How old are your speakers?

finfan
finfan Posts: 35
edited July 2011 in Speakers
I was on another thread and someone suggested to me that I should upgrade my speakers. However I have never even considered upgrading my speakers. I love the sound that comes out of my Polks when watching bluray movies.

Really the only thing I want to upgrade all the time is my receiver. Just curious if there is anyone else that has older speakers. How long is too long to keep them? I bought my speakers back in 1999.
Receiver - Onkyo TX - NR807
CD Player - Onkyo C-S5VL
Bluray Player - Playstation 3
Turntable - Sony PS-LX110
Tuner - Yamaha TX-497
Main Speakers - Polk Audio RT 2000I
Center Speaker - Polk Audio CSI 400I
Rear speakers - Polk Audio FX 500I
10" Sub - Polk Audio PSW 450
TV - Sony Bravia KDL-52XBR9
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  • JGM411
    JGM411 Posts: 18
    edited June 2011
    My oldest speakers are Monitor 7's. I bought them new in 1980, while in college at the UofI. They still sound great.
    Receiver: Denon AVR1800

    Speakers: Subwoofer: Velodyne FSX-12; Sides: Polk Audio Monitor 7; Center: Polk Audio CS400i Rear: Polk Audio FX500i;

    Two channel (new). McIntosh C2300 preamp, MC275 50th Aniversary limited edition Amplifier, RegaP5 turntable, aerial Acoustics 7T speakers

    DVD: Panasonic; BlueRay Magnavox

    TV: Sony Bravia 46NX700
    TV: Sony Bravia 55HX720
    TV: Toshiba 52HMX94
  • finfan
    finfan Posts: 35
    edited June 2011
    JGM411 wrote: »
    My oldest speakers are Monitor 7's. I bought them new in 1980, while in college at the UofI. They still sound great.

    Yeah I am not sure why that person suggested I get all new speakers. I invested enough money with all the speakers I have now. When I watch movies I still get all the right sounds coming from all the speakers.
    Receiver - Onkyo TX - NR807
    CD Player - Onkyo C-S5VL
    Bluray Player - Playstation 3
    Turntable - Sony PS-LX110
    Tuner - Yamaha TX-497
    Main Speakers - Polk Audio RT 2000I
    Center Speaker - Polk Audio CSI 400I
    Rear speakers - Polk Audio FX 500I
    10" Sub - Polk Audio PSW 450
    TV - Sony Bravia KDL-52XBR9
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2011
    My Polk RTA-8Ts are 21 years old. I got them 2/6/90. I will most likely keep them til they die on their own.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,194
    edited June 2011
    Yep,
    If the sound you hear is fine, there is no need to spend money. What usually happens is some one hears some one elses speakers and hears more bass or detail. That's what happened to me to. I heard ESS AMT 1D's and knew right then, my fishers were inadequate.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited June 2011
    Isn't there a concern though with 'older' foam surrond speakers that the foam deterioates over time and needs to b replaced? (Hence all of the questions on Audiokarma about refoaming 'vintage' speakers)

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited June 2011
    I guess the foam surrounds could be an issue on speakers with them. Advents are notorious for this issue, but most of Polk's speakers have rubber surrounds so it really limits that issue.

    My speakers are for the early 80's and I have owned them since 1990 or so and don't plan on getting rid of them ever.
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited June 2011
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Isn't there a concern though with 'older' foam surrond speakers that the foam deterioates over time and needs to b replaced? (Hence all of the questions on Audiokarma about refoaming 'vintage' speakers)
    I have a pair of speakers that are over 30 years and are still very functional. IMHO, if you own old speakers that are still adequate for the job you would be silly to waste your hard earned money on newer products that are more likely manufactured in China. Speaker technology has not changed in many years so if you maintain what you have you are better off than simply dishin where you do not need to. As far as the foam on speakers well, if you bought quality right from start this issue will not happen. I had a damage mid driver on my speakers and could not find the original and had to settle with Parts Express Pioneer driver which has foam surround and I would not be surprise that crap to fail before any of the other drivers. Let's face it, we are in the era of throw away technology so unless it is behong repair or obsolete, why would one replace proven quality with chinese throw away manufactured goods???
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  • cristo
    cristo Posts: 231
    edited June 2011
    My Polk 10A Monitors are almost 30 years old and going strong.
    The caps and resistors in the crossovers have been recently upgraded,
    and the fuses have been recently replaced, however.
    I'm not shopping for new speakers in the forseeable future.
    cristo

    NAD C 545BEE cd player, Philips AF877 turntable / Shure V15V-MR with JICO SAS stylus,
    Tascam 122 mkIII cassette deck, Harman Kardon 3480 receiver, Terk FM-50 antenna in the attic,
    Soundcraftsmen SE550 stereo equalizer, Polk Monitor 10a speakers
    (with Sonicraft/Solen/Mills crossover rebuild)
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited June 2011
    My NHT super zeros were made in 96, still sound very good.

