Making acoustic panels and other general room treatment questions

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,507
    edited January 2012
    thejck wrote: »
    I have large 5 feet tall glass windows behind me about a foot from where I set. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to live with this?


    Check my friend Blake's thread out for a possible solution. 2nd post has pics.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?86154-Room-Treatment-Revelations&highlight=acoustic+treatments

    He hangs treatments in the window for listening, and can remove them when he wants to look out the window. Or for someone to look in.....:cheesygrin:

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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited February 2012
    SCompRacer - Thanks for the link, Blake's room is definitely nice! Great idea on making the window panels moveable. However, I'd like to point out that the microsuede fabric will decrease the performance of the panels, especially in the high frequencies. Acoustically transparent fabrics are needed to maximize absorption...

    Having said that, some people would much rather have improved aesthetics than the absolute best performance.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 632
    edited February 2012
    So if your limited with how much thickness you can have extending outward from the wall, which is the lesser of two evils......

    1) one in thick panel mounted one inch from the wall, or
    2) two inch panel mounted flush on the wall
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  • tommyt21
    tommyt21 Posts: 685
    edited February 2012
    I just got some more Acoustimac panels in suede and they are freaking gorgeous makes it easy getting the wwifes approval.
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  • PreCd
    PreCd Posts: 786
    edited April 2012
    I just finished DIY'ing my frames for my acoustic panels. I ordered Roxul Safe n Sound from Lowes. While I was there I picked up some 1x3 furring strips. Cut them to fit the Roxul, pre-drilled the ends, applied wood glue, and screwed them together. The Roxul 3 inch fit in there very well. Ordered burlap from Acoustic Panels. Will be here soon and wifey will cover them. Here are the 4x2 frames:

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,306
    edited April 2012
    Here are some WAF DIY (2) panels I worked on today, I have some 2 3/4" deep DIY picture framing coming which will frame these 26"w x88" tall.
    Bought a couple tapestries, and some 2"ECO acoustic insulation from Acoustimac.

    These will go behind my Usher minidancer-2's in a couple weeks...so far so good...like I said wife approved

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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited April 2012
    Looking good, txcoastal1! One suggestion, you might want to paint the staples black, or use a black sharpie to darken them. It should make them disappear a little better...
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,306
    edited April 2012
    audio_alan wrote: »
    Looking good, txcoastal1! One suggestion, you might want to paint the staples black, or use a black sharpie to darken them. It should make them disappear a little better...

    I have ordered deep picture frame to bezel the sides and the front see link
    http://www.pictureframes.com/scripts/WebObjects/PictureFrames.woa/wa/CustomCollection?sec=Super+Canvas+Woods&sku=SP8
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  • PreCd
    PreCd Posts: 786
    edited April 2012
    Those panels do look good my friend. One question. Why enclose the back of the panel? From what I have been reading from many different sources leaving the back permeable allows the sound to bounce from the wall back through the panel therefore increasing the efficiency of the panel.

    Then again I look on the ATS Acoustics website and see that the panel they sell for DIYers has an enclosed back.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,306
    edited April 2012
    PreCd wrote: »
    Those panels do look good my friend. One question. Why enclose the back of the panel? From what I have been reading from many different sources leaving the back permeable allows the sound to bounce from the wall back through the panel therefore increasing the efficiency of the panel.

    Then again I look on the ATS Acoustics website and see that the panel they sell for DIYers has an enclosed back.

    The density of that backing (shot 9/16" staples like butter) is really no different than the sheetrock with 3 layers of paint, plus having 14' ceilings those panels are 7-1/2' tall helped keep frame rigid
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  • PreCd
    PreCd Posts: 786
    edited April 2012
    Good point.
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    The density of that backing (shot 9/16" staples like butter) is really no different than the sheetrock with 3 layers of paint, plus having 14' ceilings those panels are 7-1/2' tall helped keep frame rigid
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,507
    edited April 2012
    Nice to see the DIY and interest in acoustic treatments. Here is another way to build them. These are GIK 244's that I recovered with a Guilford of Maine fabric the wife picked out.

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  • jigarsee
    jigarsee Posts: 2
    edited December 2012
    SDA1C article links are really helpful for me because I started implementing things after reading these articles.
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