Going from Polk to Def Tech Mythos feedbacks please

Dannieboiz
Dannieboiz Posts: 242
edited September 2011 in Speakers
My systems is listed in the sig. Thinking of swapping them out for the following Mythos

Fronts Mythos One
Center Mythos Three (eventually upgrade to Eight)
Surrounds Mythos six (upgrade to GEM XL down the road.
Sub. MartinLogan : Dynamo 10" Cube

Do u think that's a good trade off?
Sammy UN55C6400
Onkyo TX-SR875
Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
Velodyne DPS-12
MartinLogan Dynamo 10
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited September 2011
    Mythos are superior to RT series speakers in every way. It's not a bad system you are putting together but why buy speakers twice in the same system. Forget about the rears for now and buy the mythos 8 center now. It's the correct center and will sound perfect with your Mythos 1 mains which by the way I love those speakers. They are nice and very musical. punch and clear.
    As far as rears , Mythos 8's again , forget about the 6 and Gems , yes they are nice but not as balanced as having 8's all around. Basically the 1's are 8's in a floor standing model. Synergy like a MO FO.
    Sub the Dynamo is a very nice unit. Buy 2 of them and even out your room coverage. I'm all about 2 subs in a room as you can have much better coverage then just 1.

    As far as a good trade off? I'm not into trade off's , all of nothing my friend . You only life once and when you get that system up and running you will be Inviting me over for a movie Beer and Pizza.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited September 2011
    the reason for this setup is because I found someone selling that package used. I was thinking if I can get a decent price for all that ~1500 I can sell the pieces and get the correct ones. I don't have room for floor speakers in the rear so the GEM would have to do.
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited September 2011
    8's are wall mounted speakers as the center and rears would be exactly the same. if you can get that system you posted for that deal , jump my man then build it right later and sell off the 3 and 6's.

    Good luck with your system.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
    Me like Mythos. Me think they're much better than RTI's. Me think you'll be very happy.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
    If I can be honest with you. I personally think the Mythos line with give you much more clarity over the RTI but I think you'll get a fuller, bigger sound from that CSI 5 center. That Mythos center just isnt good IMO. If it was my money I'd start with a pair of Mythos STS's or the new BP series and add a BP CS8080 or CS8060 for the center down the road. The BP series match very well with the Mythos and will give you a much more cleaner fuller presentation than the csi 5 or the Mythos center ever could.
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited September 2011
    leroyjr1 - Are the Def Tech tweeters a little more neutral than the RTi's?
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
    PrazVT wrote: »
    leroyjr1 - Are the Def Tech tweeters a little more neutral than the RTi's?

    Yes, much more neutral. The older BP series are bright IMO but the new stuff is much better.
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited September 2011
    Yes, much more neutral. The older BP series are bright IMO but the new stuff is much better.

    Hmm.. cool. Yeah those new BP-8080STs look intriguing as well.
    ALL BOXED UP for a while until I save up for a new place :(

    Home Theater:
    KEF Q900s / MIT Shotgun S3 / MIT CVT2 ICs | KEF Q600C | Polk FXi5 | BJC Wire | Signal / AQ ICs | Shunyata / Pangea PCs | Pioneer Elite SC 57 | Parasound NC2100 Pre | NAD M25 | Marantz SA8001 | Schiit Gungnir DAC | SB Touch

    2 Channel:
    Polk LSi9 (xo mods), Polk DSW MicroPro 2000 sub | NAD c375BEE | W4S DAC1 | SB Touch | Marantz SA-8001 | MIT AVt 2 | Kimber Hero / AQ / Signal ICs | Shunyata / Signal PCs
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,791
    edited September 2011
    I would love to hear the new BP series 8000 series -

    I have seen them at Magnolia a few times, I just cant get over that everything is plastic.

    Bleh.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
    I would love to hear the new BP series 8000 series -

    I have seen them at Magnolia a few times, I just cant get over that everything is plastic.

    Bleh.

    Just the decorative top and bottom caps are plastic.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,791
    edited September 2011
    I know...

    I would say in the market Def Tech is in they by far have the "cheapest" to produce finish ever - grill cloth and high gloss black tops and bottoms. Other brands offer premium wood finishes or all high gloss black (PAINTED MDF) and Def Tech has chosen to take the one thing that was "expensive" on their finish and made it plastic...

    Just seems like something that was not needed to be cut back.

    They also went from 1" medite wood panels for their front and rear baffles to 1/2" MDF sandwiched together.

    Just seems odd that they are cutting costs on their product the way they are.

    Like older series that still used MDF tops they switched to a vinyl wrapped high gloss black top to cut cost.