    That is my favorite line of newer (post sda/classic monitor) polks other than the Lsis. Love the tri-lam tweeter in those, and they are very dynamic for home theater. No reason to upgrade unless you just have the itch.

    Peace,
    Paul
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra

    Bedroom 2.1
    Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,003
    edited June 2011
    finfan wrote: »
    I was on another thread and someone suggested to me that I should upgrade my speakers. However I have never even considered upgrading my speakers. I love the sound that comes out of my Polks when watching bluray movies.

    Really the only thing I want to upgrade all the time is my receiver. Just curious if there is anyone else that has older speakers. How long is too long to keep them? I bought my speakers back in 1999.

    in terms of daily drivers:

    The real hifi in the living room has a pair of Altec 604E Duplex drivers that were probably made in the early to mid 1960s. Crossovers (MasteringLabs) are somewhat newer; the cabinets they're in were built last year.

    604Etest.jpg

    My college-era hifi is in our family room. Speakers are a pair of Polk Audio Monitor Series Model 7A bought in 1978.

    Polkmonitor7Asn4900.jpg

    The oldest speakers in the house are a pair of Altec 604Bs or a single Altec 603B... or a single Stephens TruSonic 106AX coax (all from the very early 1950s).

    DSCN5839.jpg

    The coaxial speakers are all exceptionally good sounding; the 603B is so-so (but it is pretty cool).
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2011
    For the two channel, PSB Synchrony Ones are now 3 years old, and I am looking at upgrades. The two channel speakers will move into the HT to replace the 10 year old LSi15 fronts. I am a firm believer that speakers are mechanical entities and degrade over time. Like it or not, but it happens. Just as they break-in at first, they continue to break-in, and wear out. I suspect that while we might think they still sound good it is because we have grown accustomed to the sound and do not notice the degradation.

    Anyway, do whatever you want. Its your money.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited June 2011
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Isn't there a concern though with 'older' foam surrond speakers that the foam deterioates over time and needs to b replaced? (Hence all of the questions on Audiokarma about refoaming 'vintage' speakers)

    +1 You may see about 20 yrs on foam surrounds, before needing replacement (not too hard to do), and depending on components used in the XO's maybe about the same time before refreshing those.

    1 pr Genesis 320's bought new sometime in the 80's so about 30 years old.
    1 pr Genesis II's bought used, manufactured in the mid 70's. All surrounds have been replaced.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,003
    edited June 2011
    Re-surrounding speakers is easy and inexpensive. I've picked up some nice, cast-off loud speakers with rotted foam surrounds (e.g., an otherwise nice pair of Allison Ones, from the freebie "swap pile" at our town transfer station). One may have it done professionally if one prefers. The sad corollary is that many otherwise fine loudspeakers ended up in landfills due to the eminently correctable problem of decomposed polyurethane foam surrounds :-(
  • finfan
    finfan Posts: 35
    edited June 2011
    Yep,
    If the sound you hear is fine, there is no need to spend money. What usually happens is some one hears some one elses speakers and hears more bass or detail. That's what happened to me to. I heard ESS AMT 1D's and knew right then, my fishers were inadequate.


    That's funny you say Fishers. When I was in the Navy that was the first pair of speakers I bought. Fishers sounded great to me and looked good too. Sold that pair a long time ago. Its been a long time since I heard the word Fisher.
    Receiver - Onkyo TX - NR807
    CD Player - Onkyo C-S5VL
    Bluray Player - Playstation 3
    Turntable - Sony PS-LX110
    Tuner - Yamaha TX-497
    Main Speakers - Polk Audio RT 2000I
    Center Speaker - Polk Audio CSI 400I
    Rear speakers - Polk Audio FX 500I
    10" Sub - Polk Audio PSW 450
    TV - Sony Bravia KDL-52XBR9
  • ajanzalone
    ajanzalone Posts: 128
    edited June 2011
    since 1977 .... love my Polk monitor 10's
    Audio Research SP5 Preamp
    Quad 405 Amp
    Pioneer Elite DV-48AV -
    Outlaw 950 preamp/processor
    Polk Monitor 10's
    Velodyne VRP 1200 Sub Woofer

    Success is having what you want ... but Happiness is wanting what you have!
  • finfan
    finfan Posts: 35
    edited June 2011
    cfrizz wrote: »
    My Polk RTA-8Ts are 21 years old. I got them 2/6/90. I will most likely keep them til they die on their own.

    How are those Sunfire products holding up for you? I think the next purchase for me will either be TGR-401 or TGA-7201. The only bummer is I noticed that the TGR -401 doesn't have an input for phono? So does that mean I can't hook up my turntable?

