Do I want a squeezebox touch???

rromeo923
rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
edited October 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
I just posted in Wanted to buy that I was looking for a squeezebox touch. However I am wondering if that is what I really want or will it do what I want.

I have about 2 TB of flac and mp3 music. I have 5 different sound systems in my house. I would like to be able to playmy flac or mp3 files wirelessly anywhere in my house. Will squeezebox do this??
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited May 2012
  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited May 2012
    jump in...don't look back...
  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited May 2012
    Hold up guys...
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    I have 5 different sound systems in my house. I would like to be able to playmy flac or mp3 files wirelessly anywhere in my house. Will squeezebox do this??

    The SqueezeBox Touch is a single source, so it's set up to bring digital music to one system. Now if you've got some way to distribute one source to all 5 of your systems that would work, but a single SqueezeBox alone isn't going to do it. You'd need 5 SqueezeBox receivers it you wanted to stick with strictly SqueezeBox. If you've got a game console or a DLNA-enabled A/V receiver in any of those rooms, they could be set up to bring the music to those particular rooms.

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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited May 2012
    that's true...it is very portable, tho
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    Syndil wrote: »
    Hold up guys...



    The SqueezeBox Touch is a single source, so it's set up to bring digital music to one system. Now if you've got some way to distribute one source to all 5 of your systems that would work, but a single SqueezeBox alone isn't going to do it. You'd need 5 SqueezeBox receivers it you wanted to stick with strictly SqueezeBox. If you've got a game console or a DLNA-enabled A/V receiver in any of those rooms, they could be set up to bring the music to those particular rooms.

    What he said, but I am not sure if DNLA enabled gear can play FLAC yet......
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited May 2012
    Sonos can do that, bring it all to every system, but it's gonna cost some coin. There is no cheaper alternative though if you want to play on multiple systems from one computer source. I cut down my own zones by using a receiver with speaker A and B switching, that way I cover 2 zones with one sonos. At 375 a pop, and 5 systems, it's fairly expensive, but you'll be able to play all zones seperately, with different music, or combine a few or all of them together. They have a free phone app to use as a controller, so your covered there too. You could probably do the same with a SB touch, buy one for every system, don't know how well they let you combine all the zones though so maybe someone else can chime in on that. Those are your 2 options for not that much coin.
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited May 2012
    I do know that multiple SqueezeBoxs can be synced to play together, but that is not something I have played with myself.

    He could also buy multiple spare "dumb" SqueezeBox receivers (like the ones that came with the Duet system) from eBay for fairly cheap, and control them with a single Duet controller or phone apps. That would probably be the route I would go. If you've got 5 systems, I'd assume one of them is your serious listening system--put the Touch on that one. But just to get some sound in the other 4 rooms, the dumb receivers work just fine for that.

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  • gdpeck
    gdpeck Posts: 840
    edited May 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    Sonos can do that, bring it all to every system, but it's gonna cost some coin. There is no cheaper alternative though if you want to play on multiple systems from one computer source. I cut down my own zones by using a receiver with speaker A and B switching, that way I cover 2 zones with one sonos. At 375 a pop, and 5 systems, it's fairly expensive, but you'll be able to play all zones seperately, with different music, or combine a few or all of them together. They have a free phone app to use as a controller, so your covered there too. You could probably do the same with a SB touch, buy one for every system, don't know how well they let you combine all the zones though so maybe someone else can chime in on that. Those are your 2 options for not that much coin.

    I've used Squeezeboxes for a few years now, and their multi-zone and zone synch capabilities are awesome. As stated above, if you need music at all 5 systems at once you will need 5 Squeezebox devices, but once you get used to the convenience I think you'll want 5 devices.
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2012
    I have a system similar to what Syndil was suggesting above:

    I currently run 6 zones - a Touch in my main system, a Classic in my garage, 2 Duet receivers for my outdoor zones, a converted old smartphone (using the squeezeplayer app) for my bedroom, and my sixth is on my actual phone - configured to stream my music anywhere I have data coverage. You can hunt for used Classics and Duet receivers on the net. I can synch them all or have each playing something different.
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2012
    I also have numerous control options - Android/iPhone apps on my phone (and old phones), computer interface (web browser), and a Duet controller. My favorite is a Kindle Fire that I'm running Squeeze Commander on - 7" touchscreen display is cool.
  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited May 2012
    The question should be why anyone would not want a squeezebox.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    cubdog wrote: »
    The question should be why anyone would not want a squeezebox.

    cubdog

    Because it doesn't fit with a smoking jacket, mahogany pipe, moldy cheese and merlot.......:lol::cheesygrin::twisted:




    Meaning, the old schooler's don't believe in those new, modern contraptions :cheesygrin:

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Because it doesn't fit with a smoking jacket, mahogany pipe, moldy cheese and MALBEC.......:lol::cheesygrin::twisted:

    Fixed it for you. Now I would take that AND my squeezebox any day...
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited May 2012
    i can tell you and i think all would agree, the squeezebox was the best audio product i've added, period...
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited May 2012
    sda2mike wrote: »
    i can tell you and i think all would agree, the squeezebox was the best audio product i've added, period...

