WTB Reel To Reel Pre recorded music

snow
snow Posts: 4,337
edited August 2012 in Wanted (WTB) Classifieds
As the title says if anyone has pre recorded reel to reel music they want to sell please respond in this thread.



REGARDS SNOW
Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    do you mean factory pre-recorded, or might you be interested in "dubbed" tapes?
    If the latter... I'd be happy to put something together for you gratis - you choose format, speed, and reel size (e.g., quarter-track stereo, 7-1/2 ips, 7"). Actually, come to think of it, I might not be able to donate a 10-1/2" tape... but then again, I do have a few "big" reels o'tape "in stock". PM me if this might be intriguing to you.

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    The "dubbee" doesn't have to be analog... e.g., how about a nice "needle drop" of the [/I]original, truly out-there, mix of the Grateful Dead's psych opus aoxomoxoa? :-p

    If the former, I've got a pretty motley collection of "store-bought" reels :-P
    Lemme know if you want me to "check stock".
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    Hi Mark. I recently bought a Teac-X2000R reel to reel for the second time, my first one I traded for some speakers without listening to it, but this time i'm set for speakers for now at least so I have decided I wanted to listen to it and just see if it is something I want to keep before I trade or sell it, so anything you may have factory recorded or otherwise would be a start, as far as recording speed format etc goes whatever produces the best sound quality is what I want. If this deck will rival the sound of CD's or better then it is something I will keep but the only way to discover this is to listen.

    I also bought several TT's the last few months and I think I have found a keeper there and am anxiously awaiting George's next vinyl offering, hopefully I wont be on his bozo list :cheesygrin:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    Ahhh-- I think I am poised to be an enabler! :-) I will record a coupla needle drops (as the young hipsters like to say) to a decent blank on either the TASCAM (which is a four-track machine and not, technically quarter-track, so there could be some alignment... pecularities) or, most likely, the Pioneer RT-909. I've actually never recorded anything with the 909, come to think of it.

    The ReVox (for which the one in the photo above served as an organ donor) is a half-track machine... that won't help much! :-p

    I do have a TEAC given to me by a friend here in town.. but I've never even turned it on...

    I'll PM ye anon...
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Ahhh-- I think I am poised to be an enabler! :-) I will record a coupla needle drops (as the young hipsters like to say) to a decent blank on either the TASCAM (which is a four-track machine and not, technically quarter-track, so there could be some alignment... pecularities) or, most likely, the Pioneer RT-909. I've actually never recorded anything with the 909, come to think of it.

    The ReVox (for which the one in the photo above served as an organ donor) is a half-track machine... that won't help much! :-p

    I do have a TEAC given to me by a friend here in town.. but I've never even turned it on...

    I'll PM ye anon...
    Thanks it is much appreciated, if you happen to have a Teac-1003B take up reel black in color that you want to part with let me know also.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    No sexy tape reels here :-( (except for one single 10-1/2" Pioneer reel for the RT-909, but that won't help...)
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,337
    edited June 2012
    Greetings Snow!

    Welcome back your X-2000! This is the one that Ken Swauger tuned up for me. He also replace my lights with blue LEDs. Take a look:

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    Carl

  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    WOW!! What a beautiful example, superb wood case too. How does it compare to vinyl or CD's in playback?



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    holy Moses! I didn't realize it was the big one - I now hereby recant my shameless deck name-dropping above! :-P

    Your "new" one's not a half-track machine, is it, Snow?
  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited June 2012
    I just picked up a Akai 4000DS for cheap that appears to be fully functional but I have no tapes to test it on. If you can part with another I'd be happy to pay for it and shipping. The only format in the last 50 years I'm missing now is 8 track and I think I can live without it, but you never know......
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    you're in Canada :-O
    (in all seriousness, I'll PM ye and we can discuss international shipping...)

    meanwhile, a dump-find 4000DS (I think) passed through here a while back (dump find) - it sort of worked...

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    holy Moses! I didn't realize it was the big one - I now hereby recant my shameless deck name-dropping above! :-P

    Your "new" one's not a half-track machine, is it, Snow?
    Well it is one of the bigger ones but not the most sought after that goes to the
    1000M and 2000M models they are half track machines, unfortunately this is only a 1/4 track machine
    .



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    I don't know the TEAC/TASCAM line (especially the later ones) all that well - they made so many different models! :-(

    It is a beautiful and no doubt capable deck; I'll try to make a tape for it to do it justice.
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I don't know the TEAC/TASCAM line (especially the later ones) all that well - they made so many different models! :-(

    It is a beautiful and no doubt capable deck; I'll try to make a tape for it to do it justice.
    Well you know far more than I do about Reel to Reels in general and certainly it would take an expert to keep track of the various models made by any of the big companys offerings. From what I have read which isn't much the Revox you have is supposed to sound much better than this Teac does.

