Son got his iPhone stolen today

mantis
mantis Posts: 17,192
edited October 2011 in The Clubhouse
Whats up people?
My son got his phone stolen at school today. He didn't set up find my iPhone on iCloud for some dumb reason ( I wanna kill him) and I'm wondering if there is any other way to find it track it etc?

Anyone?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,612
    edited October 2011
    I would think your cell phone provider could track it?
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,192
    edited October 2011
    Thats not a bad idea
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,612
    edited October 2011
    I have a good idea every once in a while, good luck! :)
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited October 2011
    You know, when I was a kid, our family had one cell phone, and it stayed in the shared vehicle that us kids drove. It was to be used for emergencies only. :p

    The police may have to be involved to get the cell carrier to track it.
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  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited October 2011
    From what I have read - it doesn't sound like you will get much help on this. Do a google on this, and you will see that Apple's stance is not to get involved. It would be easy for them to track it being they control the syncing - but for some reason they choose not to. Sorry about your loss
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  • tonyb
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    edited October 2011
    Amazing isn't it ? When your a victim of a crime, tracing a call, or cell phone has a million hoops to jump through. If you commit a crime, they are all but willing to trace the criminals phone pronto.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited October 2011
    Police Report ?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited October 2011
    Had a similar thing happen to my son in the spring with an i-pod touch. Stolen from the locker room while he was out on the field. I made sure to file a report with the school intervention officer. Basically if he didn't set-up the tracking there is nothing you can do. Very frustrating and I know how you feel. :cool:
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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited October 2011
    Sorry, there are ways to track the phone but you won't get any help from your cell phone provider. There is no money in that.

    Your cell service provider is hoping you will now buy another phone at full rate, at the minimum you'll get another phone. They also hope that the person that now has the phone will sign up for service and they will create another revenue stream.

    Your best hope is file a police report and hopefully something will happen that you can get the phone back at a later time. (You might be able to get the phone ID from the cell provider if you didn't keep the paper work that came with the phone.)

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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited October 2011
    Why does a kid need an iPhone?

    Aside from that, file a police report....get a new phone.

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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited October 2011
    Kid should never have taken it to school imo...we tell all the kids here "if you bring it, it's your fault if it gets stolen".

    Now that I've got my "being an ****" out of the way...call the carrier and have them deactivate the phone. They have all the actual serial numbers and such, so if someone tried to reactivate it they should be able to find out and let you know.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2011
    TroyD wrote: »
    Why does a kid need an iPhone?
    BDT

    EXACTLY!
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    Edit: Unless he paid for it himself
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited October 2011
    TroyD wrote: »
    Why does a kid need an iPhone?
    BDT

    Very nice parents. :)
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    EXACTLY!
    -Cody

    Edit: Unless he paid for it himself

    Or, how about, "none of your business unless it's your kid"?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Or, how about, "none of your business unless it's your kid"?

    then dont post it up on the internet:rolleyes:
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited October 2011
    ryanjoachim wrote: »
    Kid should never have taken it to school imo...we tell all the kids here "if you bring it, it's your fault if it gets stolen".

    Now that I've got my "being an ****" out of the way...call the carrier and have them deactivate the phone. They have all the actual serial numbers and such, so if someone tried to reactivate it they should be able to find out and let you know.

    I thought the newest iphones are unlocked meaning they can be activated under other plans, not just the provider you're currently on. At least that was what I was told when I looked into getting the newest one. Not sure if the phone is a 4S ect as it wasn't stated but if thats true it might be harder to track as if he was on AT&T and the person then puts its on Sprint ect.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    then dont post it up on the internet:rolleyes:
    -Cody

    You're totally right, every time someone mentions their kids, you should totally judge their parenting. Classy.
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited October 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    You're totally right, every time someone mentions their kids, you should totally judge their parenting. Classy.
    It's no less classy than your constant judgements against other posters on this board. However, I realize by posting this (and therefore judging you) I am not acting in a classy manner either. Truth is, all human beings are flawed, and that includes you and me. You are no better than anyone else here, and neither am I. Get over yourself and quit trying to put others down by acting like you are somehow superior to the rest of us.
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    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited October 2011
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I thought the newest iphones are unlocked meaning they can be activated under other plans, not just the provider you're currently on. At least that was what I was told when I looked into getting the newest one. Not sure if the phone is a 4S ect as it wasn't stated but if thats true it might be harder to track as if he was on AT&T and the person then puts its on Sprint ect.

    While each provider has their own carrier-specific version of the iPhone, they all use the same identifying codes (IMEI, Serial, etc) and those codes are unique for each phone.
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
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    edited October 2011
    BeefJerky wrote: »
    It's no less classy than your constant judgements against other posters on this board. However, I realize by posting this (and therefore judging you) I am not acting in a classy manner either. Truth is, all human beings are flawed, and that includes you and me. You are no better than anyone else here, and neither am I. Get over yourself and quit trying to put others down by acting like you are somehow superior to the rest of us.

