2.3TL's I'm trying to get and an amp ?
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I helped a buddy transport a pair of 1.2tls. We removed the PR and stuffed pillows into the cab (CAREFULLY) so the drivers wouldn't shift during transport.
I usually take the drivers out and place them in a box with a pillow or bubble wrap under them to keep them from banging around. -
I transported my TL's on their backs in a minivan. They were wrapped with nice soft material. However, when I bought them, I never knew about the magnet shifting issue yet until I did more research. All my drivers were fine for the 40 minute trip home.
However, they will never travel again unless the drivers have been modded to prevent anything from occurring. -
I transported my father's 1.2TLs in the back of a truck, 5 hour trip from CT to NY in their original boxes. They fit perfectly with no room to spare so they were not able to move around. If yours look like they could wiggle during the trip, I would suggest using pillows somehow.
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Mr. Bubbles wrote: »I wouldn't do that to you as much as I would like to have them. I do already have 2A's, SRS, and 1.2TL's, I just sold my 1C's, so i have plenty to enjoy. I believe the 3.1's and 2.3's to probably be the better sounding of the SRS models. ( though this is just from theory and not actual A/B comparison.)
But dude, if it doesn't work for you for any reason, please send me a PM so I can get a shot at them.
Good luck.[/QUOT
There's a pair on ebay in Ft. Lauderdale with a BIN of $700.00 ! Too far away for me ! -
I transported mine in the back of my 6ft pickup with heavy quilt underneath, pillows at rear of bed and against tailgate and they didn't move an inch. I got my dynamat at Best Buy in a box for 30.00 and I still have plenty left over. And if anyone is looking for 2.3s and are near the Boston area, I can post a link (not mine).
Oh and I am pulling for you to get these TNHNDYMAN
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This stuff about magnets shifting is really overblown. I've have vintage Polk speakers and drivers shipped all over the country, not once has there been a magnet issue.
Anyway, the best way to transport them is with the drivers in the cabinets and the speakers on their backs.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I saw those. That's a little too far for me as well. I don't mind driving 4-5 hours one way for an awesome deal on something like that but over that is a little much unless it's a once in a lifetime find like the SRT's or DCM time Window 7's, or something with a similar rarity. That's looks like a pretty good deal for someone though, could prob get it for the starter bid of $599. Maybe less if you were local and could meet the seller in person.Mr. Bubbles wrote: »I wouldn't do that to you as much as I would like to have them. I do already have 2A's, SRS, and 1.2TL's, I just sold my 1C's, so i have plenty to enjoy. I believe the 3.1's and 2.3's to probably be the better sounding of the SRS models. ( though this is just from theory and not actual A/B comparison.)
But dude, if it doesn't work for you for any reason, please send me a PM so I can get a shot at them.
Good luck.[/QUOT
There's a pair on ebay in Ft. Lauderdale with a BIN of $700.00 ! Too far away for me !If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
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^ I appreciate that, and like I said if something comes up I will put you in contact with her.
I discussed this purchase with my wife in more detail last night and we are in agreement to go get them. I am going to extend a line of credit on a note we already have and though not ideal it is a short term deal. We have some money coming from my mother in laws life insurance policy (she passed May 17th) as well as a decent tax refund due within the month so it will be paid back quickly. I also will be more pro active on selling more of the vintage gear I have acquire over the last couple of years. So now it's time to contact the seller and make arrangements to set up her home theater and find a truck to move these to their new home. Fingers crossed.
Thinking of how to safely transport- I think I'm going to remove and label the drivers and pack them in bubble wrap in a storage tote and move them in the car. I'm concerned about magnet shift. I need to search the threads for the best way to JB Weld the drivers and do that after getting them home.
Where is the best source for dynamat and how much do you think I would need for the 12 MW's and 2 Pass Rads?
I think the best price for Dynamat Xtreme right now is on eBay - about $25 for the Wedge Pak (4 sq. ft.) shipped.
The same thing at caraudiodeals.com is about $38 (to my zip code).
I think this is enough for your speakers - but do check with some of the guys who've done it on some of the SDA big boys. -
This stuff about magnets shifting is really overblown. I've have vintage Polk speakers and drivers shipped all over the country, not once has there been a magnet issue.
Anyway, the best way to transport them is with the drivers in the cabinets and the speakers on their backs.
F1- you are the expert in these matters but it's really for peace of mind and maybe making it easier to get the cabinets out of the house and to the truck. Also I have plenty of MW6500's in my 10's and 7's but if one of these were to be fouled up, I don't have a spare on hand.
On another note: As far as setup goes I am pretty much stuck with what I have as far as placement goes. They will sit where the 10's are now. The cabinet is 5' wide. The room is roughtly 26.5' X 8' with a 3' X16' Hallway and 7' X 12' Kitchen off of it. It'll have to do for now but the speakers won't have a true wall behind them. The right one has at least half of it open to the hallway and the left one will have the stove and kitchen behind it. What are your thoughts?
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Also thanks for the links to the dynamat extreme. I'll probably go ahead and order some tonight.2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.
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That will be a terrible setup for the dimensional effect ans my guess would be that bass will probably lack (this is just a guess). But as i have said in previous posts, even in a bad setup they still sound good. You will definitely want to work on rearranging moving to a different room or even adding on at some point (that is where I am right now; adding on is the only way for me to get mine better in my current home). But you will also enjoy them tremendously in the mean time.If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
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F1- you are the expert in these matters but it's really for peace of mind and maybe making it easier to get the cabinets out of the house and to the truck.
The weight of the drivers is not really going to make a difference. It is safer, much safer to transport the speakers with the drivers in place with the speakers on their backs. This restricts the driver movement.On another note: As far as setup goes I am pretty much stuck with what I have as far as placement goes. They will sit where the 10's are now. The cabinet is 5' wide. The room is roughtly 26.5' X 8' with a 3' X16' Hallway and 7' X 12' Kitchen off of it. It'll have to do for now but the speakers won't have a true wall behind them. The right one has at least half of it open to the hallway and the left one will have the stove and kitchen behind it. What are your thoughts?
Yeah, that's far from ideal. The bass response will suffer greatly.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Will the right one not gobble up the hallway? One vote for the dining room.
It will cover about 1/2 the hallway, but Danica's play kitchen already does anyways. I'm more worried about grease from the stove and coming up with someway to create a partition of some sort on that side. The dining room would be about the same width, but it would block my access to the back deck. The couch does not fit on the wall the entertainment center is on now so I can't mirror image flip that way.
All in all I know its not ideal but it is what I have to work with. The home we have now is under $50K for payoff and my mortgae is less than what a 2br rental would be so it has it's perks:biggrin: Down the road in a couple years I'm sure we will be looking for another home with a basement for storage and then my options will be better.2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
As you are aware, get them now while the gettings good :biggrin:.
You squashed my suggestion of flipping the couch onto the small wall of course lol. That wall looks pretty darned near perfect...
So maybe sell the couch to get one that does fit..... :razz:"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
As far as hauling, I brought my 2.3TLs from Nashville to Augusta in the bed of a pickup. Used two sleeping bags over them on top of a full size air mattress. Just pad them and place on their backs. Drive with respect. You'll be fine. The greatest risk is in handling them.>
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Talked to the seller tonight and we are shooting for this wkend. She even offered to help move them to my place in her Tahoe so that would be a major plus. Fingers crossed.
I will succumb to the wisdom of the Polkie experts and leave the drivers in the cabs and do the jb weld after delivery. Can someone please confirm that my 2 possible amps (Adcom 5400 and Rotel 981) are common ground. Also did I read correctly when someone stated that common ground is NOT an issue with the TL's? I have a multi meter and could measure across the negative terminals, but I don't know what setting to use and or what value to be looking for or if the amp needs to be on.
On another note, what is the policy on if I wanted to post a for sale ad w/ a link to my ad on CL? It's an extensive list and don't want to rehash everything. If that's against the rules then I'll redo it.2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
Also did I read correctly when someone stated that common ground is NOT an issue with the TL's?
Oh, it's an issue alright. The way that comment was worded only made it seem that it isn't. What they meant was that one can use an isolation transformer when using non-common ground amps.I have a multi meter and could measure across the negative terminals, but I don't know what setting to use and or what value to be looking for or if the amp needs to be on.
Ohms. Zero or damn close to it.On another note, what is the policy on if I wanted to post a for sale ad w/ a link to my ad on CL? It's an extensive list and don't want to rehash everything. If that's against the rules then I'll redo it.
No link's to ad's on other sites.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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^ Thanks for the clarity F1-
I'll test them tomorrow, but my understanding is that most amps are common ground and if one wanted to use mono blocks then that's where the A1 transformer device comes into play. The adcom is my worry because I've read too many threads and info is starting to overwhelm my brain. I know alot of the 555 and 545 were used by many to power the SDA's but I think I recall some problems w/ the 4 digit series not being common ground (Adcom 5802 maybe).
Ok as to the ad I think I'll follow Dskip's advice and just copy the pertinent text and post pics as needed and answer most ?'s as when/if there is any interest. Pricing will be negotiable via PM but for now I'll just knock 25% off as the Polkie price.2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
Re: testing for common ground, I believe the amp needs to be off when you do this. Put one probe on one negative speaker terminal and the other probe on the other one.
As F1 says the reading should be zero or close to it."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer -
You should absolutely get the speakers. Good deal, and you can always upgrade your amp later on. As others have said, I would be interested in the amp too much. Worry about the speakers, and buy them. Let us know when your mission is accomplished.:biggrin:
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I have pics, pinch me it did happen:biggrin: Got to make some jumper wires and then hook up to the AVR for now. Can't wait to play them tomorrow. Wow these things are heavy.2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
I hate you !:cheesygrin: JK, enjoy em !!!!
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Congrats Travis, they look to be in nice shape.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I have pics, pinch me it did happen:biggrin: Got to make some jumper wires and then hook up to the AVR for now. Can't wait to play them tomorrow. Wow these things are heavy.
Excellent! I am happy for you Travis! Now the fun begins! Wait until you hear these speakers! I would pull them out in front of the TV cabinet about 3 inches if possible however. After you listen to them let us know what you think. Then wait until you modify them. Speaking of which make sure you put your name in the "Waiting List for Larry's Rings" thread so Larry knows you want some. Trust me, you DO want some. Looking forward to your impressions after you listen.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
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My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
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Congrats!! Enjoy!!If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!
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Reppin' the polk t-shirt huh? :razz:
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Congrats, Enjoy. They look to be in great shape. And let us know how they sound. Oh and welcome to the 2.3tl club SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
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Congrats, Travis!"Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
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Reppin' the polk t-shirt huh? :razz:
Speakers looks mint. Enjoy!
I figured it was appropriate. Thanks Doro.
It's been a fun morning! Now back to work...2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
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Congrats, nice pair of speakers.
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