Everyone! Cd's sucks - sell them

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,774
edited May 2011 in Music & Movies
So I can buy them cheap and build my collection...

Digital files rule!!! (whispers, goooo CD's!)
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2011
    Amazon.com is your friend!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,184
    edited May 2011
    There was a cat here not too long ago that was selling his collection in one lot. Not sure if it ever sold or not but you may want to check the Flea Market.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,184
    edited May 2011
    Ah, here you go.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118884
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited May 2011
    Dude, that's pretty much gone since a good chunk of it is sitting on the shelves of my library right now.
    Expert Moron Extraordinaire

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,774
    edited May 2011
    I must admit I am not buying any CDs - I just like reading all these threads about ditching CD's for flac files and wav crap...

    Half.com and Amazon.com are awesome - keep the threads coming baby! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I must admit I am not buying any CDs - I just like reading all these threads about ditching CD's for flac files and wav crap...

    Duh. Where do you think the "flac files and wav crap..." come from? Trees?

    News flash. A CD is a storage device (very limited storage) for digital files. A CDP is simply a device for playing digital files stored on a CD. :rolleyes:

    I like reading the threads also. That is how you learn. :wink:
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  • ddmathis
    ddmathis Posts: 13
    edited May 2011
    Music on cd's are not compressed like wav or flac files.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2011
    Not selling my Cds any time soon. And I continue to buy them cause I have to feed the new tube CDP. Can you say warm and extremely musical...tubey?

    I will admit the threads mentioned are interesting but if I had the option between a 1500 dollar CDP (tubes) and a 1000 or so DAC...wait, I think I made that decision already?

    Carry on!

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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2011
    ddmathis wrote: »
    Music on cd's are not compressed like wav or flac files.
    bzzzzzzt, wrong!!!!!! Try again
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited May 2011
    I am in the process of loading my CD's on a external hard drive, with purchasing the W4S DAC 2 I'm looking forward to having my music at the touch of my finger. Not that I am going to get rid of my CD's.. Nothing wrong with having the toys to play what and how you want to play it..

    Still love my vinyl !!!!
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  • On3s&Z3r0s
    On3s&Z3r0s Posts: 1,013
    edited May 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    ddmathis wrote: »
    Music on cd's are not compressed like wav or flac files.

    bzzzzzzt, wrong!!!!!! Try again

    Well, he's half right... FLAC is compressed.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2011
    No....In every sense that matters his post is wrong.

    First, CDs ARE compressed.
    Second, WAV are an exact 1:1 copy of the CD and are not compressed
    Third, FLAC are 'technically' compressed more than a CD, but are still lossless and in every meaningful sense as good as a CD.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2011
    What I don't understand is why some people still think compression is bad. It has been shown for years there is no difference between an uncompressed file, and the original file. I suspect they are confusing compression with lossy files removing bits.

    Along the same line, I don't understand why some people think a file stored on a CD is different than the same file stored on some other device. It makes no sense.

    On a side note, I was researching jitter last week, and there is something called "read jitter" on CD players which results from the laser trying to read the file off the CD. I gather this is minimized, or eliminated, by reading the file off a hard drive. Of course, there is probably some jitter associated with that. :wink:
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited May 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    Step up to the Dynavector and you'll love it even more. :biggrin:

    Been on the fence, but thinking something like this would be a cool to upload all my CDs onto. I'm with Larry, nothing wrong with having toys to play with.

    http://www.amazon.com/Iomega-35036-ScreenPlay-Media-Player/dp/B0047E35PW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1305502797&sr=8-4

    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Live-Media-Center/dp/B004GK0GKO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1305503042&sr=8-2

    I have been on the fence regarding this sort of thing as well. Forgive my ignorance here but what are the differences between this and the squeezebox ? Cheers. :cool:
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,201
    edited May 2011
    If one can achieve the same exact sound quality why wouldn't one go all digital?
    This is my goal , I'm damn close now.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited May 2011
    nap wrote: »
    I have been on the fence regarding this sort of thing as well. Forgive my ignorance here but what are the differences between this and the squeezebox ? Cheers. :cool:

    Main differences:

    1. All Squeezeboxes don't have an internal hard drive; they need a music server (i.e.: a desktop or a laptop). The Squeezebox Touch can accept a USB connected external hard drive, I haven't tried that option yet, but most seems to prefer the music server way.

    2. The ones in the 2 above links can also play video, now that all Squeezeboxes can't.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited May 2011
    ddmathis wrote: »
    Music on cd's are not compressed like wav or flac files.

    WAV and FLAC aren't compressed (as in lossy)...........get your learn on, please, before you start making false statements.

    H9
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2011
    I haven't bought a CD in quite a long time. I'm more than happy to go fully digital.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited May 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I haven't bought a CD in quite a long time. I'm more than happy to go fully digital.

    I still do but almost exclusively buy used cd's either at a local brick and mortar store or Amazon. At $2-5 a pop you can get some great music for not a lot of coin.

    I get them home, rip them to FLAC and add to the digital library. Cd's go on a shelf until furthur notice. Still not willing to pay full price or more for lossless digital downloads.

    I've long since tired of paying for a "new" cd. Since prices should have come down years ago.........but that arguement is for another time.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I still do but almost exclusively buy used cd's either at a local brick and mortar store or Amazon. At $2-5 a pop you can get some great music for not a lot of coin.

    I get them home, rip them to FLAC and add to the digital library. Cd's go on a shelf until furthur notice. Still not willing to pay full price or more for lossless digital downloads.

    I've long since tired of paying for a "new" cd. Since prices should have come down years ago.........but that arguement is for another time.

    H9

    I hear you on that H9 and that looks like a good system. I'll certainly buy some things if they are special, like a MoFi remaster or otherwise similar release for example. Typically it's me picking a couple songs vs an entire album nowadays so the extra cost of lossless downloading isn't a big issue for me personally. Not that it's a big issue with you, you get what I'm saying.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited May 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    Main differences:

    1. All Squeezeboxes don't have an internal hard drive; they need a music server (i.e.: a desktop or a laptop). The Squeezebox Touch can accept a USB connected external hard drive, I haven't tried that option yet, but most seems to prefer the music server way.

    2. The ones in the 2 above links can also play video, now that all Squeezeboxes can't.

    Thanks. That's kinda what I thought but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Cheers. :cool:
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2011
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dorokusai
    I haven't bought a CD in quite a long time. I'm more than happy to go fully digital.
    I still do but almost exclusively buy used cd's either at a local brick and mortar store or Amazon. At $2-5 a pop you can get some great music for not a lot of coin.

    I get them home, rip them to FLAC and add to the digital library. Cd's go on a shelf until furthur notice. Still not willing to pay full price or more for lossless digital downloads.

    I've long since tired of paying for a "new" cd. Since prices should have come down years ago.........but that arguement is for another time.
    Sure is a good way to go about it. I have been reluctant to go fully digital (music server) as I have been worried about eventually loosing the library (server craps out :eek:). Having the physical media at hand as back-up provides for the confidence of not loosing the entire library. Mark, how do you go about backing-up your music library?
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