    Done lecturing me yet, dad? Sorry for having an opinion, I'll be sure to stay quiet from now on, lest I be too judgy for you.

    Just so I'm clear -
    Questioning someone's parenting just because they bought their kid what is essentially an expensive toy - OK by you.
    Calling that person out - makes me a horrible egomaniac who thinks he's better than everyone and needs to be dressed down.

    Makes total sense.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited October 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Amazing isn't it ? When your a victim of a crime, tracing a call, or cell phone has a million hoops to jump through. If you commit a crime, they are all but willing to trace the criminals phone pronto.

    Sister-in law was relieved of her Iphone at f#@king GUNPOINT and the cops would not turn the app on to track the scumbag!:evil: Something about there was no "imminent threat". What complete BS.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    You're totally right, every time someone mentions their kids, you should totally judge their parenting. Classy.

    what the hell did i say about his parenting?

    I dont think a kid should have an iphone. Do I think that makes someone a bad parent? Um, no.

    Way too read entirely too much from a single line of text. I guess I shouldn't expect less from the internet. My bad.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited October 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Sister-in law was relieved of her Iphone at f#@king GUNPOINT and the cops would not turn the app on to track the scumbag!:evil: Something about there was no "imminent threat". What complete BS.

    That's true though. It's not practical to trace each and every stolen phone. It's just a damn phone.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2011
    The problem with that being, if a phone gets stolen, ESPECIALLY at gun point, it's probably not the only crime they've committed.

    For something like a phone stolen in school, getting caught now might help them make better decisions later in life...but it might not...so...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited October 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    That's true though. It's not practical to trace each and every stolen phone. It's just a damn phone.

    Wrong on that one. It's an armed and dangerous FELON with a stolen phone that can be used to apprehend them. For law enforcement to not use it to bring them to justice is derilection of duty, PERIOD, plain and simple on that one.:evil:
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited October 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Done lecturing me yet, dad? Sorry for having an opinion, I'll be sure to stay quiet from now on, lest I be too judgy for you.
    Thank you so much for this polite and civilized response.
    Just so I'm clear -
    Questioning someone's parenting just because they bought their kid what is essentially an expensive toy - OK by you.
    No, you just (wrongly) inferred that. However, I don't see TroyD or exalted512 constantly making judgements against others, so I felt no need to admonish either of them over a single incident.
    Calling that person out - makes me a horrible egomaniac who thinks he's better than everyone and needs to be dressed down.
    No, what makes you come off as an "egomaniac who thinks he's better than everyone" is that you are repeatedly judging and reprimanding others. I check this board daily, and I don't think I've witnessed a single day that you haven't managed to judge or belittle another member.
    Makes total sense.
    In hindsight, I should not have made my previous post. I should not have participated in judging you or anyone else, and for that I apologize. Truthfully, I shouldn't even be attempting to defend and clarify myself here, however, it seems that I have somewhat sealed my fate with my initial post. This will be my last past on the subject.
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited October 2011
    considering you can get an iphone for free with a service contract, I'm not surprised the number of kids that have them. Especially with the advanced parental controls you can put on them.

    If I had kids, they'd probably have one.

    You ask what kid "needs" an iphone; The answer is the same as the number of adults that "need" them.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited October 2011
    newrival wrote: »
    considering you can get an iphone for free with a service contract, I'm not surprised the number of kids that have them. Especially with the advanced parental controls you can put on them.

    If I had kids, they'd probably have one.

    You ask what kid "needs" an iphone; The answer is the same as the number of adults that "need" them.

    I have no qualms about my kids having cell phones. And really, I'd have no qualms about my kids having iphones since the price has dropped so significantly. And I do understand the upside of the parental controls, but I dont see a need for a kid to have a data plan unless of course they're paying for it them self. Am I crazy over the fact that a kid should have a cell phone at all? I'm 50/50 on it. I guess I'll make up my mind when I have kids that are of age. Definitely when they're of driving age, before that...I dunno. It would depend on your personal situation, of which I know none about Mantis'.

    Do I think Mantis is less of a parent because of it? Obviously I do, according to Bobman.

    /sarcasm
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  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited October 2011
    Phone company won't locate it without a warrant signed by a judge.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2011
    To get back on track, Ryan mentioned some factual information earlier. Every phone has an MSN/EMEI/etc that is always transmitted as a part of the phone handshake with the network.

    This is perfect for finding your phone and easy to do when you have access to the network. The problem is that you will not get any help from the provider in this case. It's not legal for one and as mentioned previously, they don't have a vested interest to help you anyways. It's better to sell you a new phone.

    However, keep in mind that if you call and get this phone flagged, it's will be unuseable and the only thing they could do is resell it to someone who doesn't know any better. This has nothing to do with being locked or un-locked. That's different.

    Personally I'd pimp slap your boy and then hug him laughing, with a whiskey bottle in the other hand....but that's just me.

    Report the phone stolen, and move on.
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