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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    So using that Adcom 5400 with HK254 should be good with RTi10's? Will this setup allow me to run a little higher volumes without causing damage to the speakers? Thanks
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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2011
    RodneyWoodford wrote: »
    So using that Adcom 5400 with HK254 should be good with RTi10's? Will this setup allow me to run a little higher volumes without causing damage to the speakers? Thanks

    The simple answer is yes.

    The main worry with just the HK isn't really the volume it's clipping. Pushing an amplifier to its edge of what it can is bad because of the clipped signal that come out of it.

    By adding an amp, the HK will be used mainly as a Pre / Pro for this pair of speakers. The amp will be supplying the power. I suspect that your actual volume setting will be reduced for the listening level you are seeking (compared to what it would be with the HK).

    Scott
    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa
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  • SRTer
    SRTer Posts: 372
    edited August 2011
    RodneyWoodford wrote: »
    So using that Adcom 5400 with HK254 should be good with RTi10's? Will this setup allow me to run a little higher volumes without causing damage to the speakers? Thanks

    Seems like a soild 125 watts, that is not bad at all. That will beat out many AVR's. The RTi10's will sound better and give a noticeable increase in volume because you have more than doubled the power going to them.

    If the price is right, do it.
    Fronts: Polk RTi A9
    Center: Polk CSI A6
    Rears: Polk RTi A7
    Receiver: Pioneer Elite SC-35 (140 watts x 7)
    Amplifier: Adcom GFA-555 Mk.II (200 watt @ 8 ohms)
    Sub: Polk DSW PRO 500 (10 inch, 200 Watt)
    TV: Samsung 59 inch 3D Plasma 600 Hz PN59D7000
    Sources: Samsung BD-D6700 3D Blu-ray Player, DirecTV, PS3, iPhone 4 and IPod Classic with Apple Lossless Tracks
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    Thanks guys!
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    I think the reason I'm not getting volume here is because of the size of room. It's 12x28 x 14 ft ceiling so it may be hard to fill up. I'm using a 5.1 setup in my den 12x16 useing 2RM8's , RM 8 center and 2 RM7's as surround with a 50watt sub Run by a sony 775 watt avr. it's actually seems louder than the living room.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited August 2011
    1st the amp should make a huge improvement in projected sound. It will also sure up the mids and lows for those speakers. Something receivers seem to miss. The room size is a big hurdle but not insurmountable. A couple quick questions.

    How far from the speakers do you sit?

    How far apart from each other are the speakers?

    Is there a wall directly behind the listening position or is there space?

    12x28 is like a cavern especially with a 14ft ceiling. Which way are you setup? Speakers in the 12ft wall or 28ft wall?
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    Speakers are on the 12ft wall with the couch 14ft from the fronts and 14 ft open behind
    the couch. the ceiling actually slopes from 8ft to the left up to 14 ft to the right with a open hull up at that level.
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  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    With all this amp talk, im curious about how much they actually cost. The lowest i've seen is like $800!
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    Was trying to upload pics but not sure how.
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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2011
    RodneyWoodford wrote: »
    Was trying to upload pics but not sure how.

    Hit the Go Advanced Button.

    Down below the text box for replies, in additional options, is a button for manage attachments. Click the button and you get a pop up that will let you upload images.

    Scott
    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa
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  • Gadabout
    Gadabout Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    With all this amp talk, im curious about how much they actually cost. The lowest i've seen is like $800!

    Think Used, half the price

    Scott
    Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. ..... Frank Zappa
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    Here's the Room I'm trying to fill. It's like 14ft from the front speakers or 17ft from wall behind speakers, and 10-11ft behind me. ceiling slopes from left side 8ft up to top of hallway 14ft.
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  • HTguru1982
    HTguru1982 Posts: 1,066
    edited August 2011
    Wow, that's a lot of space. And I thought my room was large. Your HK wasn't designed to fill a room like that. One thing that might help is to move the couch closer to the screen. That will help a little. An amp really will do wonders in a space like that.
    Display: Sony 42" LCD
    Sources: Harman Kardon DVD-27,
    Panasonic DMP-BDT110 blu ray player
    AVR: Sony STR-DA2400ES
    Amps: Sonance Sonamp 260(fronts),
    Kenwood KM-894(surrounds)
    Fronts: NHT 2.5
    Center: NHT VS-1.2A
    Surrounds: NHT Super One
    Subwoofer: SVS PB10-ISD
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  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    HTguru1982 wrote: »
    One thing that might help is to move the couch closer to the screen.

    agreed, you definitely need your couch to be wayyyyy closer than it is right now.
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  • RodneyWoodford
    RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
    edited August 2011
    Wife won't agree with that. lol
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,685
    edited August 2011
    RodneyWoodford wrote: »
    Wife won't agree with that. lol

    She only left you with one option then, bigger TV and Amps!! :biggrin:

    Just tell her it's all her fault. It should go over well.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited August 2011
    I would spread the Mains apart also. At least a foot wider per side. You have them focused at such a small angle that you will never get a true sound stage from there. I would almost corner them and angle them into the room.

    I would also inch the couch closer a little everyday or so until it is in the sweet spot. If you do it slow enough the Wife will never know. :)

    I bet that ups the ante a ton.

    By the way, Nice room. Looks comfy.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,015
    edited August 2011
    Agreed with above comments. Split the difference Rodney. Move the TV,speakers,rack, one foot out more from the wall, move the couch 1 foot closer, and get rid of the chair in the corner. Spread those speakers out at least an additional foot on each side. The 12's will need some juice to fill that room bro. Heck, you need a bus transfer to view that TV from that distance.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,990
    edited August 2011
    double ditto on amp* & room setup ideas. Consider an area rug between the couch & and LCR.
    * my 80 watt Belles will "lift" my RTi A7s "off the ground"
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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