Rebranding HFCS as "Corn Sugar"?

Jstas

Yes, it's true. The Corn Refiners Association (yes, there is such a thing) has decided unilaterally that High Fructose Corn Syrup has gotten a bad rap. Therefore, they have applied to the feds for the permission to change the name to "Corn Sugar" on the labeling. I think the whole thing is silly.

Sorry that's The Huffington Post but it was the only recent news story that showed up in a news search.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/corn-sugar-high-fructose-corn-syrup_n_716007.html

A webcomic that I read has been addressing the absurdity of this the past couple days and well, I had to share!




You can read more of Sheldon at http://www.sheldoncomics.com

packetjones

Whats sad is that if the name change goes through there are some people who will think it is all better now. i hate HFCS and try to avoid it as much as I can. It is scary when you start to look at some of the studies done about it.

bobman1235

Well we've already successfully rebranded "fat lardass" as "normal" so why not?

Jstas

On a side note, why don't people use terms like "Saints alive!" or "Givin' me the vapors!" anymore?

zingo

Jstas wrote: »

On a side note, why don't people use terms like "Saints alive!" or "Givin' me the vapors!" anymore?

And how!

punk-roc

Boy Howdy!

kevhed72

bobman1235 wrote: »

Well we've already successfully rebranded "fat lardass" as "normal" so why not?

Another classic from the Bobman.

HFCS is partly a result of the Governement subsidizing corn farmers...corn is sold below cost / overproduced, so we get HFCS added to everything vs. real sugar. At least the current budget battle in Washington is taking aim at these types of subsidies :rolleyes: I'll shut up now...

cokewithvanilla

That's america for you.... you've got a problem? change the name and it's fixed...

zingo

In my opinion, sugar is sugar and calories are calories. Eating too much of any sugar, refined or not is not good for you, and may pack on the pounds. I can't blame any industry for trying to retool a product so that it has a better public image. Just like with audio cables or anything else polarized; if you don't like it, don't buy it. But respect people who want to make that choice.

cokewithvanilla

That's true... people aren't fat because of the labeling... they are fat because they fall into one or more of the following categories: Lazy, stupid, careless, really poor genetics.

In food inc. they tried to argue that poverty should be one of those categories... and that is stupid (unless you consider the exorbitant amount of food stamps given out.. that could do it). The family in the movie claim that 'soda' is cheaper than anything else, so they buy it.... guess they dunno what water is. They also claim that BK is cheaper than cooking your own food.... that's just ignorant. It costs me around $7-10 to eat at BK and actually fill me up... it costs $1.50-2 for a pound of chicken that is not only good for you, but fills you up pretty darn well.

kevhed72

I think lack of education is a more direct link to unhealthy eating than poverty. But, there are inner city neighborhoods deemed "food desserts" with few or any grocery stores within a "reasonable" distance.

cokewithvanilla

kevhed72 wrote: »

"food desserts"

yum

I suppose... but in order to go to work, you likely have to pass through an area with a grocery store.

bobman1235

zingo wrote: »

In my opinion, sugar is sugar and calories are calories. Eating too much of any sugar, refined or not is not good for you, and may pack on the pounds. I can't blame any industry for trying to retool a product so that it has a better public image. Just like with audio cables or anything else polarized; if you don't like it, don't buy it. But respect people who want to make that choice.

Mostly true, but someone did point me (I think on this very forum) to a study that showed HFCS actually, against common sense / wisdom, increases obesity more per "calorie" than regular sugar.

inspiredsports

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

That's america for you.... you've got a problem? change the name and it's fixed...

Yep. Froze my **** off yet again yesterday watching my son's varsity baseball game. We've been at it for a month with average game temps at 40 degrees and 10+ mph winds keeping wind chill at or below freezing.

It's no longer "global warming", but now "climate change" and our super cold weather is supposedly just part of it.

Go "Corn Sugar"!

lsiehler

Cawn likkah be mo' like it!

tonyb

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

yum

I suppose... but in order to go to work, you likely have to pass through an area with a grocery store.

True...true....but you assume they are actually going to work to begin with.

Education only goes so far, the rest is the "I don't give a crap" attitude of alot of parents. You can educate all you want, people will still buy want they want, good or bad healthwise. You can go into any grocery store in higher end,well educated neighborhoods, the twinkies still fly off the shelves.

Food manufacturers will find a way to make money, period. Your health is of no concern to them. Thats your job, and if you didn't buy stuff with high fructose corn syrup,they would stop selling it. Usually products that contain CS are cheaper and appeal to those stretching the grocery budget. Which is a good portion of the general public. Bottom line is it's your choice to eat healthy or not.

disneyjoe7

I still ask this....


If Liquid Sugar is ok for Soda, and everything else, why don't they sell it on the shelf like sugar. Because in my mind we as consumers would not buy it, so why do we put up with it in our food?

Jstas

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

I still ask this....


If Liquid Sugar is ok for Soda, and everything else, why don't they sell it on the shelf like sugar. Because in my mind we as consumers would not buy it, so why do we put up with it in our food?

