So people don't sing live at concerts anymore?

Danny Tse
Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
edited April 2011 in The Clubhouse
So I am reading this article on Britney Spears' upcoming tour and how Enrique Iglesias ditched the tour within 24 hours of her announcing of his participation. However, the following from the article struck me as odd....
Britney doesn't sing live anymore and barely dances, but her tours always make big bucks for a concert industry riddled with low ticket sales

So why does anyone pay to go see her show? Am I that "old school" that I shouldn't expected to hear some live singing at a concert nowadays? I mean, I can understand some lip-sync happening at this type of shows....but not one single song sung live? And no dancing??!! For the price of her tickets ($115 or $372), I should get some kind private dance from Britney :biggrin: :wink:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited March 2011
    For $372, you could do alot better than her.
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2011
    I'm not sure why anyone would want to go see her. Tony is 110% right.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,765
    edited March 2011
    The Wailin Jennys sing live. Not only that, they traditionally sing their final encore, The Parting Glass, utterly a cappella (no microphones, no electronics, no speakers) to close their shows. Three stunning voices. No pitch correction.

    www.thewailinjennys.com

    (saw 'em Sunday night at the Somerville Theatre...)
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  • slk55amg
    slk55amg Posts: 305
    edited March 2011
    How much does one have to pay to not see or hear Britney?
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited March 2011
    slk55amg wrote: »
    How much does one have to pay to make her go away?

    There I fixed it for you.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited March 2011
    Lots of "pop" artists (and yes, I use the term artist loosely) don't sing live, and haven't for a long time. The best singer in the world couldn't sing well while dancing and bouncing around.

    Also... she's a pop star catering to teenage girls. Is it really a surprise that an adult male doesn't like her music? That's like asking why anyone would ever watch Barney or something.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited March 2011
    I apologize to any Britney fans out there but I can find more talent and better looks at the local Wal-Mart for free and I live in a rural area of the South, if that tells you anything. If you don't get "live" at a live show then an overpriced $10.00 CD or DVD for Britney would do just fine for the lack of talent you see.

    Personally? I'd rather spend that $10.00 to give to the Donald Trump champagne fund. I'm quite sure it will be many times more well spent there.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited March 2011
    DSkip wrote: »
    One reason I love Dave Matthews so much. He is very live, and each time you see him you get a different show. You never know what version of a song you'll end up with til its done.

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited March 2011
    Where have you guys been? You think contemporary pop "music" is about music? :tongue:

    Nooooooooooooooo. It's all about the "experience", the (soft core sexual) fantasy being played out on stage. Teenage boys want to do Britney and teenage girls want to be (as sexy and desirable as) Britney.:smile:
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2011
    not surprising these days.. with today's "musical artists", they can't sing live.. they relay to much on studio "tricks" to make them sound good.

    get her CD and save yourself $350 :wink:
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  • treitz3
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    edited March 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    not surprising these days.. with today's "musical artists", they can't sing live.. they relay to much on studio "tricks" to make them sound good.
    I had a conversation recently with one of the editors of Stereophile magazine talking about the same thing. Damned shame.
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited March 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    The best singer in the world couldn't sing well while dancing and bouncing around.

    Britney is a totally awesome singer and can do this !!!! {WARNING... while watching this you may get a sudden urge to fill your ear canals with concrete}


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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2011
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    For the price of her tickets ($115 or $372), I should get some kind private dance from Britney :biggrin: :wink:

    Tell the truth, Danny! You bought the $372 ticket just so you can sit close enough in anticipation of a wardrobe malfunction. :wink:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited March 2011
    Tell ya Danny, I've been to San Fran, I saw homeless girls better looking than Brit.
    $372....that girl would be mine for a month.
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited March 2011
    I think Auto Tune is just to hard to produce at a live show to get these no tallent singers to sound "Marketable". It is much easer to hit play on a media player. You have to have a good voice and tallent to sing live. The jean pool is pretty shallow if non existant in the pop world.

    Do a You tube search for a live video of any Ke$ha song. It really shows how bad she sounds.
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    edited March 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Tell ya Danny, I've been to San Fran, I saw homeless girls better looking than Brit.
    $372....that girl would be mine for a month.

