I think my tv just died?

polkfarmboy
polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
edited April 2011 in Electronics
Has any forum members had a plasma tv die on them because I think it just happened to me

I had the laptop hooked up through hdmi and there was some crackling noises followed by some lines . I can press the power on and off but its blank

I paid $1800 for this 4 years ago so its a hard kick in balls
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited April 2011
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  • tonyb
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    edited April 2011
    What kind of plasma is it ?
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,537
    edited April 2011
    Try unplugging it from the wall for about 15 minutes, plug her back in and try again.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited April 2011
    I paid $1800 for this 4 years ago so its a hard kick in balls

    Given the rate at which TV technology is advancing at rates faster than home computing anymore, I'd say you about got your money's worth out of that TV.
    That plus TVs are getting cheaper and cheaper all the time.

    (I paid over $3k for my 1080i 300 lb projection HDTV. Less than 2 years later it was obsolete.)
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    Given the rate at which TV technology is advancing at rates faster than home computing anymore, I'd say you about got your money's worth out of that TV.
    That plus TVs are getting cheaper and cheaper all the time.

    (I paid over $3k for my 1080i 300 lb projection HDTV. Less than 2 years later it was obsolete.)

    Obsolete and dead are two different things.

    My parents bought a 2.6k DILA projection tv... 1 mo out of warranty I called on it because there was a giant green circle in the screen that had been developing for months.... I was told that I should be happy and tvs should only be expected to last 2 yrs.... really? so you spend 2.6k on a tv every two years? no... that's just an excuse for a poor product. If I buy a tv, I expect that it will last long enough to move from every room of the house...there's no reason a tv can't last 10 years....obsolete, yeah, but alive still.

    I still own my first lcd monitor.... just because new products come out, doesn't mean we throw our old stuff out and upgrade... few people can afford to do that in every aspect of their lives.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited April 2011
    Has any forum members had a plasma tv die on them because I think it just happened to me

    I had the laptop hooked up through hdmi and there was some crackling noises followed by some lines . I can press the power on and off but its blank

    I paid $1800 for this 4 years ago so its a hard kick in balls

    Maybe it wants to buy you an Easter basket and it's been sneaking down to the local plasma bank while you're away, and donating its plasma to raise the cash.
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  • slk55amg
    slk55amg Posts: 305
    edited April 2011
    I agree I have a 1994 Sony XBR 32inch crt, the picture today is as clear and sharp as the day it was new.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,687
    edited April 2011
    Four years is pretty good.

    I expect my TV's to last about 4-5yrs. Once they hit 4yrs old I expect them to kick the bucket any moment.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,059
    edited April 2011
    wow, low expectations some of you have. If I can't get 7 or 8 years out of a tv, I won't buy that brand again. So far, Sony is on my ignore list.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,233
    edited April 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    wow, low expectations some of you have. If I can't get 7 or 8 years out of a tv, I won't buy that brand again. So far, Sony is on my ignore list.

    Shame because in the industry Sony has the lowest failure rate out of all products across the board. They are also one of the highest rated custom Install products over the last decade.

    I have nothing but respect for their company.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,233
    edited April 2011
    Sorry to hear about your TV. 4 or 5 years in the field is not a long time. Plasmas I have Installed 10 years ago are still working today. I have not seen many TV's from anyone fail at a high rate. Lately Samsung has earned that honor with a few bad ones but I'm hoping it's a run of bad power supplies or something like that and they catch it fast.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2011
    My TV was a sanyo, nothing special but I thought it would have lasted longer as I did not use it that often

    Tony I had sony at the top of my list, have you had many problems with them?

    Mantis your a custom installer, Do you have a customer favorite as far as TV's are concerned?
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,233
    edited April 2011
    My TV was a sanyo, nothing special but I thought it would have lasted longer as I did not use it that often

    Tony I had sony at the top of my list, have you had many problems with them?

    Mantis your a custom installer, Do you have a customer favorite as far as TV's are concerned?
    Pioneer Elite Kuro was my favorite bar none. But today it's difficult as nothing still compares to these great TV's.

    Panasonic makes nice plasmas for a very good price. You get what you pay for. Solid and true.
    LG also makes very nice plasmas at a good price. Sexy looking and in some cases better then the Panasonic especially in the more affordable range.
    Samsung Plasma I love the picture but I have seen a few go bad. If this was not the case I would vote for them to be on top of my list. I'm hoping for a bad power supply run from them and they fix this quickly.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited April 2011
    I guess I should clarify that I still use the old obsolete TV I was referring to as my primary TV to this day - its about 7 years old, maybe 8, and it will probably last 15-20 years, especially considering that it gets light use relative to other TV owners.

    It will hit the landfill within 2-3 years and will look exactly as it did the day I bought it.

    My point on a TVs functional lifespan is shorter than ever isn't driven by reliability, its driven by technology.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,059
    edited April 2011
    mantis wrote: »
    Shame because in the industry Sony has the lowest failure rate out of all products across the board. They are also one of the highest rated custom Install products over the last decade.