    I appreciate you doing this and don't be about shy charging whatever you want for your work.


    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    playing with hifi is never (well.. rarely) work for a hamfisted amateur like me...
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,337
    edited June 2012
    Greetings Snow!

    When I record music onto tape from vinyl, it sounds very close to the source. Pre-recorded material can vary widely. It all depends on the mastering. Theoretically, it should sound very close to the original source as the wave form is simiiar. Check the website for "The Tape Project". They are releasing pre-recorded 10" reels in half track. I heard one at the Capital Audio Fest last year and it sounded great.

    I do have some pre-recorded 71/2 ips tapes that sound pretty good. The 3 3/4 ips tapes are not so good. Sometimes, you can find some nice owner recorded 10" reels on eBay that have some great music. I bought a couple that I was going to record, instead I just listened to the mix the original owner made. I assume they were vinyl transfers. A lot of audiophiles use to record mix tracks on R2R or the entire lp and listen to the tape instead of the lp.

    Congrats on the X-2000 and enjoy!

    BTW, did anyone notice in the movie "The Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" the scene where Daniel Craig is about to be butchered the killer turns on a black R2R? I think it is an X-2000
    Carl

  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,337
    edited June 2012
    BTW, the wood case that I have was a revaneer and refinish that I did with the guidance of our own F1Nut, the master of all things wood.

    I also have a black Teac 10" reel that came with the machine. This was one of my best ever garage sale finds. It cost me $100 and included the black Teac 10" reel, a 7" reel, some microphones and some blank tape, all the original manuals but no box.
    Carl

  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    schwarcw wrote: »
    Greetings Snow!

    When I record music onto tape from vinyl, it sounds very close to the source. Pre-recorded material can vary widely. It all depends on the mastering. Theoretically, it should sound very close to the original source as the wave form is simiiar. Check the website for "The Tape Project". They are releasing pre-recorded 10" reels in half track. I heard one at the Capital Audio Fest last year and it sounded great.

    I do have some pre-recorded 71/2 ips tapes that sound pretty good. The 3 3/4 ips tapes are not so good. Sometimes, you can find some nice owner recorded 10" reels on eBay that have some great music. I bought a couple that I was going to record, instead I just listened to the mix the original owner made. I assume they were vinyl transfers. A lot of audiophiles use to record mix tracks on R2R or the entire lp and listen to the tape instead of the lp.

    Congrats on the X-2000 and enjoy!

    BTW, did anyone notice in the movie "The Girl with the Dragon Tatoo" the scene where Daniel Craig is about to be butchered the killer turns on a black R2R? I think it is an X-2000
    Thanks Carl.
    schwarcw wrote: »
    BTW, the wood case that I have was a revaneer and refinish that I did with the guidance of our own F1Nut, the master of all things wood.

    I also have a black Teac 10" reel that came with the machine. This was one of my best ever garage sale finds. It cost me $100 and included the black Teac 10" reel, a 7" reel, some microphones and some blank tape, all the original manuals but no box.
    Wow fantastic deal at $100.00 hell just the black reel sells for that these days. Looks like Jesse hooked you up knowledge wise because that is beautiful, great job.Well what I think i'm going to do is try to record a few albums from vinyl and a few from CD and see if they sound better worse or the same, if I can get the clarity of the CD but with a more analog sound if that makes sense, then I may just do a lot of recording in the future. Most of the factory pre recorded music which is virtually all 7' reels are very pricey compared to the same albums on CD it wouldndt make much sense to buy them if they didn't sound better than their CD counterparts and if it sounds the same as the CD then no reason to bother trying to record from a CD to the tape either.

    I will just have to play around and see if this is something that I will embrace, I know I am starting to like what I have been hearing from vinyl lately, it is nice to have the option of listening to all different formats but I don't really want to have thousands tied up in each format music wise which is very easy to do so once I figure out which two formats will be the keepers I will go that route as it is now I have everything but a laser disc setup :mrgreen:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,337
    edited June 2012
    Thanks for all the kind words Snow. You will find recording music onto tape from CD will take a little of the edge off of some music giving it a smoother sound. Experiment and have some fun!

    Jesse had some great advice on my wood case finishing, here are some more pics of the unit in process.