They do. It's called Corn Syrup.

Karo is one of the brands I see most often:

http://www.karosyrup.com/products.html

Comes in clear, tan and brown. Also, liquid cane sugar is available in most medical supply stores and it's called sucrose. You can even get it in tubes for diabetics. Also, another form of liquid sugar is molasses. Granted, it doesn't have as much sugar in it as syrups do but it is classified as a sweetener. Since it's a by product of the sugar refining process, it's also classified as "all natural".

In fact, a killer pecan pie calls for corn syrup as part of the filling. It's also used in frosting for all those Christmas cookies and cakes as well as fruitcake.

Hell, if you buy any of the junk pancake syrups like Aunt Jemima, Mrs Butterworth's, Log Cabin or whatever, you're essentially buying corn syrup with flavorings and colorings as well as preservatives added. The cheaper brands use HFCS. The less cheaper brands use corn syrup that's not as refined and more resembles a sucrose than a fructose.

scottyboy76

get off your high horses, you eat too much, dont exercise, you get fat and diseased.

a couple points, we also subsidize sugar to the point that political buddys of high office holders are familys full of billionaires.

I love when someone so ignorant posts, Yeah well like if they tried to sell it man, nobody would buy it, when corn syrup and molasses are some of the oldest sweeteners we have.

Some people are always looking for stupid **** under a government rock, like corn syrup is poisoning us, and the black helicopters are dropping it off, when the real honest to goodness crime perpetrated on us by open blatant political crooks who dont even have to pretend anymore,are there in the open if you just look.

Destroy the feds, except for protection against foreign forces, some intl tradingand a couple minor duties, as the founding fathers meant, give yourselves back the responsibility for policing your own local issues, and quit asking for people in iowa to help pay for a mobster controlled big dig tunnell in boston, one of the worst cesspools in the history of mankind, or san francisco liberal policys spending until their ious are unmpayable, then self assuredly counting on some wyoming small business owner to pay their debts at the point of a fed 9 mm and maybe we can start the painful process of becoming sane and great again.

oh, and if you want corn syrup, eat it, if you want to eat so much of it you become a fat diabetic, helpless lardass, then switch to cane sugar, because its so good for you.

scottyboy76

The inner city deserts are that way because even the immigrant asian grocers who work 24 hours a day to try to make a future for their children, eventually give up being robbed, stabbed, shot, and then picketed by"CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS"if they even raise their voice as the urban hiphop enthusiasts are laughing with their homeys after behaving like animals once again just for fun or advancement in their inner city social club.

Then of course we can all be treated to yet another nightly news story about how this horrible racist country will leave its poor minority chirrens in an urban desert, when in fact the decent people finally just give up turn out the light and try to find a decent group of people to live their lives around.

But i tell you what, i truly believe the day is coming, and very soon, when the corrupt false veil of competence and solidity of our sick society finally falls, and the decent among us can once again defend themselves without concern for false prophets intervening using paid thugs in uniforms and judges robes while excusing and even rewarding the animal pepetrators
things will change very fast.

the bloods will be bloody, the crips will be in crypts, the meth and coke and heroin leeches will be on their own, and the politicians and professional protestors will have to work for a living ,AFTER ATLAS SHRUGS

Jstas

Wow.

Guess you set us all straight, huh?

Thanks. Dunno what I would do without you!

FYI, nobody is on a high horse except for you.

scottyboy76

jstas, you were one of the posts that told the truth.

you were the one that informed that corn syrup has been readily available forever, but you are welcome anyway

Earthy

I thought one of the (many?) down sides to HFCS was how it didn't give you that blood sugar rush to tell you you've had enough. A few years back I bought some of the DP made with cane sugar. I was amazed how I could barely drink a 12oz can, where I could easily finish a 2 liter of the HFCS blend.

scottyboy76

i can drink a couple sips of the sugary soda, and the liquid takes it right to your blood.

awful

any sugar, unless just a little used on something, such as syrup or jelly, is just bad news, especially if you arent going to burn it off immediately with physical exertion, but sugar is sugar is sugar.

What i would love to know, is nutrasweet as safe as it has been presented.

So many diametrically opposed so called scientific studys, its worrisome.

treitz3

Daggum, Scottyboy. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today or what?

scottyboy76

I kinda got carried away.

Its just frustrating, seeing people refer others to the paragon of truth, arianna huffington, to root out whats really important to our country,exposing this sugar peddling taxpayer supported industry over that sugar peddling tax payer supported industry.

But i did kinda go overboard.

PhantomOG

dunno about health effects or government conspiracies, but Mexican bottled Coke with real sugar tastes 100 times better than the stuff with HFCS. Every time I barbeque for the family I make sure to pick up a case from Costco.

txcoastal1

We live in the spin zone

bobman1235

Wow this thread turned crazy in a hurry.

Face

I believe Scotty had a little too much sugar today.

treitz3

Hehe...

scottyboy76 wrote:

But I did kinda go overboard.

It's alright. It happens. I hope you feel better now. :biggrin: