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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    Just kidding I can, and do all the blue collar trade activities. Too bad it's all beneath the current crop of young americans to take up, that is what creates the vacuum that the wetbacks are only too eager to fill.:mad:
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  • doggie750
    doggie750 Posts: 1,160
    edited May 2011
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    What exactly does "cry to have a good living" mean?

    Personally, I stand side-by-side with law-abiding CITIZENS who are willing to WORK hard to EARN a good living. I don't care if they were born here or not, but they have to play by the RULES, enter LEGALLY, apply for citizenship and fulfill all of the legal obligations.

    Otherwise, I think we need waaaaay more heavily armed Sheriff Joe's.
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I stand shoulder to shoulder with those that go through the process of coming here LEGALLY, ready to bring their unique spirit to our shores and embrace what it is that makes America great. I will stand ready to send packing anyone that violates our laws and my nation's sovereignty for the purpose of stealing what does not belong to them. I will stand opposed to anyone that comes here to be anything other than what millions have spilled their blood to defend.

    I am an American. If you want to be Canadian, stay in Canada and come on down for a visit every now and again. If you want to be a Mexican, that's ok too, but the same rules apply.

    Politically, ur both correct but I don't know man just something inside of me that I could care less if their status is illegal or legal. I guess I could be a priest or a missionary. I have worked with these people and I understand them why they do what they do. It is easier for us on this side of the fence bcoz we are blessed/ fortunate but on their side it's hell. True that there are variables/ factors we can discussed to justify both parties but bottomline is we are all human and a life of ur children are worth dying for. I know rules are rules and must be followed at all cost but hey as said b4 direct this rules to those who abused it criminally & to all the oppressors of our lawful peaceful citizens.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Just kidding I can, and do all the blue collar trade activities. Too bad it's all beneath the current crop of young americans to take up, that is what creates the vacuum that the wetbacks are only too eager to fill.:mad:


    Wrong way around. The pay dropped down to crap because they could get guys under the table for $6 an hour.
    Any crew working now that DOESN'T use them can't win a bid. Thus,
    go that route, or go under. Don't underestimate the young Americans.
    Once again, that's the crap the people who employ them spout out
    to excuse running a business with illegal labor.
    I've actually had a guy stop and tell me in my front yard that a white guy
    shouldn't do that kind of work, and offered to have his crew do it for me.
    I sent him packing.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    The wetbacks around here (MD-Balt.-Wash.) won't even get outa bed for $6.00 ! They're getting $12-15.00 Hr. average! The pimplefaced, pus-head young Americans around here would rather flip burgers or deliver pizzas for min. wage, than make twice that doing some actual hard work and learning something useful in the process.:frown:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,394
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    ^^^reported for racist slurs...
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    Reported for being a twirp:rolleyes:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited May 2011
    The reason the U.S. is "Blessed/fortunate" is because Americans were willing to sacrifice all__, in the hope of Freedom and Liberty. All one has to do is visit cemetaries to see the gravestones of those brave patriots who made the ultimate sacrifice upon the alter of freedom. Mexico 's people need to make the sacrifice for their____ freedom.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    You been drinking N'john's koolaid? You sound Just Like him!:eek:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,394
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    You been drinking N'john's koolaid? You sound Just Like him!:eek:

    Nothing wrong with being an American that believes in the principles upon which we were founded. The only koolaid being drunk is by those that believe our founders got it wrong... we call those progressives and communists. Which one are you? It is worthy to note here that communists and progressives tend to share the racist views you espoused earlier in this thread. I hope they ban you for them.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    You are being a self righteous pissant again NJ, work on it!:smile:

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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    It is worthy to note here that communists and progressives tend to share the racist views you espoused earlier in this thread.

    What the hell are you talking about? Seriously. I don't even know where to start with that. Do you even know what those words mean?
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    unc2701 wrote: »
    What the hell are you talking about? Seriously. I don't even know where to start with that. Do you even know what those words mean?

    Hilarious, ain't he? I think he likes to keep himself in a constant state of contradiction/confusion, like most professed "know it all about everythings".:rolleyes:
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Hilarious, ain't he? I think he likes to keep himself in a constant state of contradiction/confusion, like most professed "know it all about everythings".:rolleyes:

    I'm not defending the use of wetback, BTW. It kinda fails the "will you get your **** beat if you use it in front of said minority" test and is generally accepted to be a slur, around here anyway.

    Speaking of ****-beating tests, NJ should go to a klan/skinhead rally and tell them that he's a progressive/communist. I sure he will be welcomed with open arms.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
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    I'm shocked, SHOCKED, at the direction this thread has gone.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    Don't know your area, but here..... they (illegal hisp.) call themselves "wets" in a jocular manner, similar to the AAs calling each other every permutation of the "N" word possible. Mojado is heard followed by peals of laughter , all the time. I think of the word only as being descriptive(wet from the river crossing), there are mucho terms for Mexicans ect. in general that I don't/won't use, whether they happen to be in America or home, south of the border.:smile:
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  • gdb
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    edited May 2011
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
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    I appreciates your eagerness GDB and Nooshin but I don't think you two are doing anything more than turning this thread into your personal vendetta.

    So, I am going to take this thread back on course and you are welcome to partake with more sensible posts? What says you?
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited May 2011
    I got guns for one reason more than others.

    A minority of mexicans love america. You'd be a fool to question that fact. My new best friend is mexican, but as he puts it, he's an AMERICAN-mexican. You come to this country or are born here, love it or get the hell out of it.