    Regards,

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    Carl

  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited June 2012
    Snow,

    I can tell you that you will absolutely not be disappointed with the quality of audio produced at 7 1/2ips from the X-2000R deck. I own one and have a prerecorded copy of my favorite album by YES of "Tales From Topographic Oceans" recorded at 7 1/2 ips and the audio is phenominal. In most ways it will better CD's. That is unless you have a very very very high end and expensive transport and DAC or all in one CD player. This deck is considered the pinacle of consumer reel-to-reel deck produced by Teac or pretty much any other manufacturer. It was one of the last consumer decks produced as well. If you record your own 7.5 ips reels you will love the sound produced by this deck; that is both the recorded audio and playback audio. My brother is a reel to reel expert and owns many decks. I have heard many decks and this is absolutely one of the best I've heard.

    That said, it's up to you what you think. All I can say is buy some reels and/or record your own and listen for yourself. I think you will be impressed with what you hear. Please let us know what you think.

    Greg
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    headrott wrote: »
    Snow,

    I can tell you that you will absolutely not be disappointed with the quality of audio produced at 7 1/2ips from the X-2000R deck. I own one and have a prerecorded copy of my favorite album by YES of "Tales From Topographic Oceans" recorded at 7 1/2 ips and the audio is phenominal. In most ways it will better CD's. That is unless you have a very very very high end and expensive transport and DAC or all in one CD player. This deck is considered the pinacle of consumer reel-to-reel deck produced by Teac or pretty much any other manufacturer. It was one of the last consumer decks produced as well. If you record your own 7.5 ips reels you will love the sound produced by this deck; that is both the recorded audio and playback audio. My brother is a reel to reel expert and owns many decks. I have heard many decks and this is absolutely one of the best I've heard.

    That said, it's up to you what you think. All I can say is buy some reels and/or record your own and listen for yourself. I think you will be impressed with what you hear. Please let us know what you think.

    Greg
    Hi Greg it does seem to command respect from what little I have read and I will certainly give it a go and I appreciate your experience and input. It is for sure a solidly built machine and cost a pretty penny when it was made around 4k at the time if I recall correctly so I have high hopes for it.


    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    Just wanted to go on record - publicly -as saying I haven't forgotten the two commitments I've made in this thread.... but it's gonna be next week, at least, before I can dub a couple of tapes. Dang work... :-P
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited June 2012
    snow wrote: »
    Hi Greg it does seem to command respect from what little I have read and I will certainly give it a go and I appreciate your experience and input. It is for sure a solidly built machine and cost a pretty penny when it was made around 4k at the time if I recall correctly so I have high hopes for it.


    REGARDS SNOW

    Let's see the setup with the X-2000R deck playing something after you receive the deck. Also, let us know what you think of the audio from the X-2000R.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Just wanted to go on record - publicly -as saying I haven't forgotten the two commitments I've made in this thread.... but it's gonna be next week, at least, before I can dub a couple of tapes. Dang work... :-P
    No worries, I appreciate you doing this.

    REGARDS SNOW
    headrott wrote: »
    Let's see the setup with the X-2000R deck playing something after you receive the deck. Also, let us know what you think of the audio from the X-2000R.
    Well I think I have a pic of it without any tape for the interim.
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    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited June 2012
    *cough* piracy *cough*

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    Syndil wrote: »
    *cough* piracy *cough*
    ?? :mrgreen:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    Snow... would you like a blank tape and a takeup reel? That I could get in the mail tomorrow... and you could make your own tape in the meantime (it's OK to dub digital, if that's all yez gots...)

    Srsly, PM me an address if you want to try your own!
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Snow... would you like a blank tape and a takeup reel? That I could get in the mail tomorrow... and you could make your own tape in the meantime (it's OK to dub digital, if that's all yez gots...)

    Srsly, PM me an address if you want to try your own!
    No it's allright Mark I dont mind the wait, and I would actually like to hear the sound of a tape that I know was done by someone who knew what they were doing. I read somewhere that "Pirated" music sounds better anyways :mrgreen:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited June 2012
    aiyeee! the "P" word :-O
    Maybe I'd better see if I have a surplus, prerecorded commercial Lawrence Welk tape or something, to keep the industry happy!

    ;-)
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2012
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    aiyeee! the "P" word :-O
    Maybe I'd better see if I have a surplus, prerecorded commercial Lawrence Welk tape or something, to keep the industry happy!

    ;-)
    I find it funny that Syndil even brought it up, at first I thought what the hell is he talking about? I am pretty sure even though 2 hardened criminals like us would most likely get a pass on this one from the RIA considering that to most of the world it is a dead format, but I guess if they want to send the tape gestapo to my door then let em go ahead on, the funny thing is with music you can pretty much type in any group or song in the world on YOUTUBE and download a video of it in a minute or less.

    Is it illegal to record radio songs too?



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited June 2012
    schwarcw wrote: »
    This is the one that Ken Swauger tuned up for me. He also replace my lights with blue LEDs.

    You dogs! :cheesygrin: Makes me lust for one!
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