Can we have a computer section?

RuSsMaN

Pretty much.

treitz3

The convenience crowd forum? Eh, at least it keeps them in their place.

heiney9

Sorry, but we don't need another sub-forum. This subject already gets plenty of discussion in the electronics section. To many fragments and subjects either get missed or momentum is lost because of the need to check all the sub-forums.

IMHO

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RuSsMaN

In my Hotdog opinion?

heiney9

RuSsMaN wrote: »

In my Hotdog opinion?

Better than In My Homo opinion, not that there is anything wrong with that, I'll leave that for Al and Brett :biggrin:

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MacLeod

nap wrote: »

I think it would be a positive thing if done the right way. The head of marketing (KAB) liked the idea. Now if you would like to submit constructive ideas on what to call it I am sure he would listen. Remember now, I said constructive. Cheers. :cool:

How about simply "Computer Audio". That would cover anything from sound card comparisons to how to install a Blu-Ray player in your desktop to headsets to HTPC's to iTunes and Winamp.

So if this thing gets going, is everybody gonna hate me now? :redface:

dorokusai

MacLeod wrote: »

So if this thing gets going, is everybody gonna hate me now? :redface:

Who exactly likes you now?

Polkersince85

Digital Audio " Putting all the Bits and Pieces together"





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aka "For those who can't set up a Turntable"

Jstas

nap wrote: »

I think it would be a positive thing if done the right way. The head of marketing (KAB) liked the idea. Now if you would like to submit constructive ideas on what to call it I am sure he would listen. Remember now, I said constructive. Cheers. :cool:

You be quiet, you! :mad:

Jstas

dorokusai wrote: »

Who exactly likes you now?

Not me!

Jstas

How about we call it the "No, I will not fix your computer" forum?

Jstas

Keiko wrote: »

Mac's a Celt, which automatically makes him :cool:

I thought he was Scottish?

Unless he's a Spaniard with a Scottish accent?

Jstas

Pictish Pages, Pictish Pages, time to get your Pictish Pages! Time to get your crayons and your pencils!

BlueFox

Digital Audio forum would be a more appropriate name as music servers are replacing computers and sound cards. Bryston just released a $2K device dedicated to playing digital files solely to eliminate the computer since they introduce noise into the chain.

heiney9

BlueFox wrote: »

Bryston just released a $2K device dedicated to playing digital files solely to eliminate the computer since they CAN, but if done correctly don't, introduce noise into the chain.

Fixed it for you. Is your post the kind of disinformation that would be in said new forum?

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heiney9

I vote we have a vinyl forum and cable forum and food of the day forum, these all get as many or more inquiries. I could see the need if the computer questions went unanswered but I always see lots of people chiming in whenever these quesions come up, so "if ain't broke........"

Further splintering is a real turn off. It's one of the reasons I don't visit many of the other audio sites all that frequently.

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MacLeod

Really? One more subforum covering computer audio is gonna ruin the place? Really? I get not wanting to crap the place up with a thousand subs but I don't get acting like we just got bought out by Bose because of the addition of 1 sub based on a pretty massive audio platform.

Me being a PC enthusiast aside, computer audio is the future guys. There are more and more people that listen to the majority of their music or play their movies on their PC. 90% of the music I listen to at home is on my PC. I see this in all the computer forums I frequent. Most of them have subforums for computer audio and there are as many if not more threads devoted to music setups as there are anything else. I don't think its unreasonable to put up a subforum based on it here in a place dedicated to audio goodness. Its not the preferred platform for audio purists and it may not get near the traffic as others but neither is car audio, movies or video games and they all have a place here.

nadams

In my opinion, there's plenty of computer forums out there for any general computer questions.

Anything pertaining to audio can go in the electronics section.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it ;-)

heiney9

MacLeod wrote: »

Really? One more subforum covering computer audio is gonna ruin the place? Really? I get not wanting to crap the place up with a thousand subs but I don't get acting like we just got bought out by Bose because of the addition of 1 sub based on a pretty massive audio platform.

Me being a PC enthusiast aside, computer audio is the future guys. There are more and more people that listen to the majority of their music or play their movies on their PC. 90% of the music I listen to at home is on my PC. I see this in all the computer forums I frequent. Most of them have subforums for computer audio and there are as many if not more threads devoted to music setups as there are anything else. I don't think its unreasonable to put up a subforum based on it here in a place dedicated to audio goodness. Its not the preferred platform for audio purists and it may not get near the traffic as others but neither is car audio, movies or video games and they all have a place here.

Do the computer forums have forums specifically dedicated to audio? If not, why the other way around here. I just don't see the traffic as being close to enough to dedicate a sub forum to it, that's all. Plus, we already have forums that are perfectly acceptable to ask computer audio questions and they get proper discussion.

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Big Dawg

I think a section on digital audio would be appropriate, if unnecessary. We could also add a section on vintage electronics (to go with the vintage speakers section), or cables, etc. Rejecting the idea purely based on reactionary resistance to change is irrational. However, one of the nice things about this forum is how neatly organized the threads are. I would hate to see the ease of use diminished in a clutter of sub-topics.