    You sure they were homeless girls in SF....:biggrin:
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    edited March 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I apologize to any Britney fans out there but I can find more talent and better looks at the local Wal-Mart for free and I live in a rural area of the South, if that tells you anything.

    That was a masterful use of the scalpel, sir ! You could have been a surgeon.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited March 2011
    Doesnt surprise me at all, there are few that can carry a tune at all let alone have perfect pitch. Fergie, The pussycat dolls, Katy Perry are just a few examples of absolutley zero singing ability.

    Surprisingly enough Pink and Lady GaGa no matter how much you dislike their lifestyle or songs can actually sing, their songs sound the same live as they do on their studio recordings.



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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2011
    Britney never really did sing live. Always lip sync and this happens a lot with pop music today. Now throw in auto-tune and if they do decide to sing live they never have to worry about being in tune.

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    edited March 2011
    maximillian wrote: »
    Britney is a totally awesome singer and can do this !!!! {WARNING... while watching this you may get a sudden urge to fill your ear canals with concrete}


    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/u2uqcQDmy9w&quot; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    OMG--that was painful!

    jbooker82 wrote: »
    I think Auto Tune is just to hard to produce at a live show to get these no tallent singers to sound "Marketable". It is much easer to hit play on a media player. You have to have a good voice and tallent to sing live. The jean pool is pretty shallow if non existant in the pop world.

    Do a You tube search for a live video of any Ke$ha song. It really shows how bad she sounds.

    Seriously?? The JEAN pool? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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  • bikezappa
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    edited April 2011
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    The Wailin Jennys sing live. Not only that, they traditionally sing their final encore, The Parting Glass, utterly a cappella (no microphones, no electronics, no speakers) to close their shows. Three stunning voices. No pitch correction.

    www.thewailinjennys.com

    (saw 'em Sunday night at the Somerville Theatre...)

    Agree completely, this is the only real LIVE music.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2011
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Where have you guys been? You think contemporary pop "music" is about music? :tongue:

    Nooooooooooooooo. It's all about the "experience", the (soft core sexual) fantasy being played out on stage. Teenage boys want to do Britney and teenage girls want to be (as sexy and desirable as) Britney.:smile:

    Also agree completely because it's not about how they sound but how they LOOK.

    Or as Lenny Bruce said we are selling "**** and ****".
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited April 2011
    To correct you heading. "People with no talent like Britney Spears lipsync in concert".

    I prefer my singers to have talent like: Sara Evans, Brad Paisley, Styx, Iron Maiden, and people that actually use instruments in concert. I have never needed to see any of the so called Pop Stars in concert. Probably because Pops Stars on average are more about There Look, Dancing and Posing than the music they fake singing.

    PS, Any song with Auto-tune in it is ignored by me. That is why I hate most of the songs on Glee and I only watch it on occasion cause the wife loves that stupid show.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    It is just amazing to me that grown men are arguing over a kid's pop singer, and comparing her to actual artists, as if anyone is gonig to disagree with you.

    It's like comparing the latest Hannah Montana movie to Casablanca. It doesn't even make sense. Let it go.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited April 2011
    Good point Bobman, but then again, this is Club Polk,where we argue over $1.50 for a pizza.

    Personally, I wouldn't pay to see anyone lip sync their music. I gather those that do are more interested in the vegas style show on stage that goes with many pop concerts these days. My idea of a live concert,for example, is what Springsteen does.
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  • VR3
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    edited April 2011
    Katy Perry can actually sing from what I have seen of her unplugged
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    I would love to see her unplugged.

    Wink wink.
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  • VR3
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    edited April 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2xsYnAfVg
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2xsYnAfVg
    Compare that performance with the same recorded studio song and you will hear the difference is vast, anyone can repeat the words but to make it sound like the song that was recorded on the CD is difficult if not impossible for most icluding Katy Perry, sorry the words dont flow like they should, the timing, pitch etc is way off.

    If you were to hear a true performer like Willie Nelson for example his concerts sound the same as his studio recordings that is the mark of a true talented artist
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited April 2011
    For $372 you could get a hooker to sit on your lap and sing anything you want. Or just hum a few.
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