Why does this bother people?

Mr. Sharpe
Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
edited September 2011 in The Clubhouse
There are plenty of one-star reviews on AudioQuest cables and other high end brand cable company's like that that cost $300+ on Amazon and they all say things like "If you bought this you fell for the scam" or "if you buy one of these you should be kicked in the butt", things like that and that's usually all the one-star reviews ever say. "you got scammed" or "this is overpriced" blah blah. whereas all the 5 star reviews praise these cables of course.

I highly doubt I'll ever buy a 3 ft. cable for $400 but what I'm askin why does it bother people so much that somebody else does buy them? How does it effect them?

So what is it? are people simply jealous that somebody else has the money to put into one of these cables and have even more money in their homes and such?

Or is it that people really get off on complaining about random things?

I know not to ask if cables really matter already lol
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Emotiva MC-700 Processor
Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
Parasound Zamp Amplifier
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Klipsch RC-10 Center
Klipsch R34c Fronts
Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
Polk audio PSW-505

Stereo:
Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
Parasound P6 Preamplifer
Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
    It might bother them because they feel cables don't make a difference while others claim a huge difference.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited September 2011
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

    The world will never know.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited September 2011
    It's the internet .....who's to say these asshats ever tried the said cable,or they might work for a competeing cable company.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited September 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

    The world will never know.


    I got laugh out of it. :biggrin:

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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited September 2011
    You should only be able to review a product after 30-60 days of purchase. That way you have had time to time to actually try it out. No impulse good reviews because it showed up undamaged only to have it break a month later.

    Amazon doenst requre you to even have purchased an item to review it. So they pretty much have no credibility.
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  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited September 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

    The world will never know.

    One...two...three...crack, crunch...three :tongue:

    Ahhh, the good 'ol days when life was carefree, and all you had to do was lick something for a sticky, chewy surprise :smile:
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,354
    edited September 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    It's the internet .....who's to say these asshats ever tried the said cable,or they might work for a competeing cable company.

    They don't actually ever use or purchase the cables.
    jbooker82 wrote: »
    You should only be able to review a product after 30-60 days of purchase. That way you have had time to time to actually try it out. No impulse good reviews because it showed up undamaged only to have it break a month later.

    Amazon doenst requre you to even have purchased an item to review it. So they pretty much have no credibility.

    I know, I was just using Amazon as an example.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited September 2011
    stuwee wrote: »
    :tongue:

    Ahhh, the good 'ol days when life was carefree, and all you had to do was lick something for a sticky, chewy surprise :smile:

    I could have sworn we had a don't ask/don't tell policy in force here at CP?:eek::biggrin::tongue:
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2011
    There are only 2 people that tell me how to spend MY money. ME & ME!
    Michael ;)
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2011
    I am and very happy at that. So is she. So is our son.
    I have never seen her signature on my pay and until I do...
    Michael ;)
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited September 2011
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    With respect to exotic cables - a fool and their money soon part. But why offer advise to fools?

    You may get burned if you put your hand into a fire and you don't need to look both ways when crossing the street.

    But don't believe me, because I said it. Experience it for yourself to find out. You won't really know until you've tried it. Right?

    Keiko can send you a love letter to console your pain. If he is really a friend I'm sure he will throw in a set of MIT cables to dull the pain. I hear they have healing properties too. I know in England they work for weight loss because there are plently of people saying they lost several pounds after getting those cables. Wonders never cease. :wink:

    I can't help but sense a stern sarcastic tone with your post. If you like your garbage $100 Monster cables or $4 lamp cord then why hate on other people who have legitimate inquiries?
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited September 2011
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    I know in England they work for weight loss because there are plently of people saying they lost several pounds after getting those cables.

    Heck with all the $hit your full of you could lose like 30+ lbs just by shutting up.

    We are all aware of your take on cables. Hell we may as well have Club Polk auto insert your comments into any discussion on cables....
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,007
    edited September 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    \\\\\\\\\\\\////////////

    Classic right there!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    Everyone needs their 15 minutes of fame and writing negative, baseless reviews on the internet seems to be the best way to get it. None of those types of people ever go into details like how long they used the cables, what they listened for, how they compare to other cables, their methodology, type of gear they used them on, etc, etc. Just a couple vague, negative sentences with buzz words intended to have impact and to insense.

    Frankly, I'd like to see a site like Amazon not accept reviews like those for any product. They are of absolutely no value whatsover and anyone who actually reads a review for any product like the one the OP describes and takes it seriously and uses it to influence their own purchase is a moron.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2011
    Mediocre equipment commands mediocre cables.
    Michael ;)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Heck with all the $hit your full of you could lose like 30+ lbs just by shutting up.
    (refering to Xcapri)

    Quote of the day :biggrin:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2011
    janmike wrote: »
    I am and very happy at that. So is she. So is our son.
    I have never seen her signature on my pay and until I do...

    However Mike, the reason that you are and have a successful marriage is because you know to take care of your family & responsibilities first before you splurge on a toy!

    It's the fools who do it the other way around that end up in divorce court.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited September 2011
    cfrizz wrote: »
    However Mike, the reason that you are and have a successful marriage is because you know to take care of your family & responsibilities first before you splurge on a toy!

    It's the fools who do it the other way around that end up in divorce court.

    Thanks. That is totally true. They come first in my life and then I play. In the end, everyone is happy. I think I need to listen to some music tonight.
    Michael ;)
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited September 2011
    Anyone wanna peanut?
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2011
    Giving the people in question the benefit of the doubt, they honestly believe that you are being ripped off, and are trying to protect you from it. The real question is why do you so strongly dislike someone who, however misguided, has your best interest at heart?
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited September 2011
    russman wrote: »
    how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop?
    Forty-two.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Giving the people in question the benefit of the doubt, they honestly believe that you are being ripped off, and are trying to protect you from it. The real question is why do you so strongly dislike someone who, however misguided, has your best interest at heart?

    Really, so when someone states "these suck don't waste your money" that's helpful to someone else? That kind of statement about any product isn't helpful, it's written to be somewhat inflammitory. An honest answer would have reasons why someone shouldn't waste their money and also a little background about how the product was used, and perhaps some other user experiences that relate to the product that "sucks", etc.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2011
    Like I said, that's giving people the benefit of the doubt. Some folks are just trolls, but I can't imagine the OP was asking "what's the deal with trolls."

    I think at least SOME people who write these reviews legitimately believe that the people selling these "overpriced" cables are scam artists, and the people buying them are "being scammed."
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,501
    edited September 2011
    Heck with all the $hit your full of you could lose like 30+ lbs just by shutting up.

    Nail, head, hammer...that kinda thing.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited September 2011
    Another boring cable war :cool: I've bought all kinds of speaker cables and interconnects, some sounded exactly the same, others revealed startling contrast. It doesn't matter what the naysayers are fighting for, let them save their money, good for them, I'm gonna keep trying all kinds of experiment, good for me (because I believe so) :tongue:
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited September 2011
    I put ketchup on my cables because hot dogs are too damned expensive!

    And you kids better stay the hell off my lawn!
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,602
    edited September 2011
    janmike wrote: »
    Mediocre equipment commands mediocre cables.

    Well he does use PA amplifiers in his "rig" and thinks we are all stupid for not doing the same. :rolleyes:
    --Gary--
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,222
    edited September 2011
    Same Clown different day...
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,493
    edited September 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie Pop?

    The world will never know.

    Biters don't need any licks....they just.......bite.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2011
    I submit that it is because they fear we may be right.
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