amp?

stogs

Do I need a amp? Receiver: yamaha rx v363, front: rti12, center: csi5, rears: r15, sub: psw404. Would i just need a amp for the fronts? The system sounds great but should i take some stress off the receiver. Thanks!!

Systems

Check out Emotiva's amps..They are having a good sale going on right now..i have two UPA-1's mono block's..There XPA-3 is on sale too..they are 200 watts into 8 ohms..I luv my UPA-1's!..They really open up the sound stage on my Polk Monitor 70's..

steveinaz

I've said it before, and I'll say it again---w/used Parasound HCA-1500's going for under $500 bucks, it's a no brainer. You'll have to spend 4 times that price to begin to surpass it.

Conservatively rated at:
205 watts/8ohms
325watts/4ohms
60amps of current
First 15watts class A, then switches to A/B
Bridgeable for 8ohm loads
Pre out loop jacks for easy sub integration

Read the reviews, it's universally respected, especially at it's $995 retail price. I'm not saying this because I own one, I'm saying it because it's a fact.

audiocr381ve

ctank wrote: »

Check out Emotiva's amps..They are having a good sale going on right now..i have two UPA-1's mono block's..There XPA-3 is on sale too..they are 200 watts into 8 ohms..I luv my UPA-1's!..They really open up the sound stage on my Polk Monitor 70's..

Having more power is gonna wake your fronts up with a splash of increase in dynamics and low end. Emotiva amps are an incredible value, just be warned this isn't the place to ask (or even talk) about them.

Google is your friend, search for reviews on their amps.

heiney9

Power isn't everything, anyone who tells you it is the be all, end all to fix audio related problems doesn't understand the hobby very well.

Emo is decent bang for your buck, entry level HT gear. You can get better sounding gear if you're willing to look at some used gear. Some don't like to buy used gear and can't afford the used manufacturer's if they were to buy it new.

Emo is decent for HT, and not so good for serious music listening. They have a 30 day return policy that is a bit of a PITA and they may even give you some flak about it, but that's the best way to try it.

H9

Almadacr

heiney9 wrote: »

Power isn't everything, anyone who tells you it is the be all, end all to fix audio related problems doesn't understand the hobby very well.

Emo is decent bang for your buck, entry level HT gear. You can get better sounding gear if you're willing to look at some used gear. Some don't like to buy used gear and can't afford the used manufacturer's if they were to buy it new.

Emo is decent for HT, and not so good for serious music listening. They have a 30 day return policy that is a bit of a PITA and they may even give you some flak about it, but that's the best way to try it.

H9

I don`t know if i can agree totally with your statement :rolleyes:

audiocr381ve

Almadacr wrote: »

I don`t know if i can agree totally with your statement :rolleyes:

Don't say that dude. For some people around here disagreeing with them is as bad as taking their wife on a date. Watch yourself.

heiney9

Almadacr wrote: »

I don`t know if i can agree totally with your statement :rolleyes:

By all means be as obtuse as possible. :rolleyes:

Care to offer even a couple sentences of explanation? Or is that too much to ask?

H9

heiney9

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Don't say that dude. For some people around here disagreeing with them is as bad as taking their wife on a date. Watch yourself.

I'm being totally honest and consistent in my point of view and opinions. Not sure I can say the same about you with your wishy washy posts. I take it you don't agree with me, but it's ok to take shots at me, but I'm supposed to refrain from taking them at you?

Perhaps you could discuss why you disagree, with some well thought out points, instead of acting like a child, running around the board making childish comments.

H9

heiney9

To the OP,

You have given almost nothing for us to go on as far as room size, use, type of music or movies, etc, etc. But based on your receiver and speakers you'll probably be fine with the receiver you have, but could probably benefit from gear like Emotiva.

H9

cnh

I could be wrong, but a Yamaha 363 probably does not have any pre-outs for an external power amp so you'd need a new AVR as well there!

I can't see how you're even powering that speaker set with that AVR--not enough juice for the RTI-12s?

cnh

heiney9

Good call cnh, I didn't bother to even look up the receiver, I assumed if he's asking about an amp that he would atleast have a receiver with pre-outs. You are correct to get the best from RTi-12's you will need something more than a receiver.

H9

Almadacr

heiney9 wrote: »

By all means be as obtuse as possible. :rolleyes:

Care to offer even a couple sentences of explanation? Or is that too much to ask?

