work outs out of curiosity.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited June 2012
    codyc1ark wrote: »
    Dan, your deck is larger than mine. I've always wondered if my deck would look larger if I'd trim the trees surrounding it.

    Very nice deck. :eek:
    Maybe , maybe not , Thanks man,
    Dan
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  • mudwrx
    mudwrx Posts: 367
    edited June 2012
    So we just had a composite deck put on the back of the house just off the kitchen. We were limited in the size for now due to a number of factors, but we will add to it in the years to come. We used Varanda composite with the composite/plastic railings and posts. We really like the looks of it and the relatively low maintenance will be nice.

    I will be adding the lattice work later and then doing some landscaping around it after that.

    A few notes on the pictures, you will see the framing being built, then a few pictures of the progress and final work. Notice there are no screws or nails showing, we used undermounted clips. Looks very clean and it is very solid. For the white composite areas we used white hardware as well (screws). Also, we attached screens to the underneath to prevent bugs and such from getting through from the bottom.

    I'll try to attach the finished pictures after the lattice work goes up.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited June 2012
    Very nice , looks great.
    Dan
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,755
    edited April 2013
    Hey Dan-

    Curious how the product held up over the winter. I've GOT to do something with my deck this year...
  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
    edited April 2013
    wow, you guys are luck to have deck. We don't have one. I just miss that, but here in cali where we live, not many houses with deck. So don't have choice, but good job Mantis.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited April 2013
    Hey Dan-

    Curious how the product held up over the winter. I've GOT to do something with my deck this year...
    Held up great , looks brand new. I'm very happy with it. I suggest if your going to refinish your deck , it's a bit more expensive then stain but well worth it.
    Dan
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    edited April 2013
    jumpindick wrote: »
    wow, you guys are luck to have deck. We don't have one. I just miss that, but here in cali where we live, not many houses with deck. So don't have choice, but good job Mantis.
    I'd gladly trade my deck to move out to CA. I sent some time out there in LA and Beverly Hills and really enjoyed my time there. I'm sure I could find work in my trade. Just gotta convince the wife that it's the right place to be.
    Dan
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,040
    edited April 2013
    If we ever replace our large front deck we'll probably spend the extra$$ and go composite. 3 years ago we installed a decent sized deck on the rear of our house and didn't have the $$ to go composite so it's standard 2X6 PT boards. Based on some reviews we used a epoxy/water based stain "Defy" in a walnut color. This deck gets sun until mid afternoon. Stain has held up better than any other we have used in the past, but then again it should based on the cost...I think it was like $45/gallon. Probably could get another year or two out of it but the Mrs wants it to look new again so it will be a project soon. Plan to use the deck retore stuff to clean and brighten the wood prior to restain.
    Looking back I wish we had put in a stone tile patio...don't have to stain wood every 4 years or so, but a deck is nice!
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2013
    Great look on the refinish. My only advice for the composite decking which may also apply to the finish you just used Dan is it might scratch. It does not take dragging chairs and tables across it as well as real wood in my experience.
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,755
    edited April 2013
    mantis wrote: »
    Held up great , looks brand new. I'm very happy with it. I suggest if your going to refinish your deck , it's a bit more expensive then stain but well worth it.

    Good to hear. I'd love to replace all mine with composite but I've got over 800sf of deck and that would be spendy, plus the wood itself (5/4 cedar) is in good shape. It's just the finish that's shot.
  • chris23120
    chris23120 Posts: 95
    edited April 2013
    This is an interesting Idea. I have about 850sqft of decking that I have powerwashed/stained every year for the last 8. I also have 400' of wood fence that I do at the same time. It costs me 18hrs of my time, and $500 in stain/tyvec suit, etc) The quotes I got were all in the $2000-$3000 range so at this point I could have just rebuilt the deck/fence every 5 years... I'm getting ready to do it again once the pollen dies down. I may have to investigate this product further, if I could get 2-3 years... Although I am picky and like things shiny and new.. How is the scratch resistance?
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  • chris23120
    chris23120 Posts: 95
    edited April 2013
    mudwrx wrote: »
    So we just had a composite deck put on the back of the house just off the kitchen. We were limited in the size for now due to a number of factors, but we will add to it in the years to come. We used Varanda composite with the composite/plastic railings and posts. We really like the looks of it and the relatively low maintenance will be nice.

    I will be adding the lattice work later and then doing some landscaping around it after that.

    A few notes on the pictures, you will see the framing being built, then a few pictures of the progress and final work. Notice there are no screws or nails showing, we used undermounted clips. Looks very clean and it is very solid. For the white composite areas we used white hardware as well (screws). Also, we attached screens to the underneath to prevent bugs and such from getting through from the bottom.

    I'll try to attach the finished pictures after the lattice work goes up.

    How hot does this get in direct sun. I have a pool and lots of people running in and out of the house, so if the composite stays cooler than stained wood that would be a major plus...
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2013
    Saw this article, thought of this thread:
    http://www.lonny.com/photos/Deck/-Ypyr8oxzox
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