If you had $2000 for a tube integrated what would you get

JimBRICK
JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
edited June 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
As the title says, I'm looking for a tube integrated amp around the $2000 taxes in range.

Going to be used with a set of klipsch corwalls and a Jolida tube cd player.
Later in the year I will also be adding a turntable.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2011
    Jim
    Maybe check some of Grant Fidelty's offerings? Prima Luna from Upscale audio maybe?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    Manley Stingray w/remote
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited June 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Manley Stingray w/remote

    What he said.^^^
    SDA-1C (full mods)
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    Rotel RCD-855 with modified tube output stage
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    Thats listing for 6000 bucks
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2011
    Do you want integrated phono in the amp, or will you be using a separate phono stage?
    Jake
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    I was looking at this
    S_CRONUSMAGB__65759__02122010111111-8493.jpg
    http://www.rogueaudio.com/Products_Titan.htm
    90WPC Magnum $2,195

    90 WPC

    - Remote volume control included
    - 20Hz-30Khz bandwidth
    - EL-34 output tubes, (3) 12AU7,
    (2)12AX7 small signal tubes
    - Phono section gain 35dB (before preamp)

    - (3) line level inputs, (1) phono input
    - (1) variable output, (1) fixed output
    - Headphone amplifier
    - 4 and 8 ohm taps
    - Optional cover ($125)
    - 18” W X 17.5” D X 5.5” H
    - 50 lbs (55lbs shipping weight)
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    Thats listing for 6000 bucks

    Oops, I guess that slipped my mind. So you're looking for NEW

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    zingo wrote: »
    Do you want integrated phono in the amp, or will you be using a separate phono stage?

    its not a neccessity cause I can get one when I purchase my turntable. But it doesnt hurt
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    These get good reviews.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatube&1312612888&/Audio-Space-Galaxy-34-tube

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatube&1312606617&/Cayin-A-100T

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?intatube&1312335653&/Rogue-Tempest-3
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2011
    http://www.upscaleaudio.com/specials/integrateds-specials/unico-p.html

    Unico P on sale
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    I likey the cayin. Very sharp
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited June 2011
    Heiney wasn't too far off with the Stingray....at the old prices. Actually, it was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the thread. Check the used price the last one went for on the forum...:eek:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73338&
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    The Audio Space Galaxy (the first link) gets stellar reviews. The only thing I don't like about it is if you are going to use NOS tubes (which I highly recommend) it will cost you an arm and a leg to re-tube.

    If I were in the market, that's the one I'd be leaning towards if I had the coin to re-tube. Many of the tubes it takes I already have in my stash so the outlay wouldn't be too bad.

    The Rogue stuff is very nice as well.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Used Stingray.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    1200 bucks wth damn
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    I was think about the Jolida JD1000RC . Very nice looking, Anyone spent some time with one? Oh and I'll buy that Manley off anyone for 1200 right now :)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    You need to consider, auto-bias, fixed bias or manual bias. I prefer manual with auto being a close second. Not a fan of fixed bias tube amps.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited June 2011
    I wish I never had sold my onix sp3. Worst audio decision I ever made
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2011
    Grant Fidelity is offering a new 40wpc, KT88 based PP integrated called the W30GT which has an integrated 12AX7 phono stage, as well as an integrated 24/192 DAC section. Initial reviews are good, and even Klipsch people like the sound even though it is push-pull. It looks like a great all-in-one solution.
    Jake
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited June 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    1200 bucks wth damn
    Yeah, Manley about doubled their prices on everything in the lineup a couple of months back, IIRC. Not sure how that affected the used prices though. Great piece if you can find one.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Very hard to find. I wish i bought Ted's! I could sell it for $4500 today

    Real classy.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Yeah, Manley about doubled their prices on everything in the lineup a couple of months back, IIRC. Not sure how that affected the used prices though. Great piece if you can find one.

    According to the Agon Blue Book, it doesn't appear to have affected the prices of the original Stingray. If anything, the resale of the original has declined slightly since the debut of the Stingray II.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited June 2011
    Rogue Audio Tempest II Magnum
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited June 2011
    Oh, I didn't realize they introduced another Stingray. Any difference between the two that you know of?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited June 2011
    Cayin
    DKG999
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    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    They added a remote and made it look not nearly as sexy: http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/stingray2.html
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2011
    Face wrote: »
    According to the Agon Blue Book, it doesn't appear to have affected the prices of the original Stingray. If anything, the resale of the original has declined slightly since the debut of the Stingray II.

    Try getting hold of one... The thing about manley is that even though they were not cheap before the price raise, they offered more than the price would suggest.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited June 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I wish I never had sold my onix sp3. Worst audio decision I ever made

    I wondered about that. Sold mine as well. So far no regrets.

    cubdog
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited June 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I was looking at this
    S_CRONUSMAGB__65759__02122010111111-8493.jpg
    http://www.rogueaudio.com/Products_Titan.htm
    90WPC Magnum $2,195

    90 WPC

    - Remote volume control included
    - 20Hz-30Khz bandwidth
    - EL-34 output tubes, (3) 12AU7,
    (2)12AX7 small signal tubes
    - Phono section gain 35dB (before preamp)

    - (3) line level inputs, (1) phono input
    - (1) variable output, (1) fixed output
    - Headphone amplifier
    - 4 and 8 ohm taps
    - Optional cover ($125)
    - 18? W X 17.5? D X 5.5? H
    - 50 lbs (55lbs shipping weight)

    I would highly recommend this amp,it is something special,at least to my ears.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    aside from the usual suspects,,Rogue,Manley,,and given the efficiency of your speakers,,have you thought about any of the 2A3 or 300B offerings?
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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