H9

The thing is when they are running lets say 5 channels for a HT use ( i am using as reference the XPA-5 ) they do pretty good , as music on 5 channels since music is dynamic , the surrounds were not performing as good as the mains , but with 2 channel`s they put to shame some class A amps that go for 3000$ and plus !!!! If your system is used mainly for movie enjoyment and some music , hell yeah they are great performers like the Outlaws , and they don`t make a hole in your wallet . I heard these amps with several models of speakers using BR , SACD , and vinyl .

heiney9

Almadacr wrote: »

The thing is when they are running lets say 5 channels for a HT use ( i am using as reference the XPA-5 ) they do pretty good , as music on 5 channels since music is dynamic , the surrounds were not performing as good as the mains , but with 2 channel`s they put to shame some class A amps that go for 3000$ and plus !!!! If your system is used mainly for movie enjoyment and some music , hell yeah they are great performers like the Outlaws , and they don`t make a hole in your wallet . I heard these amps with several models of speakers using BR , SACD , and vinyl .

Ok, you have your opinion and having heard Emo and Outlaw I couldn't DISAGREE more. What $3K+ Class A amps have you heard that are so shameful the Emo XPA5 and Outlaws put them to shame?

That's a very HUGE statement that puts a large amount of suspicion on your motives and actual time in the audio hobby.

Again, you absolutely entitled to your opinion, but now it's time to back it up in detail since I think most who actually have spent a lot time in this hobby, critically listening to a lot of gear might disagree with you.

But hey, we don;t all have to agree, do we?

H9

audiocr381ve

heiney9 wrote: »

Power isn't everything, anyone who tells you it is the be all, end all to fix audio related problems doesn't understand the hobby very well.

Emo is decent bang for your buck, entry level HT gear. You can get better sounding gear if you're willing to look at some used gear. Some don't like to buy used gear and can't afford the used manufacturer's if they were to buy it new.

Emo is decent for HT, and not so good for serious music listening. They have a 30 day return policy that is a bit of a PITA and they may even give you some flak about it, but that's the best way to try it.

H9

Was I the first to take a shot here? You're the one who indirectly insults me 24/7 broham!

heiney9

Yeah, you're right I've been stating that exact mantra for about 2 years now in dozens and dozens of threads, making my point, giving specific examples and you think it's aimed squarely at you...........as if your presence here for such a short time even matters. Dude, wake up......all my threads and pov's are consistent. Sorry you thought I was taking a shot at you, but I wasn't...........it's what I believe based on 30 years in this hobby and lots and lots of gear.

Stop being a martyr thinking everyone is talking to/at YOU specifically.

H9

megasat16

Almadacr wrote: »

(i am using as reference the XPA-5 ) with 2 channel`s they put to shame some class A amps that go for 3000$ and plus !!!!

I think it's a pretty bold statement. Would you mind let the cat out of the bag and announce what Class A amps are you referring to?

I am very interested in any Class A amps that performs worse than Emotiva Class AB amps.

audiocr381ve

heiney9 wrote: »

Yeah, you're right I've been stating that exact mantra for about 2 years now in dozens and dozens of threads, making my point, giving specific examples and you think it's aimed squarely at you...........as if your presence here for such a short time even matters. Dude, wake up......all my threads and pov's are consistent. Sorry you thought I was taking a shot at you, but I wasn't...........it's what I believe based on 30 years in this hobby and lots and lots of gear.

Stop being a martyr thinking everyone is talking to/at YOU specifically.

H9

Sorry, you're right. It's just that this came to mind. Lots of implications made, but whatever dude!

heiney9 wrote: »

Guys time to let it go a bit, he's now getting advice over at the Emotiva forum:rolleyes:

And while some of those guys know what's going on, most are a little clueless when it comes to really nice gear and synergy. For most over there it's all about watts, and that couldn't be farther from the truth.

He will have to find his own path, by himself.

H9

heiney9

Believe it or not I have spent some time over at the Emo lounge, just taking it all in. I'm not there to stir the pot, but just reading and reading for over a year and I stand by my statements.

See the problem with you and the way you comprehend some posts is you single out words and then attach your own interpretation to the meaning I'm trying to convey.

The word "little" is important before your bolded "clueless". Also after clueless "when it comes to really nice gear and synergy". Is a pretty important part of the statement because it qualifies what, in my opinion, is a "little clueless".

If you just single out the words you bolded, it takes on an entirely different meaning, one you obviously misinterpreted.

I would guess the misinterpretation comes from me thinking Emo isn't really nice gear and you thinking it is. To me really nice gear is stuff like Pass, Belles, CJ, ARC, Parasound, Classe, Benchmark, W4S, Jolida, Musical Fidelity, Aragon, etc, etc. Maybe that's why you misunderstood.