    I concur.
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  • cascius
    cascius Posts: 177
    edited May 2012
    If nobody minds, i'd like to piggy back a question regarding SB:
    How does SB work with a universal remote control? I want to avoid having yet another remote control in my system (I don't want ot use my phone/ipad either). Does SB have a ten foot UI for the TV (like an Apple TV or Boxee Box)?

    As much as possible I like to have things integrated and hidden. From what I saw on the SB website, it looks like I would need an extra remote. :s

    Thanks,

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited May 2012
    Any logitech harmony will work fine but with any non lcd remote its gonna be a pain if you have a large library. So most of the time I use my Iphone (or android when I had one). That works great. the duet remote also works nicely.

    So the answer is yes a universal remote will work, but an iphone/ipad/lcd remote will work the best.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    cascius wrote: »
    If nobody minds, i'd like to piggy back a question regarding SB:
    How does SB work with a universal remote control? I want to avoid having yet another remote control in my system (I don't want ot use my phone/ipad either). Does SB have a ten foot UI for the TV (like an Apple TV or Boxee Box)?

    As much as possible I like to have things integrated and hidden. From what I saw on the SB website, it looks like I would need an extra remote. :s

    Thanks,

    - olivier

    Thats why I decided I want a Apple TV rather than a SB Touch. Yes I have to have the TV on to browse my library, but I would anyway by default. Plus I just got an iPhone and have my office system as well. All will be accessing the same library and playing back AIFF (another type of lossless file).

    Plus the apple TV is cheaper than the SB Touch and if your hardwired (like I am) wireless isnt a need, nor are the DAC's if your using HDMI or optical.
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  • rromeo923
    rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
    edited May 2012
    I will be able to move it around so that is not a problem. I heard somewhere that the squeezebox could only handle about 10,000 files. I have a bit more than that.
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    The reflected sound of everything
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    rromeo923 wrote: »
    I will be able to move it around so that is not a problem. I heard somewhere that the squeezebox could only handle about 10,000 files. I have a bit more than that.

    Never heard that before. That's roughly only 1000 cd's (if you assume an avg. of 10 tracks per cd) my brother is approaching 5000 cd's and has them all ripped and he has no issues. Where did you hear that?

    H9
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited May 2012
    Is an external dac a must or is the onboard Dac decent?
  • rromeo923
    rromeo923 Posts: 1,513
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Never heard that before. That's roughly only 1000 cd's (if you assume an avg. of 10 tracks per cd) my brother is approaching 5000 cd's and has them all ripped and he has no issues. Where did you hear that?

    H9

    From some audio forum
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Is an external dac a must or is the onboard Dac decent?

    It's decent enough to satisfy most. I have been using external dac's for a long time and it's my standard so I choose that route. But overall I think the internal dac circuit is pretty good. Of course I'm not satisfied with the walwart power supply so I have an external linear supply for my Touch. But I am anal and these things when added up, make a difference.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited May 2012
  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's decent enough to satisfy most. I have been using external dac's for a long time and it's my standard so I choose that route. But overall I think the internal dac circuit is pretty good. Of course I'm not satisfied with the walwart power supply so I have an external linear supply for my Touch. But I am anal and these things when added up, make a difference.

    H9

    which linear power supply do you have for the Touch?
  • sandworms
    sandworms Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2012
    I'm reluctantly gonna threadjack, although I will 100% highly recommend the touch, I also need to know if I can use a touch in my garage and control it from my deck somehow? Plus, does anyone know if this deal is legit, or should I go elsewhere?
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited May 2012
    That seller is in the UK. What are you going to do if there is a problem with the item? Call the UK? Ship it back to the UK? Not a good idea, especially since you don't save that much after shipping costs are added.

    As far as controls, there are many ways to control a Squeezebox. If you are in range of WiFi, you could use a Duet controller or a phone app or a PC to control it.

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  • sandworms
    sandworms Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2012
    I kinda thought that the UK deal was risky endeavor, and as far as remote control on the touch, your saying I can keep my touch in the my garage set up, and control it while on my attatched deck w/o line of site?
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited May 2012
    As long as your deck is in range of your WiFi network, yes.

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  • sandworms
    sandworms Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2012
    Sweet! thankyou so much for the quick replies, and sorry rromeo923 for the derail
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    Sonus faber venere 2.5
    Sf venere center
    Oppo 105d
    Squeezebox touch
    Parasound hca1500a
    Apc power filter
    Audioquest cables asst
    Polk rtia3 SB
    Polk fxia6 sl,sr
    Dual hsu vtf3 mk3