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    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
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    doggie750 wrote: »
    Politically, ur both correct but I don't know man just something inside of me that I could care less if their status is illegal or legal. I guess I could be a priest or a missionary. I have worked with these people and I understand them why they do what they do. It is easier for us on this side of the fence bcoz we are blessed/ fortunate but on their side it's hell. True that there are variables/ factors we can discussed to justify both parties but bottomline is we are all human and a life of ur children are worth dying for. I know rules are rules and must be followed at all cost but hey as said b4 direct this rules to those who abused it criminally & to all the oppressors of our lawful peaceful citizens.

    I also have a soft heart for them and understand lots of illegals have their hardships and reasons in their lives. But it doesn't excuse them from taking the right path.

    They can try doing the right way and understand they are not above the law. The legal path to the immigration has been laid down many years ago and they also have chances to come to the U.S as the documented workers on H1 visas.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited May 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    It'll never happen because liberals hate real Americans. Think about that one for awhile. True, but sad.

    2012 people...2012. If you've never voted on anything else, make it to the poles this time. We cannot afford this nanny country crap anymore. This country was born of tough, hard working people, who depended upon NO ONE. We need to get back to it. People will rise to the occasion, or they will have one hell of a difficult life---that is on THEM. IT IS NOT YOUR COUNTRYS' RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE FOR YOU.
    WOO HOO BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG BANG THEM DAG NABBIT DEMS CREATED ALL THESE ILLEGALS BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG GET RID OF 'EM BANG

    /idiot
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  • BIZILL
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    brettw22 wrote: »
    WOO HOO BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG BANG THEM DAG NABBIT DEMS CREATED ALL THESE ILLEGALS BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG GET RID OF 'EM BANG

    /idiot

    Awwww, yeah! Although i detect your sarcasm, your idea is still acceptable.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »
    I appreciates your eagerness GDB and Nooshin but I don't think you two are doing anything more than turning this thread into your personal vendetta.

    So, I am going to take this thread back on course and you are welcome to partake with more sensible posts? What says you?

    Hey, I'm good with that and besides...........he started it!:biggrin:
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited May 2011
    BIZILL wrote: »
    Awwww, yeah! Although i detect your sarcasm, your idea is still acceptable.
    And flies in the face of reality......but reality never gets in a Republican's way........ :D
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
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    megasat16 wrote: »
    I also have a soft heart for them and understand lots of illegals have their hardships and reasons in their lives. But it doesn't excuse them from taking the right path.

    They can try doing the right way and understand they are not above the law. The legal path to the immigration has been laid down many years ago and they also have chances to come to the U.S as the documented workers on H1 visas.

    Gee isn't that corporate America's gig? Bring in lots of cheap programers
    from India? My last company did that. They had a online flea market,
    and you could tell from all the listings when a software project was done.
    They'd pay those guys about $16 an hour, no benefits.
    Once again, employers want disposable cheap labor. Dixie cups,
    toss them out when you're done with them.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited May 2011
    brettw22 wrote: »
    And flies in the face of reality......but reality never gets in a Republican's way........ :D

    damn, you're right though. either way, both parties will screw the american people. honestly, the way things are going i think is ireversible. with the population growing, there is no way in hell this system is sustainable. not even if we adhere completely to the laws/constitution. population will do us in eventually.

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • BIZILL
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    edited May 2011
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Gee isn't that corporate America's gig? Bring in lots of cheap programers
    from India? My last company did that. They had a online flea market,
    and you could tell from all the listings when a software project was done.
    They'd pay those guys about $16 an hour, no benefits.
    Once again, employers want disposable cheap labor. Dixie cups,
    toss them out when you're done with them.

    i won't call it greed that drives business owners to contract out. well, that makes no sense. what i mean is that to a certain extent, i see why they do it. not just for a fat paycheck, but to keep their business profitable and in some instances... from going under. i work for said type of business owners. alot of our stuff is shipped off to china to be made vs in-house. it never bothered me before. but the more mature i become, the more i pay attention, and the more i see the fallicy. it's frightening how little i actually knew when i was younger and thought i knew it all.

    and that's a segue into the next problem. the youngin's who think they know something. don't get me started...

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2011
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Gee isn't that corporate America's gig? Bring in lots of cheap programers from India? My last company did that. They had a online flea market, and you could tell from all the listings when a software project was done. They'd pay those guys about $16 an hour, no benefits.
    Once again, employers want disposable cheap labor. Dixie cups, toss them out when you're done with them.

    I am dealing with that now. Jobs are going to India, or they are coming here. The funny part (sarcastic) is we are expected to work all day, and attend, via conference calls, meetings with the India team at 11 PM (PST). If you object you are not a "team player".

    However, in regard to this thread, while I agree it would be nice if there were no illegal immigration, the fact is that has been occurring as long as this country has existed. Unfortunately, in the real world, rarely is there a simplistic right/wrong, black/white solution to a social problem.
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  • mrbigbluelight
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    brettw22 wrote: »
    WOO HOO BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG BANG THEM DAG NABBIT DEMS CREATED ALL THESE ILLEGALS BANG BANG WOO HOO BANG GET RID OF 'EM BANG

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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2011
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Gee isn't that corporate America's gig? Bring in lots of cheap programers
    from India? My last company did that. They had a online flea market,
    and you could tell from all the listings when a software project was done.
    They'd pay those guys about $16 an hour, no benefits.
    Once again, employers want disposable cheap labor. Dixie cups,
    toss them out when you're done with them.

    Isn't it the irony to hire the cheap labor to be still competitive or be out of business for unable to be competitive?

    That's why the hard working middle class got slashed in many ways. Both you and I know the politicians won't care as long as the job is done regardless of whether it's done by an American or $15/hr Indian on H1B Visa. I hope this will change soon with a better vision for this country.

    Am I sounding like a Tea Bagger or a left or right wing nut? Anyway, I am not and it's my last comment on the politics.
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