In its current form, Club Polk is one of the finest forums on the Internet, audio or otherwise. Personally, I'm open to anything that improves the interchange of information and opinion, and the ease with which it is done here. I don't think that adding a section on digital audio necessarily accomplishes that improvement, but so long as it doesn't usher in a flood of new sections, I don't really have a problem with it either.

RuSsMaN

Frankfurters.

Jstas

russman wrote: »

frankfurters.

yay!

BlueFox

heiney9 wrote: »

Fixed it for you. Is your post the kind of disinformation that would be in said new forum?

Yes. That's me. Mr. FUD

I was just lazy and paraphrasing Bryston. Of course, then again, I am not the one posting that Apple Lossless is not really lossless.


Let me be a bit more precise.

"Most digital playback systems incorporate an all-in-one approach, where the computer houses the operating system (EX: Windows or Mac), the video interface, the CD ripper/player, the motherboard, the soundcard and the DACs contained all in one chassis. Think of this single-box methodology as more akin to an audio receiver rather than the more performance-oriented approach of using separate audio components optimized to perform fewer tasks more precisely.

Although the receiver approach is an easy solution, the performance often suffers due to various forms of noise and distortion that are unavoidable in any all-in-one solution. Computers are no different, while they may be great for locating and downloading content, they are far from the ideal playback device."


"The BDP-1 does not contain a hard-drive (no moving parts), a streamer, a CD player/ripper, a router or noisy fans."

"Bryston has also incorporated electronic isolation of all audio components from computer components within the device and has employed galvanic isolation to prevent charge-carrying particles from migrating within the BDP-1."


"It processes digital music files at a performance level unattainable with other playback solutions."

"In conclusion, the easiest way to understand the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Music Player is to think of it as an 21st century updated CD player. Instead of CD's as the music source though it utilizes USB thumb drives or USB harddrives as the music storage source." (I added the bold)

http://bryston.com/pdfs/09/Bryston_BDP1_LITERATURE.pdf

Demiurge

MacLeod wrote: »

How about simply "Computer Audio". That would cover anything from sound card comparisons to how to install a Blu-Ray player in your desktop to headsets to HTPC's to iTunes and Winamp.

So if this thing gets going, is everybody gonna hate me now? :redface:

Computer Audio is a good suggestion. Stick it under the Special Interests forums with the Music & Moves, and Video Games sub-forums.

I too don't like a ton of sub-forums, but that doesn't mean we should have none. We added the Video Game sub-forum after a suggestion a while ago, and I'm glad it's there.

Lots of Polkies get together and game together as a result of it.

If people want to kill off some forums, they can hit the little '-' sign in the upper right hand corner of each forum on the Club Polk main page and it will no longer be shown.

heiney9

Ok Treitz, how do you get the digital files on the thumb drives and hard drives? By ripping them in that "oh so hostile computer environment". All the gobbly **** you mentioned about the computer is untrue since it's all digital, until the conversion to analog. That's the most important part of the computer based audio system and the more important part of a digital server or dac.

There are simple, fool proof, easily obtainable methods that render all your gobbly **** moot when using a computer as a digital source. The Bryston incorporates the same methods as can be incorporated to the analog processing of a computer to achieve the same thing.


Is the Bryston a great solution? absolutely. Is Bryston a great company? absolutely. Can the same results be achieved using a computer and music streamer? absolutely. Can the computer and associated music streamer be more cost effective? absolutely.

Is the Bryston more attractive? yes. Is the Bryston a conversation starter? yes. Will the Bryston and the money you spent on it make you feel all warm and fuzzy compared to a lowly computer which sits in another room? absolutely.

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Face

Computer audio wouldn't be a bad idea, a general computer forum wouldn't be detrimental, but not really beneficial either.

heiney9

I suppose I would go for a computer audio or more general digital audio sub forum. I think computer forum is way too general for an audio/video related BB like CP. But like Demi, I'd hate to see this become a trend where all sorts of sub forums start popping up.

Weinersneitzel

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exalted512

You old guys hate change...that's all there is to it. I bet you still use an abacus and slide rulers instead of calculators
-Cody

Jstas

exalted512 wrote: »

You old guys hate change...that's all there is to it. I bet you still use an abacus and slide rulers instead of calculators
-Cody

Dude, you are so wrong.

I have a 2 foot tall Miller Lite bottle chock FULL of change!

MacLeod

heiney9 wrote: »

I suppose I would go for a computer audio or more general digital audio sub forum. I think computer forum is way too general for an audio/video related BB like CP.

That's what I was asking for, a forum for computers as it relates to audio as in HTPC's, sound cards, headsets, build advice and so on. Re-reading my first post does read like I was just talking about general computing so my bad for not getting it across right. I wasn't asking for a place to discuss PhotoShop or Chrome vs FireFox.