    Def Tech is in a higher end bracket and just seems they are giving up some quality - I dont know of any way to clean shiney black plastic without the finish micro scratching...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited September 2011
    Thanks everyone, I'm pleased to say that I now have the mentioned component sitting in my living room. I ripped out the RTi in a hurry to get the Mythos in. As you all have said, they are extremely musical. The center does seems lacking. I have not hooked up the rears yet but I think They would do the trick for awhile. I think what I'm going to focus on is upgrading the Three to the Eight and may even leave the Six as the surrounds.

    The Martin Logan Cube is extremely tight sounding, a lot less boomy compared to my Velo DPS-12 but I feel that it is being over powered by the Mythos Ones alone.

    Would you recommend going two different subs since I already have the Velo. If it's worth it, I might consider buying another matching ML cube and put them at the two front corners.

    At the same time, I think it's time to let go of my Onkyo 875. The sound is now too harsh for my liking. I'm thinking it's time to move up the ladder and go with separates. I'm eyeing and Adcom GFA-7605 and since I need to have HDMI switching, instead of getting a pre-amp maybe I can buy an el cheapo Denon AVR and use it as a pre-amp. whaddaya think?
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2011
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited September 2011
    Dannieboiz wrote: »
    Thanks everyone, I'm pleased to say that I now have the mentioned component sitting in my living room. I ripped out the RTi in a hurry to get the Mythos in. As you all have said, they are extremely musical. The center does seems lacking. I have not hooked up the rears yet but I think They would do the trick for awhile. I think what I'm going to focus on is upgrading the Three to the Eight and may even leave the Six as the surrounds.

    The Martin Logan Cube is extremely tight sounding, a lot less boomy compared to my Velo DPS-12 but I feel that it is being over powered by the Mythos Ones alone.

    Would you recommend going two different subs since I already have the Velo. If it's worth it, I might consider buying another matching ML cube and put them at the two front corners.

    At the same time, I think it's time to let go of my Onkyo 875. The sound is now too harsh for my liking. I'm thinking it's time to move up the ladder and go with separates. I'm eyeing and Adcom GFA-7605 and since I need to have HDMI switching, instead of getting a pre-amp maybe I can buy an el cheapo Denon AVR and use it as a pre-amp. whaddaya think?

    I'm assuming your room is on the larger size if the Dynamo isn't doing the job.
    Def Tech supercubes rock and are super powerful. For that system I would get a Supercube II or I . Running 2 Supercube II's would be Ideal and super badass.
    Another Idea would be running 2 Velodyne DD10's.
    As far as powering them , there is a few Pioneer Elite SC models floating around on this forum. I suggest you get one of them . They are a perfect match for Mythos speakers and all you will ever need to power them.

    Nice system coming together here.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited September 2011
    The csi5 is hard to beat and dont forget the center is the most important speaker in the Ht setup
  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited September 2011
    My room is actually very small, 13x11 ish. I think I'm so used to the boomy sound of the Velo that the dynamo doesn't sound as loud or probably because I have not tucked it in the corner yet. I tested it while it was sitting forward more towards the middle of the room. I'll be doing my final install today then recalibrate the AVR for more accurate sound.

    I spoke to DT today and they recommended going with mythos 9 as centers if I can swing it.
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
  • jawhog
    jawhog Posts: 444
    edited September 2011
    I run dual dynamos and they are fabulous sounding, but lack that last little bit of really substantial bottom end for home theater. They sound full and musical and the room can get pressurized even at low volumes (which is great for low volume night movie watching).

    First, I had one dynamo in each of two different systems. When I upgraded one system, I just made the dynamos into roommates. As much as I like it, my setup is more by accident than a planned event. A used dynamo is about $300. So when you look at how the $600 worth of dynamos might compare to a ported hsu or svs, I think the value is not quite there. However, since you already have one, if you like the look and size (which I really do - I think the two small boxes are much easier to look at than one big one), then it might be worth it to try.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited September 2011
    Mantis (Dan), knows these speakers very well. I'd listen to whatever advice he has. They're certainly a nice set!

    Enjoy the new set up. But watch out for Polk LSI-Ms (the 'Return'). lol

    cnh
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  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited September 2011
    This is probably not recommended but I planning on running both the velo and the ml. The ml in the corner and the velo on the other end where it isn't a corner. my thinking is the velo will provide the lows th ml is missing and if I tune it a bit lower than the ml I won't loe the accuraccy of the ml. Problem is the onkyo 875 doesn't have 2 sub out so I gotta use a y splitter then manually tune the velo.
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10