    I have nothing but respect for their company.

    My bad experience comes at the heels of the older Sony lcd rear projection tv's. Bad light engines. Can't really speak of the newer models but they do get good reviews from what I read.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2011
    slk55amg wrote: »
    I agree I have a 1994 Sony XBR 32inch crt, the picture today is as clear and sharp as the day it was new.
    Same here, my first Sony Trinitron 27'' was bought in 96 I believe and is still going as strong as when I bought it. My second Sony also a 27'' is about 7 years and still kicking strong however, I have a hunch it might fail me before the older one.
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Four years is pretty good.

    I expect my TV's to last about 4-5yrs. Once they hit 4yrs old I expect them to kick the bucket any moment.
    :confused::eek:

    Hum, if so I will keep in mind to stay away from these new TVs.
    mantis wrote: »
    Shame because in the industry Sony has the lowest failure rate out of all products across the board. They are also one of the highest rated custom Install products over the last decade.

    I have nothing but respect for their company.
    I don't know about their new TVs but since Sony chose to move to cheap of shore manufacturing such as mexico, the failure much more current in their CRTs however, due to the extensive price paid were worht while fixing.
    My TV was a sanyo, nothing special but I thought it would have lasted longer as I did not use it that often

    Tony I had sony at the top of my list, have you had many problems with them?

    Mantis your a custom installer, Do you have a customer favorite as far as TV's are concerned?
    Ah! Now the more reason for me to not appealed by Sanyo. 1800$:eek: This is nuts paying that much money for this brand!:eek:
    mantis wrote: »
    ...Panasonic makes nice plasmas for a very good price. You get what you pay for. Solid and true.
    LG also makes very nice plasmas at a good price. Sexy looking and in some cases better then the Panasonic especially in the more affordable range.
    Samsung Plasma I love the picture but I have seen a few go bad. If this was not the case I would vote for them to be on top of my list. I'm hoping for a bad power supply run from them and they fix this quickly.
    Panasonic earned my respect. I always been a Sony fan but as a repair man, I've noticed Panasonic made more reliable-better quality TVs than Sony. Sansung does not appeal much to me, too many issues when repairing them. LG was at birth when I closed my shop but LG is to my knowledge is built from defunct low end companies such as Goldstar (was their name in the past and were cheapest of the cheapest products (even worse than Sanyo IMO)), Zenith (which for their last years of life were also crappy products), I believe few other crappy brands were acquired by LG but memory is failing to recall the names.

    IMO, considering I would aim toward Panasonic and Sony as first choices avoiding Samsung and LG but I guess this is very subjective since I've been away from the repair business for a few years.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2011
    My bad experience comes at the heels of the older Sony lcd rear projection tv's. Bad light engines. Can't really speak of the newer models but they do get good reviews from what I read.
    If you consider, every brand had issues with rear projection TVs. RCA seemed to be the worst of all, follwoed by Toshiba and as I can recall Sony still had less issues than most brands for that technology (I am not sure if Panasonic ever made them).
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    If you consider, every brand had issues with rear projection TVs. RCA seemed to be the worst of all, follwoed by Toshiba and as I can recall Sony still had less issues than most brands for that technology (I am not sure if Panasonic ever made them).

    Sony had a class action lawsuit though.... which leads me to believe their ability to take care of customers was subpar, and the issues were widespread.

    speaking of old tvs, I just heaved a really heavy **** 30 some inch jvc from my childhood into the dumpster... not because it was broken, but for the sheer satisfaction of watching 100 some odd pounds of old technology fall 9 feet onto hard steel. this thing had to be nearly 20 years old.
  • scottyboy76
    scottyboy76 Posts: 2,905
    edited April 2011
    I dont know where your info is from, but consumer reports disagrees, at least the last few issues on tv dependability i have seen.

    Also, just about any blog or website ,you will find a hell of a lot of sony lovers from way back thoroughly disgusted by their flat panel products
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2011
    I'm with most of those above. My Toshiba Rear Projection CRT 1080i set is six years old and looks as 'good' today as it did in 2005 or was it 2004?

    LCD screens and lighting are good for 60,000 hours--which is almost 7 years of use if you never turned the set off--ran it 24/7--which no one does. Under normal use that's over two decades not 2 or 3 years.

    Now, undoubtedly as more sets fly into people's houses, manufacturers will 'gradually' decrease 60K and 100,000 hour values (somewhere I read that some high end plasmas would go for 100K) so that we'll buy sets more often. After all a couple of decades is a bit too good for consumers.

    My old tube sets include a 19" Sharp bought in 1988 (23 years and still running?), a 27" ProScan 1993--audio has died but the picture is still almost like new--use a VCR tuner for the sound through an AVR. 18 years!

    And so on. So if I ever had a set that lasted less than 4 or 5 years I'd be 'really' miffed. In fact, if it didn't make a decade I'd be irritated.

    Like CwithV says above... a lot of us can't afford to replace our sets every 2 or 3 years.

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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,687
    edited April 2011
    My last TV was a Sony RP LCD, maybe that's why I have such low expectations... Then again it was moved around the North East 4 different times during it's 5.5 year life.