    Also I wonder if my polks can handle this much power.
    Receiver - Onkyo TX - NR807
    CD Player - Onkyo C-S5VL
    Bluray Player - Playstation 3
    Turntable - Sony PS-LX110
    Tuner - Yamaha TX-497
    Main Speakers - Polk Audio RT 2000I
    Center Speaker - Polk Audio CSI 400I
    Rear speakers - Polk Audio FX 500I
    10" Sub - Polk Audio PSW 450
    TV - Sony Bravia KDL-52XBR9
  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited June 2011
    I guess some of my Advents are over 40yrs old and my ARs are maybe older. All have/will require refoaming and maybe crossover upgrading. Those that have been refoamed sound very good. I play my Polk Monitor 7s a lot but my B&Ws from the 80s are my favorites.
    TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,003
    edited June 2011
    finfan wrote: »
    That's funny you say Fishers. When I was in the Navy that was the first pair of speakers I bought. Fishers sounded great to me and looked good too. Sold that pair a long time ago. Its been a long time since I heard the word Fisher.

    FWIW: When I think of "Fisher" (hi-fi), I don't think of speakers; it was not Avery T. and Company's strong suit (or is that suite?):

    TQWT.jpg
    Fisher1400.jpg
    P1020673.jpg

    (in the interest of disclosure; the X-100 isn't mine; it's one I rehab'bed for a local)
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2011
    I love my Sunfires. They aren't the latest & greatest but they do everything I need them to do.

    The speakers will only take the power that they need to operate to their full potential. What's important, is that the power is there when they need it. So your speakers will be just fine.:smile:
    finfan wrote: »
    How are those Sunfire products holding up for you? I think the next purchase for me will either be TGR-401 or TGA-7201. The only bummer is I noticed that the TGR -401 doesn't have an input for phono? So does that mean I can't hook up my turntable?

    Also I wonder if my polks can handle this much power.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited June 2011
    I have 2nd owner refoamed Infinitys SM112s probably from the mid 80s.No problems whatsoever and after reading some old reviews I have to disagree that it lacks the bottom end.I think the bass is fine.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited June 2011
    finfan wrote: »
    The only bummer is I noticed that the TGR -401 doesn't have an input for phono? So does that mean I can't hook up my turntable?
    You can use a separate phono stage, which will likely be better than an integrated one anyway.

    I personally recommend the Cambridge Audio Azur 640p, which handles both MM and MC cartridges. It is an absolute steal for its regular retail price ($179). Used ones occasionally pop up on Audiogon, but they tend to go very quickly.

    The sound quality on these units trounce anything in its price class, as well as equipment that is at a much higher price point. There are quite a few reviews around the web that confirm my observations.
  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited June 2011
    My Dahlquist DQ-10's are somewhere between 30 and 35 years old.
    Norh ACA-2B tube pre, Sumo Andromeda SS amp. Magneplanar MMG speakers, M&K MX1250 Subwoofer, Pro-Ject RM1.3 Genie TT with Sumiko Pearl MM cart., Keces DAC, Cambridge Audio Azur 640c CD player
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2011
    My Klipsch Fortes are from the 80's, and the combination of rubber surround woofers and horn mids and tweeters means no maintenance!
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2011
    Age and sound quality are not related.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2011
    A significant number of members here have some 'used' speakers in their tool kit. If you own a set of Vintage Polks (Monitors or SDAs) then your speakers are over a couple of decades old in all likelihood!

    Others own Vintage stock from other well-known companies as well. So I don't quite get the question.

    I own more speakers than I need. Some LSIs (relatively new), some Energy RC-10s (new), Monitor 5As (old), SDA 2Bs (old), JBL lts mid to late 80s, etc.

    I like both the old and the new! Different speakers have different temperaments and personalities and can be appreciated for those qualities.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited June 2011
    Both pair of my Ar's are 27 years old and both pair have had the surrounds refoamed a few years back still sound great, the Cerwin Vegas are around 15 years old or so and still original and still rock the house my garage 301's are at least 20 years old and still sound good, the polks are a few months old and I'am loving my Rti's I hope they hold out as long as my other speakers do.
    Home Theater
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    2 Channel
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited June 2011
    I bought my 10b's in 85 and they're still going strong as my HT mains.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
  • pstrev
    pstrev Posts: 60
    edited June 2011
    I just replaced all my speakers with my set up below within the last 3 months. Does anybody keep the boxes the speakers come in- just in case they must go back??? I now have alot of big boxes ready for the attic.

    Pat
    Yamaha RX-A700
    Polk Audio RTi A5
    Polk Audio CSi A6
    Polk Audio RTi A3
    Polk Audio DSW Pro 500wi
  • adcomcyclone
    adcomcyclone Posts: 49
    edited June 2011
    My SDA SRS are dated 1985, so they are 25+ years old. I have only had them a few months, but they were pretty beat up when I got them. With a little TLC (actually a lot) and a few new midbass drivers, due to apparent lack of care from prior owner, they sound wonderful now. Crossovers probably could use an upgrade. I don't think for the $1600 or so that I have invested in them that I could get nearly as much from a new speaker.
    2 Channel
    Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

    Home Theatre
    Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
    Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)


    Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited June 2011
    My Klipsch RF7 IIs are about a month old. Everything else for 2 channel is being sold.

    cubdog
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    Emotiva XDA-2
    Bel Canto M300 mono blocks
    Bel Canto DAC 1.5
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