1.2 (tl)?

Mr. Bubbles
Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
edited May 2012 in Vintage Speakers
I've got a line on some SRS1.2's as described by the owner. From the pics I think they may be TL's but the tweets don't look to be black. However they do not look like the normal SL2000 like in my SRS's and other Polk's. What do i look for externally to tell the difference. I know I can tell by pulling the tweets or crossovers but do not know the external visual cues between the 1.2 and the 1.2TL.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    Ummmmm......can you post the pic? The most obvious is the tweeter. Be aware the sl3000 can take on an almost bronze-ish/goldish color as they age. The big tell on the sl3000 and sl2500 tweeter is the dark/black foam ring on the bezel around the base of the dome.

    H9
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited May 2012
    not great but the best pic I have of the tweets.
    tn.jpg
    tn.jpg 41.4K
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    Hard to tell from the photo. They look like sl3000 tweets, I'm about 95% sure, the domes aren't black so they aren't RD0's.......I think I can see the foam ring.

    They look like 1.2TL's

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Hard to tell from the photo. They look like sl3000 tweets, I'm about 95% sure, the domes aren't black so they aren't RD0's.......I think I can see the foam ring.

    They look like 1.2TL's

    H9

    I agree. I'd bet good money that they are sl-3000's... meaning that they're TL's.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited May 2012
    That has been my thinking as well but I have never seen an SL3000 so I am not really sure what I am looking at. I also know that the tweets here do not look lik my other SL2000's but do not know if they put the different faceplate on later versions of the 2000 or if it changed with the 2500/ 3000's
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited May 2012
    for sure they are NOT SL2000. I just replaced 4 of them for my 1C and don't look anything from your pics
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,446
    edited May 2012
    TL's ..no voice coil leads visible.
  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited May 2012
    SL2000.jpg
    SL2000 Tweeter


    SL3000.jpg
    SL3000 Tweeter

    Hope this helps and I got it right.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited May 2012
    Thats what i had pictured. Every 2000 Ive seen looks like the one in the pic from Gimpod. The ones in the second pic labeled SL3000 look like the ones in the speakers i am looking at. i just wasn't sure if any of the 2000's had a different faceplate like the 3000's. I didn't consider the lead wire exposure. Anyway the price is almost too good to pass up and includes a lot of other gear as well. If/when I get them home I'll let everyone know.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited May 2012
    Bunch of amateurs.....those are SL3000's. Now that alone doesn't make them 1.2TL's, so pull a crossover, you want to see a sticker with BE2000-C on it.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited May 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bunch of amateurs.....those are SL3000's. Now that alone doesn't make them 1.2TL's, so pull a crossover, you want to see a sticker with BE2000-C on it.

    I know I can tell by the crossover. I was looking for external visual clues. However, according to the diagrams and parts lists in the sticky's here. the SL3000's would be an indicator of the TL vs the 1.2. I also realize that there was a lot of overlap sometimes due to using old parts and such. Due to that same philosophy i was not sure that there were never SL2000's with the same faceplate that the 3000's used. That's why I asked here. I know H9 and some others here really know their vintage Polk so I figured this was a good place to verify any external visual clues i may use BEFORE purchasing the speakers. Once i get them home (if I do) I can then pull the crossovers and verify.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,446
    edited May 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bunch of amateurs.....those are SL3000's. Now that alone doesn't make them 1.2TL's, so pull a crossover, you want to see a sticker with BE2000-C on it.

    So I can move up from amateur to intermediate the 1.2's came with SL3000's and NOT SL2000? The difference between 1.2 and 1.2TL's is in the crossover only?
  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited May 2012
    I have to agree with F1, I have come a across many SDA's that previous owners have put the wrong tweets in so there is a chance that they could be another version SDA. hopefully they are TL's though.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited May 2012
    I know I can tell by the crossover. I was looking for external visual clues.

    Yeah, yeah....the 1.2TL crossover plate will have only one bolt in the middle. You should still check the crossover BEFORE you buy them.
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited May 2012
    100% certain they are 1.2 TL'S. They will have a pin/blade interconnect socket. If I'm wrong I'll karma my pair :lol:
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited May 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Bunch of amateurs.....those are SL3000's. Now that alone doesn't make them 1.2TL's, so pull a crossover, you want to see a sticker with BE2000-C on it.


    Haha!!! Yeah I agree but I'm 100% sure they are 1.2tl's
  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited May 2012
    Ok. I got them. Get ready for this people........drum roll.......................... I can't believe that no one mentioned this one! (especially F1) At least some of these actually say TL on them. These do, so that's as good of an external indicator as I needed. Michael, Whew! I'm glad for you. You get to keep yours.

    Las they do have the brace, they are pin/ blade, and the ser's are 65?? 0n one and 68?? on the other so though not consecutive they are also indicated to be a L/R pair and TL's

    Thank everyone for the input. Though I have a nice collection of vintage Polk at this point, I'm still relatively new to them (less than a year since I picked up my 2A's) and still learning a lot.

    I'll start a different thread on the entire score. Man I'm like a kid at Christmas right now!!!!
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited May 2012
    I can't believe that no one mentioned this one! (especially F1) At least some of these actually say TL on them.

    I didn't mention that for the very reason you stated, some don't.
    They will have a pin/blade interconnect socket.

    So do the 1.2's.
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited May 2012
    Congratulations!
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