RTi A7 plus Csi A6 with Pioneer vsx-1020k

Hannzz
Hannzz Posts: 34
edited October 2011 in Speakers
Hi Guys:

Wondering if Pioneer 1020K would be sufficient to drive these speakers RTi A7/CsiA6. Thanks
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited October 2011
    Hi Hannzz - welcome to Club Polk!

    I think one of the Pioneer SC series receivers would give you a better experience with those speakers, as it has better amps (ICE / Class D amps). Alternately, if you're budget constrained right now, go with a VSX model that has pre-outs, so you can maybe get an amp to sufficiently power at least the A7s in the future. Then you'll hear what those speakers are capable of.

    But I believe that people have been finding Pioneer Elite SC receivers new / used at good prices lately.

    The Rti A7s sound their best (dynamics, bass response) with lots of high current power. The 1020 will run them and the CSi a6, but just don't crazy with the volume.
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  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited October 2011
    Thanks for your comment. I can return pioneer 1020 back since I have 30 days return policy with best buy. How about Onkyo nr809. Later when I will more $$ can buy external amp. Thanks
  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited October 2011
    That is a pretty good avr. I have last years model. TX-NR808. It ran my RTI A7's really well. I believe the TX-NR709 or NR708 has pre outs as well, but you might check on that. The newer 9's have a wirelss usb adaptor for networking features where as the 8's have only a CAT 5.

    The 808 or 809 has a remote that can be programed by searching for exact make and model for different componets. No trying out different codes to see what works and what doesnt.

    I would recomend the 809. I would by one all over again.

    Where are you going to get the 809 from. You can get a referb from accessories 4 less for a pretty good price.

    809 for $680
    808 for $499
    709 for $499

    You can add on a 5 year warrenty for around 50 bucks.

    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/AVReceiver/Home-Audio/Home-Theater-Receivers/2.html
    AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
    Amplifier: Carver A-753x 250 watts x 3
    Fronts: Polk RTI A7 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Center: CSI A4 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Rear: FXI A4
    Sub: Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    TV: LG Infinia 50PX950 3D
    Speaker Cable: AudioQuest Type 8
    IC: AudioQuest Black Mamba II
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited October 2011
    +1 on that suggestion as well. Onkyos and Yamahas tend to offer pre-outs a lower price point than Denon and Pioneers.

    If you can find an Onkyo 708, that might be even cheaper and it supports 3D if you need it and has pre-outs.
    ALL BOXED UP for a while until I save up for a new place :(

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    2 Channel:
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited October 2011
    708 is $361 from accessories for less. But I still think I would rather have the 808 or 809. They at least have a push pull (AB i believe) amplifier design. Onkyo doesnt show the 709 as having that. I dont know why onkyo doesnt show the 709 as having one. I though a AB was a typical amplifer design.

    They do show the older 708 has having a push pull design. I don't know why the newer 709 doesnt show having that. But then again the newer 9's have 4K upscaling.


    The newer 9's are also supose to have 12v trigers where the older 8's only have a 12 volt triger for the zone 2. They also have MultiEq XT vs. the older 8's have MultiEq.

    The more I read about it the more I think I would want the newer 809
    AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
    Amplifier: Carver A-753x 250 watts x 3
    Fronts: Polk RTI A7 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Center: CSI A4 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Rear: FXI A4
    Sub: Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    TV: LG Infinia 50PX950 3D
    Speaker Cable: AudioQuest Type 8
    IC: AudioQuest Black Mamba II
  • rebuy
    rebuy Posts: 695
    edited October 2011
    Hannzz wrote: »
    Hi Guys:

    Wondering if Pioneer 1020K would be sufficient to drive these speakers RTi A7/CsiA6. Thanks

    I don't know about the 1020 but the 1021 only puts out 46 WPC in 5.1 mode. I would be very careful trying to drive RTI A7's with that receiver.
  • BtrSound
    BtrSound Posts: 123
    edited October 2011
    I would get the 1120 at least. It has pre amp outputs so if you decide to add an amplifier you do not have to buy a brand new receiver.
  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited October 2011
    I decided to go with Onkyo 809. Currently, looking for a sale.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2011
    Welcome to Club Polk!

    Onkyos are nice units, I run one myself. But be 'careful' about the heat over the HDMI boards. Give them 'a lot' of breathing space above and maybe even consider a small 'cooling' fan!

    Enjoy!

    cnh
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  • SRTer
    SRTer Posts: 372
    edited October 2011
    Hannzz wrote: »
    I decided to go with Onkyo 809. Currently, looking for a sale.
    cnh wrote: »
    Welcome to Club Polk!

    Onkyos are nice units, I run one myself. But be 'careful' about the heat over the HDMI boards. Give them 'a lot' of breathing space above and maybe even consider a small 'cooling' fan!

    Enjoy!

    cnh

    I'm sure you will like the RTi A7's and CSi A6 with the Onkyo. Cnh is correct about heat and Onkyo. There have been recalls and people upset about reliability.

    If your AVR works well, I think you will be happy enough not to run out and get a amp right of the back. However, a amp is prefered for RTi A7's.
    Fronts: Polk RTi A9
    Center: Polk CSI A6
    Rears: Polk RTi A7
    Receiver: Pioneer Elite SC-35 (140 watts x 7)
    Amplifier: Adcom GFA-555 Mk.II (200 watt @ 8 ohms)
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO 500 (10 inch, 200 Watt)
    TV: Samsung 59 inch 3D Plasma 600 Hz PN59D7000
    Sources: Samsung BD-D6700 3D Blu-ray Player, DirecTV, PS3, iPhone 4 and IPod Classic with Apple Lossless Tracks
  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited October 2011
    Wasn't it the older TX-NRxx5's that had the HDMI board issues. I know the TX-NRxx8's have had issues with a bad ribbon cable causing the front pannel / remote control to be come non responsive, or randomly changings things.

    I had this happen to me. Onkyo took care of it though. They sent me a shipping box, and packing along with a pre paid lable. They will take care of the problem regardless of warrenty status. That being said I would still buy another Onkyo.
    AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
    Amplifier: Carver A-753x 250 watts x 3
    Fronts: Polk RTI A7 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Center: CSI A4 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Rear: FXI A4
    Sub: Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    TV: LG Infinia 50PX950 3D
    Speaker Cable: AudioQuest Type 8
    IC: AudioQuest Black Mamba II
  • JustinHEMI
    JustinHEMI Posts: 198
    edited October 2011
    Hannzz wrote: »
    I decided to go with Onkyo 809. Currently, looking for a sale.

    Newegg has it for 679 right now.
    Fronts: Polk RTi A9's
    Center: Polk CSi A6
    Surrounds: Polk FXi A6
    Sub: Epik Empire
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-NR809
    Amp: Emotiva XPA-3
    Blu Ray: Panasonic DMP-BD210
    Power: Monster HDP 2500
    Monitor: Panasonic TC-P60ST30
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited October 2011
    Find a used Pioneer Elite SC model. Any one will do. This will drive them much better then all receivers listed above. You will experience them wonderfully with the SC at the helm.
    This is a perfect match.
    Dan
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