Do I want a squeezebox touch???

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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited May 2012
    No problem. Keep in mind you won't be able to use the Touch's included remote without line of sight--it's a standard IR remote. You'll have to use some other method for controlling the Squeezebox, like a Squeezebox Duet controller, or a smartphone/tablet app, or a PC. So it can be done, but not with just the stuff that's included in the box.

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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited September 2012
    Based on my experience with one of the little devils, I would say, "no."
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    Based on my experience with one of the little devils, I would say, "no."

    Have you used it outside of trying to integrate iTunes?

    Nice how you bash a product when it's iTunes that's the issue, not the Squeezebox. Guess you should have spent twice as much for a Sonos which is marketed directly at and specifically for Apple integration.

    The SQB makes no such promises
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited September 2012
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    I will be able to move it around so that is not a problem. I heard somewhere that the squeezebox could only handle about 10,000 files. I have a bit more than that.

    Sonos had a file limit when I bought a few years ago. I believe it is/was 10,000. Not sure if this is still true.

    Craig
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited September 2012
    No limit like that in Squeezebox. I have 25,000. And growing....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited September 2012
    I finally broke down and decided to start ripping my CDs and bought a SB Touch. Received it on Monday and had it up and running Monday evening. It had a short learning curve, but within an hour I had the server software and the Touch working. I am using dbPoweramp to rip the CDs and set up the FLAC files (nice program!). Before the night was over I was able to control the Touch by not only it's remote and screen, but 1) my Logitech 1100 remote, 2) my Android phone, and 3) my IPad. The audio out is what I am using with nice results, but an External DAC is in my near future for improved sonics. In one session I ripped about 25 CDs with the average time about 5 minutes each so this will actually be easier than I was expecting. It is a shame that Logitech has discontinued this device and I am tempted to acquire a second one before they are all sold.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited September 2012
    doctor r wrote: »
    It is a shame that Logitech has discontinued this device and I am tempted to acquire a second one before they are all sold.

    Get 'em while you still can. I have two Touches, one Classic, two Radios, and a Boom.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nwohlford
    nwohlford Posts: 700
    edited September 2012
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Sonos had a file limit when I bought a few years ago. I believe it is/was 10,000. Not sure if this is still true.

    Craig

    I think that the limit is if you hook a usb harddrive directly to the Touch and are using the internal server rather than a version of the server running on your computer.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited September 2012
    nwohlford wrote: »
    I think that the limit is if you hook a usb harddrive directly to the Touch and are using the internal server rather than a version of the server running on your computer.

    Thanks, I'll take a look at that tonight. I'm trying to set up a cloud server at home to feed the Sonos system at the beach and it's approaching 2 TB, so I don't want to have to copy/update a second drive.

    I will say that Sonos continues to improve on established products and develop new ones with apparent desire to remain in this market niche. Stuff like the sub and Amazon Cloud streaming, which, in the future, may turn out to be significant if they can get beyond the 192ish level.

    Craig
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • nwohlford
    nwohlford Posts: 700
    edited September 2012
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Thanks, I'll take a look at that tonight. I'm trying to set up a cloud server at home to feed the Sonos system at the beach and it's approaching 2 TB, so I don't want to have to copy/update a second drive.

    I will say that Sonos continues to improve on established products and develop new ones with apparent desire to remain in this market niche. Stuff like the sub and Amazon Cloud streaming, which, in the future, may turn out to be significant if they can get beyond the 192ish level.

    Craig

    As far as usuability, I did prefer the Sonos over the Squeezebox. I only ended up keeping the Squeezebox, because of the built-in screen on the Touch meant that I did not have to buy a separate controller or set-up a wireless network just to use my iPhone to control it. I was also interested in the ability to just be able to hook the Touch up to a harddrive and not to have to have a computer in the set-up. Outside of those issue, I would have happily kept one of the Sonos units and not bothered with the Squeezebox. I had a Squeezebox Duet in the past and that thing was maddening. I had figured out all of the issues with it before I sold it but was still happy to get rid of it.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited September 2012
    You no longer have to buy the controller from Sonos, don't even think they offer them anymore. A free app for your phone is available to take it's place. There are ways to get around the 10-15000 song limit and 192 rez, that market is somewhat shallow. Most do 24/96, and even prefer the SQ over 192, but to each his own on that subject.

