Squeezebox Touch-tips, tricks & tweaks

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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited January 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    ID/3 tags are referred to as metadata.

    When you said you don't use metadata on your files, I assumed you meant no tagging info. Tags (ID3) are known as 'descriptive metadata'. So I was just clarifying what you meant.

    H9

    You're right. I worded it incorrectly at the start. However, I didn't know ID tags were classified as metadata along with cover art. My point was about the art. Period. So I apologize. Thanks for clearing up what I wanted to say.

    However...
    heiney9 wrote: »
    How? Using Windows? Sound like fun when you are sitting in your listening chair trying to get your listen on. Not to mention how tedious it would be to manually name each file individually. Thank God for metadata and ID3 tags.

    H9

    Really? Sarcasm much?
  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited January 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Plus, you like to always follow me around and like to call me out whenever you feel I've opinned in error.
    Yeah Brock because I disagreed with you on one or two technical points of late I guess I'm a stalker. You yourself are very quick to respond to posts you deem erronous to as you would say set the record straight.As an aside we are (IMO atleast) in agreement more times than not.

    By itself as a statement it could have been worded differently to be more succinct.

    But I was pointing out exactly what you state.

    H9
    Sorry my mistake if I took it out of context.I should have been more thorough in my atempt to try and determine what the true meaning of your statement was.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    Drenis wrote: »
    You're right. I worded it incorrectly at the start. However, I didn't know ID tags were classified as metadata along with cover art. My point was about the art. Period. So I apologize. Thanks for clearing up what I wanted to say.

    However...



    Really? Sarcasm much?

    You know of another way to embed data (metadata) into a file? The other way is to name the files in Windows (whatever you want them to be) and then do a Windows search when you want to find them or at the very least Windows Explorer to manage them. As soon as you take the file out of the Windows environment the file name assigned to it by Windows means nothing. Perhaps it came off to you as sarcasm, but it's 100% true.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    FTGV wrote: »
    Yeah Brock because I disagreed with you on one or two technical points of late I guess I'm a stalker. You yourself are very quick to respond to posts you deem erronous to as you would say set the record straight.As an aside we are (IMO atleast) in agreement more times than not.


    Sorry my mistake if I took it out of context.I should have been more thorough in my atempt to try and determine what the true meaning of your statement was.

    I know Fred, that's why I edited my original post.......to caustic. Words on the screen, yada, yada....I didn't word it very clearly to begin with. A clear case of me the writer understanding what I meant, but the re-reading it later thinking, hmmmm that's confusing.

    We agree that even a soundcard output using K-mixer to an outboard dac would be better than and iPod and or headphone jack outputting the same signal.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited January 2012
    EAC does find cover art. It's in the set-up. You can point it to where you want to get the art from. It has a freebie default or you can specify a pay site. To configure start EAC and click on the EAC tab, then Metadata options. Metadata provider should be 'freedb Metadata plugin'. Also under 'Metadata options' click on the 'freedb' tab and make sure your email address is there or else it won't work.
    To retrieve album art select 'Database' tab, then 'Get CD Information from', then select 'Remote Metadata provider'. Do this prior to burning. You can choose to search for small, medium or large images (i use medium). It will display a bunch of choices and just select the one you want and click on 'Transfer selected cover to EAC'
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2012
    Thanks man. You rock.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    Steve and others, it's just another thing to add when you are ripping. Who knows what technology or configuration is coming down the pipe. You may not use cover art now, but in the future you could wish you added it at the beginning rather than having to add it all at a later date. It's free and once configured is there if you need it in the future.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2012
    I'm waiting for magic software that will scan my entire library and fetch all my cover art automatically. LOL
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2012
    steveinaz wrote: »
    I'm waiting for magic software that will scan my entire library and fetch all my cover art automatically. LOL

    Aren't you married ;)
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited January 2012
    Aren't you married ;)

    God help him the day he asked Bev to "fetch" something for him. She knows where the guns are at.

    Magic software ? They all pretty much do it, one click and it "fetches" art for the whole library. Album art may or may not be of significance to some, but I find the visual aspect of audio on some level just as enjoyable. Seeing an album cover brings back memories of where I was, who I was with, though.....who I was with may not be that enjoyable of a memory now that I think about it. Ok, lets stick to where I was at.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2012
    ...and she can shoot them well.

    What software does that?
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    God help him the day he asked Bev to "fetch" something for him. She knows where the guns are at.
    steveinaz wrote: »
    ...and she can shoot them well.

