Testing equipment

cokewithvanilla
cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
edited September 2011 in Troubleshooting
A while ago, I seemed to notice there was a lack of low frequencies on the left side of my system. At first, I blamed the room. I have since moved my speakers into a pretty ideal room, and still have the same issue.

I would like to make sure this is my ears and not my equipment.

The vocals seem to be in the right place, but there seems to be more sound on the right side. A while ago, someone mentioned testing voltage on the amp outs to make sure everything is matching. Considering my equipment is pretty old, I probably want to do this. How do I go about it? What other things should I look for when checking out my equipment?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2011
    Just switch the left and right speakers. Change nothing else. Does the issue follow the speaker or does it stay the same?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited August 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Just switch the left and right speakers. Change nothing else. Does the issue follow the speaker or does it stay the same?

    Sorry, I forgot to mention that I have switched the speakers before with the same result. I will switch them tomorrow along with any other tests I do (like flopping cables and channels and what not)

    Last time I checked this out, I flopped amplifier channels (I believe) and the problem went over to the other side. I don't trust my memory, so I will do this again tomorrow. I was kind of hoping to get some hard evidence... I remember someone saying about using a multimeter to test voltage.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2011
    Start again if you don't mind. Troubleshooting is hard enough online as it is. Lets eliminate some things as we move along.

    Next thing you want to try again is the swapping of the RCA outs on your source and nothing else. Same question applies. Does the sound follow the speaker or does it stay the same?

    Just be sure to do one thing at a time. Thanks.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited August 2011
    Man, I've tried for an hour and I can't hear it today... I need to test it when it bothers me again. If it keeps coming and going I'm gonna have to further question my hearing.
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited August 2011
    Switched speakers. No difference
    Switched channels on dac. opposite
    Switched Channels on Amp. opposite
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited August 2011
    Switched speakers. No difference
    Switched channels on dac. opposite
    Switched Channels on Amp. opposite
    Treitz3 has asked you a question and you have to be accurate and specific in your answer(s) (as pointed out, it is very hard to help troubleshooting online).

    When you say no difference when you switched the speakers; do you mean problem stays on the same side (channel) or do you mean problem stays with the speaker despite the switch???
    Man, I've tried for an hour and I can't hear it today... I need to test it when it bothers me again. If it keeps coming and going I'm gonna have to further question my hearing.
    The above statement may lead to an intermittent connection (be cable which you swapped or even connector at of some of the equipment could also point to intermittent problem within the speaker (specific mid driver)).
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2011
    What sources are you using?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    What sources are you using?

    Sorry, I forgot about this thread.

    When I said "no difference" I meant just that, no difference at all. The sound did not move to the other side. Opposite meant that it did.

    I am using Computer>HRT Music Streamer II>Aragon 24k>Adcom 5800>Tyler Acoustics monitors
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2011
    Ok, this is all very unscientific, so I just tried something. I used the same cables for each test, unplugging all other cables. I ran one speaker at a time using various configurations. I would try using the left channel of the amp versus the right, using the left output of the pre versus the right. I kept the source on the left channel at all times seeing as it is stereo output. Here were my results:

    Amp Left, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Left = 71.6

    Amp Left, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Left = 70.8

    Amp Right, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Left = 70.8

    Amp Right, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Left = 71.2




    Amp Left, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72.1

    Amp Left, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72

    Amp Right, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72.3

    Amp Right, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Right = 71.7

    The reading is the HIGHEST point in the passage. I used the track Zakarum from the Diablo II soundtrack. I played from 1 minute to one minute 21 one for each test.

    I then simply switched the speakers for one test (I accidentally adjusted the volume a bit here)

    Right Speaker on Right side = 75.1
    Right Speaker on Left side = 74.1
  • kolbywhite28
    kolbywhite28 Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    is it fixed now? have you figured it out already?
  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited September 2011
    Ok, this is all very unscientific, so I just tried something. I used the same cables for each test, unplugging all other cables. I ran one speaker at a time using various configurations. I would try using the left channel of the amp versus the right, using the left output of the pre versus the right. I kept the source on the left channel at all times seeing as it is stereo output. Here were my results:

    Amp Left, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Left = 71.6

    Amp Left, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Left = 70.8

    Amp Right, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Left = 70.8

    Amp Right, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Left = 71.2




    Amp Left, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72.1

    Amp Left, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72

    Amp Right, Pre Left, Source Left, Speaker Right = 72.3

    Amp Right, Pre Right, Source Left, Speaker Right = 71.7

    The reading is the HIGHEST point in the passage. I used the track Zakarum from the Diablo II soundtrack. I played from 1 minute to one minute 21 one for each test.

    I then simply switched the speakers for one test (I accidentally adjusted the volume a bit here)

    Right Speaker on Right side = 75.1
    Right Speaker on Left side = 74.1

    Maybe I missed it but what's your unit of measure here? Measured db? What is the accuracy repeatability of your measuring device? Making a lot of assumptions, I would say your results weren't too bad, with the emphasis on "assumptions". Also not familiar with the source you are using, but I have had some recordings that were not mixed the best in the studio.