    Either one will give you countless options, freedom from those cd cases laying around, and open your world to new music. Go for it.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited September 2012
    nwohlford wrote: »
    As far as usuability, I did prefer the Sonos over the Squeezebox. I only ended up keeping the Squeezebox, because of the built-in screen on the Touch meant that I did not have to buy a separate controller or set-up a wireless network just to use my iPhone to control it. I was also interested in the ability to just be able to hook the Touch up to a harddrive and not to have to have a computer in the set-up. Outside of those issue, I would have happily kept one of the Sonos units and not bothered with the Squeezebox. I had a Squeezebox Duet in the past and that thing was maddening. I had figured out all of the issues with it before I sold it but was still happy to get rid of it.

    Well I'm glad you decided to sell :wink:

    I like both systems. I don't like the SB computer app at all. For SB, I like the SB iPad app and iPeng for phone. For Sonos, I like the stock computer and phone apps. There's a little more flexibility with the Touch outputs and, although I never did a direct A-B comparison, I give a slight edge in sound quality to the Touch.

    Craig
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • kappclark
    kappclark Posts: 136
    edited September 2012
    FWIW, the logitech media server is DLNA compliant -- I can listen to the music via Sony TV downstairs..(the duet is upstairs)..the files are on a garden-variety laptop..

    I do not have a Touch, but a Duet (discontinued)
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited September 2012
    For folks you have Touch you might want to try some of the modification made to software setting by SoundCheck. In my setup (Zu Omen Def Mk.1B, Response Audio 3205 Extreme Tube Amp, Touch connected via wired connection) it help settle the sound down a bit. There was another therad on Logitech's forum about some other setting changes which also made some further improvements to the sound. Will find the thread and post the link. It is a long thread but good useful information.
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited September 2012
    Sounds tempting... as if I don't have enough trouble already.

    Has anyone else here tried it?
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    Cabling by Groneberg
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited September 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    Sounds tempting... as if I don't have enough trouble already.

    Has anyone else here tried it?

    Links to the thread on slimdevice forum discussing the results from the SouchCheck software mods (warning it it about 200 pages long) - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?91322-soundcheck-s-Touch-Toolbox-3-0
    Shorter discussion one on audiocircle - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=82624.0

    As promised the other modification that I mentioned earlier - Dynobot (https://sites.google.com/site/computeraudioorg/squeezebox-touch-tweaks). Associated discussion thread - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?89359-New-Squeezebox-Touch-Mod

    I have not tried the Dynobot changes yet. Plan to have my system settle down for few more weeks before I try that mode.
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited September 2012
    shadowlight wrote: »
    Links to the thread on slimdevice forum discussing the results from the SouchCheck software mods (warning it it about 200 pages long) - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?91322-soundcheck-s-Touch-Toolbox-3-0
    Shorter discussion one on audiocircle - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=82624.0

    Thank you
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    - Isaac Asimov
    Hi-Fi
    Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Joule Electra LA-100 Mark iii --> Odyssey Khartargo Mono Plus --> LSiM-705's
    Cabling by Groneberg
    Visuals
    https://media.illinois.edu/journalism/ledford-charles-stretch
    bit.ly/stretchonphotojournalism
    http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited September 2012
    stretchl wrote: »
    Thank you

    You are welcome. Easy mod to make and it does not cost a dime other than 20 to 30 minutes of your time.
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  • shadowlight
    shadowlight Posts: 327
    edited September 2012
    If you want a dedicated Squeezebox server you can use VortexBox which can be downloaded from here. You can install the software on any old pc which is collecting dust - Summary of Vortex features
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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    edited September 2012
    Does anyone use Pure Music? It looks pretty sweet.


    http://www.channld.com/puremusic/
    “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
    - Isaac Asimov
    Hi-Fi
    Apple Lossless --> Squeezebox Touch --> Joule Electra LA-100 Mark iii --> Odyssey Khartargo Mono Plus --> LSiM-705's
    Cabling by Groneberg
    Visuals
    https://media.illinois.edu/journalism/ledford-charles-stretch
    bit.ly/stretchonphotojournalism
    http://Vimeo.com/channels/stretchphoto
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  • gigbyt
    gigbyt Posts: 145
    edited October 2012
    Seems everyone who has one loves them, HMMMMMM..........
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