    Use is also a major factor. I have a 4 year old 42" LG LCD in my pool table room and I expect that TV to last me 10+ years. It only comes on for sporting events while playing pool...
  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited April 2011
    mantis wrote: »
    Shame because in the industry Sony has the lowest failure rate out of all products across the board. They are also one of the highest rated custom Install products over the last decade.

    I have nothing but respect for their company.

    Sony should have the lowest failure rate for the insane prices they charge for their TV's.. :tongue:

    But sadly IMHO Sony is not worth the money you spend on them.

    I have had my Panasonic Plasma for over 7 years now without issue. And why I now own 3 Panny Plamsms.

    Samsung is going down hill fast with their products.

    LG is getting much much better and I would buy LG over Samsung anyday
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited April 2011
    Panny also rates their plasma for 100K hours to half life. Which is great but there are other issues that can happen prior to the hours rating. Personally I love panny plasma and will be getting one in a couple months for a bedroom and always think they have very good quality for what they are.

    The one thing that constantly bothers me about Samsung's plasma's is the buzzing. If your close to it with it being muted you just can hear a constant buzzing sound that bugs me.

    It doesn't make sense for the lifespan anymore but I think it also plays into how people take care of them. Such as if someone likes to throw a blanket over their TV when its hot and wonder why it started on fire...
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    grif32 wrote: »
    Sony should have the lowest failure rate for the insane prices they charge for their TV's.. :tongue:

    I have had my Panasonic Plasma for over 7 years now without issue. And why I now own 3 Panny Plamsms.

    Or the highest levels of service.

    I know someone who had an XBR II 50 something odd inch and a bunch of pixels died, so they sent a tech out to replace the panel.... that's all good and all, but I don't understand why companies still operate like this. Having a customer wait for a tech, or bring the tv to one is hard enough... then you have the cost of labor and the chance that the repair will not be successful... you have the cost of stocking old parts, ect, ect.

    I don't see why companies don't simply send a replacement first (with a credit card on file) or send a box for you to return yours in then send a replacement. This way, the customer gets a brand new whatever, more likely to work (same % of failure as original), and they are happy. Also, the company can decide what to do with the old model... they can have someone in house repair it (probably cheaper) and sell it, or they can sell them off in bulk as is. Seems an all around better option for electronics... but maybe I'm missing something
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2011
    We spoke of Sony, Panasonic, Samsung and LG. I don't think I've ever since any comments (good or bad) about either Toshiba and Mitsubishi panels. Any owners comments?
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  • slk55amg
    slk55amg Posts: 305
    edited April 2011
    I have been buying SONY since 1972, I like the brand, quality, reliability, build quality, expensive yes.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,687
    edited April 2011
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    The one thing that constantly bothers me about Samsung's plasma's is the buzzing. If your close to it with it being muted you just can hear a constant buzzing sound that bugs me.

    I have never heard my Samsung plasma buzz.

    niether does my fathers 58" Samsung.

    Or my best friends 50" Samsung.

    Same with the 50" Samsung that my Boss owns.

    Point is, a FEW Samsungs had a slight buzz issue. I heard ONE in a store, and you had to be on top of the muted TV to hear it. IIRC, if you did have a buzzer, Samsung took care of it.
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited April 2011
    Sorry about the failure of the set. I heard years ago as either wives tale or urban legend that plasmas burn out or fail faster than LCDs. I own a 37in Tosiba LCD and have no complaints except that it should be a 42. NOW is this true about plasmas burning out or their life expectancy is less than others...
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  • byfthalone
    byfthalone Posts: 345
    edited April 2011
    Work part time at Best Buy and 4 years does seem a little soon for the TV to be going out. Not that it's unheard of but still a little soon. It is interesting that those who come in to purchase seldom ask our opinion on tv's; generally they already have a predetermined idea or brand preference and that's fine. Frankly, the top brands are all the same although Panasonic seems to have the best plasma with Samsung closing. I do like the new Samsung LED "SMART" tv's and they have such small footprints now they look awesome.
  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited April 2011
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    I have never heard my Samsung plasma buzz.

    niether does my fathers 58" Samsung.

    Or my best friends 50" Samsung.

    Same with the 50" Samsung that my Boss owns.

    Point is, a FEW Samsungs had a slight buzz issue. I heard ONE in a store, and you had to be on top of the muted TV to hear it. IIRC, if you did have a buzzer, Samsung took care of it.

    Lol Samsung had more then just a FEW Slight Buzz issue. It's well known just how loud Samsungs can get. You got lucky, many others have not. I returned two Samsung 3D Plasma's a couple months ago due to their crazy loud buzzing and just got another panny.

    My brother returned his Samsung due to crazy buzzing and the 2nd one is much better.

    My sister retured her Samsung due to crazy buzzing and went with a Panny.

    All just purchased a couple months ago.

    I agree they took care of it, but it was a big problem not just a few buzzed. I am talking you can hear the buzzing 10 ft away with the sound up on the TV.
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