H9

Almadacr

heiney9 wrote: »

Ok, you have your opinion and having heard Emo and Outlaw I couldn't DISAGREE more. What $3K+ Class A amps have you heard that are so shameful the Emo XPA5 and Outlaws put them to shame?

That's a very HUGE statement that puts a large amount of suspicion on your motives and actual time in the audio hobby.

Again, you absolutely entitled to your opinion, but now it's time to back it up in detail since I think most who actually have spent a lot time in this hobby, critically listening to a lot of gear might disagree with you.

But hey, we don;t all have to agree, do we?

H9

That`s for , it would`t be healthy if we agree on everything right .

One of my quests that involved for a 2 channel speakers ( Totem ) the amp used was a classe CAV-180 that used , you can find for 2200$ - 2500$ , It performed very well , but a friend of mine that as B&W CM9 and a XPA-5 , i was going wow a such amp under 1000$ was performing so well , by the way both receivers were Integra`s so no differences there .

So the question is why so much difference in price with amps that perform well for a general use ????

This model Classe CAV - 180 was initially sold for 4000$ , would you make that move or would you look at others like Parasound and Rotel ????

LessisNevermore

audiocr381ve

heiney9 wrote: »

Believe it or not I have spent some time over at the Emo lounge, just taking it all in. I'm not there to stir the pot, but just reading and reading for over a year and I stand by my statements.

See the problem with you and the way you comprehend some posts is you single out words and then attach your own interpretation to the meaning I'm trying to convey.

The word "little" is important before your bolded "clueless". Also after clueless "when it comes to really nice gear and synergy". Is a pretty important part of the statement because it qualifies what, in my opinion, is a "little clueless".

If you just single out the words you bolded, it takes on an entirely different meaning, one you obviously misinterpreted.

I would guess the misinterpretation comes from me thinking Emo isn't really nice gear and you thinking it is. To me really nice gear is stuff like Pass, Belles, CJ, ARC, Parasound, Classe, Benchmark, W4S, Jolida, Musical Fidelity, Aragon, etc, etc. Maybe that's why you misunderstood.

H9

Those words weren't taken out of context as the rest of the sentence is right there for anyone to read! I made words bold to point out where one could easily take offense.

The W4S DAC 2 is on my most wanted list

heiney9

Didn't use the word "context", you did. I used the words "interpretation and comprehend". The last one seems to be an issue with you because you thought the meaning of my post was to point out you took it out of "context", but that wasn't my point at all.

Sheesh, I am done here. I can't stand someone who has very little comprehension skills. We aren't on the same page.

H9

Almadacr

Co`on guys this was suppose to help the OP , right now we are only creating confusion on is options .

rromeo923

How bout a Sherbourn 7/2100 amp and a B&K Ref 50 pre.

I may know someone about to sell

FTGV

LessisNevermore wrote: »

He He seems to happen to a lot of threads when certain folks are involved.

BlueFox

LessisNevermore wrote: »

Is this what is known as "Drinking the Roger Russel Kool-Aid", or is it "Drinking the Emotiva Kool-Aid" ?

Systems

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Having more power is gonna wake your fronts up with a splash of increase in dynamics and low end. Emotiva amps are an incredible value, just be warned this isn't the place to ask (or even talk) about them.

Google is your friend, search for reviews on their amps.

And why is that?..It was some of the oldtimers in here who told me about them..But just to clear up the air i have owed Carver amps before too..and no not everyone can afford really highend gear..just trying to help the guy out. i didn't know there was bad blood over amps in here..lol..

Systems

audiocr381ve wrote: »

Having more power is gonna wake your fronts up with a splash of increase in dynamics and low end. Emotiva amps are an incredible value, just be warned this isn't the place to ask (or even talk) about them.

Google is your friend, search for reviews on their amps.

found it..yep i see what you mean..thanks for the heads up..my bad..some of that wasn't cool at all..but thanks to all the oldtimers in here for the help..one day when i get rich..all tube amps..but for now..my UPA-1's mono blocks will do..

Systems

ctank wrote: »

Check out Emotiva's,Onkyo, HarmanKardon,Niles Audio,Adcom..all good amps,...i have two UPA-1's mono block's.. XPA-3 ..they are 200 watts into 8 ohms..I luv my UPA-1's!..They really open up the sound stage on my Polk Monitor 70's.

cstmar01

Emo is decent for HT but for 2 channel I prefer something a bit different. If you just want an amp to have one then emo will be fine. Personally I would look to parasound, adcom, rotel, Aragon, anthem, ati, carver, and several others that maybe a few years old but still quality amps