    As a married man myself that was obviously meant in jest (as you both took it :smile:). I dont own guns, but my wife can throw a pretty mean fast and accurate shoe :wink:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited January 2012
    What software.....the one your using to rip does it. Itunes even does it though not as good as others. My sonos does it, most others like media monkey and J rivers does it. Theres no magic bro, it's a matter of going into your advanced menu and clicking on "get album art", and it does the whole library in minutes. Maybe a different way of doing it between softwares, but in general, yeah, it's that easy.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2012
    Cool, I'll have to check that out.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2012
    Having the album art just looks better and professional. Well worth the time to do. I have about 30 out of 857 that I had load manually, no big deal and looks great.
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  • TG Meat
    TG Meat Posts: 159
    edited February 2012
    Ok, based on some of the impressions of the forum, I pulled the trigger on CI Audio's PSU for the Touch today. I really debated Welbourne Vs. CI, but reading about some of the drama with Welbourne, it made it an easy choice. I have really been listening to the Touch alot and like what I hear, however, I am hopeful this might offer a better experience. I guess I have 30 days to decide, with small restocking fee, if I do not notice improvement. Thanks to everyone for posting your experiences and impressions. I hope to do a little review, after I receive and settle it in my system.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2012
    Can't say with any certainty that my CIA improved things, but I do like the idea of cleaner/better regulated power. There does seem to be a teeny bit more solidity to the sound.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2012
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Can't say with any certainty that my CIA improved things, but I do like the idea of cleaner/better regulated power. There does seem to be a teeny bit more solidity to the sound.

    Steve, mine open up another layer of resolution to the point that I can literally see the band players in the front speakers....

    ok. Agreed with Steve, but the cool blue light is to die for.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2012
    Sometimes, especially with subtle upgrades, I question wether I'm hearing differences or just getting used to the sound. I *think* there is more spaciousness, a bit quieter background, and a touch more body--but like I said, it's very subtle--and I'm not that confident in these findings. Either way---I'd do it over again. Given it's performance/price ratio, the Touch "deserves" a better power supply. Most people spend more on a single cable.

    IMO, the "magic" combo with the SQB Touch is: Flac, DAC, power supply.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    My Welborne, PS wasn't night and day at first listen. But comparing it to the walwart back to back I noticed much better imaging, delineation, crispness and even blacker background. After several listening sessions, for me, it's a must to use a nicer, cleaner power unit like the CIA or Welborne.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited February 2012
    I've never tried my Touch without the upgraded ps, as I already owned the Welborne, but from everything I've read the improvement is there but subtle. For the Squeezebox Classic, however, the improvement was dramatic.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2012
    Word is that the Classic had a very poor switcher, making the PS upgrade far more significant.

    I figure:

    Touch...$239 (what I paid)
    CIA PS..$259

    Total...$498; not too shabby for an excellent source.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited February 2012
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2012
    Can somebody have mercy on me? I use iTunes, and a PC all files are ripped in AIFF...very few cover arts are showing up...can you direct me to a page within this thread? So far a slight improvement over my Apple TV and the squeeze pad app is much better then the Apple remote app however the cover art is bumming me out...I had it all in ATV and iTunes...
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited February 2012
    Just ordered mine today! nice price from Electronics Expo store on Amazon.

    can't wait!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    LuSh wrote: »
    Can somebody have mercy on me? I use iTunes, and a PC all files are ripped in AIFF...very few cover arts are showing up...can you direct me to a page within this thread? So far a slight improvement over my Apple TV and the squeeze pad app is much better then the Apple remote app however the cover art is bumming me out...I had it all in ATV and iTunes...

    I know nothing about Apple or iTunes, etc.......but I'm told by Apple lovers the platform is so much better and so much easier than a PC it should practically pull the cover art out of thin air if you just smile at it.

    Good luck, wish I could help but I use a PC and I have all my cover art. :lol:
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited February 2012
    LuSh, I was going to direct you to mp3tag, since I think it's the best tagging program out there, however, I just looked and it doesn't seem to support AIFF. Have you considered something like dbpoweramp to convert to another format, such as flac?
  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2012
    I have figured it out. I thought I had ripped most of my files in AIFF but actually only half were, the other half were in WAV...so I'm re-ripping and sure enought squeeze center is finding everything. If you own an iPad I highly recommend Squeezepad for music control, it's simply awesome.
  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2012
    Gents, who has tried and subscribe to MOG streaming to SQBT? It's $10/month but guaranteed 320 kbps streaming. I've been happy with Pandora and Slacker, so the only consideration is hi-res, not selection. worth it?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    edited February 2012
    I ve tried it briefly, with my Sonos, didn't think anything stood out as being better than any of the others.
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