"I do intend to kill this man"

ohskigod

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

people amaze me. How retarded do you have to be to go to the press and say you're going to kill someone

you only have to be a guy that has nothing else to care about. if he follows through, do you think he cares about jail?

call him retarded all you want, but if the offender gets off, I will not be getting in that man's way. I'll be the guy pointing and saying "he went thataway brotha"

cokewithvanilla

ohskigod wrote: »

you only have to be a guy that has nothing else to care about. if he follows through, do you think he cares about jail?

call him retarded all you want, but if the offender gets off, I will not be getting in that man's way. I'll be the guy pointing and saying "he went thataway brotha"

My reason for him being retarded it is twofold. 1. his chances of pulling it off now that he announced it are greatly diminished. 2. he will go to jail, maybe even for attempted murder, which would really piss him off

if I wanted to kill someone, I probably wouldn't tell them... that just gives them a chance to mount a defense, and I probably wouldn't tell every police officer, which gives them a greater opportunity to either put me away BEFORE i do it, protect the individual in question, or catch me in the act.... his stupidity has nothing to do with his not caring about anything else

txcoastal1

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

My reason for him being retarded it is twofold. 1. his chances of pulling it off now that he announced it are greatly diminished. 2. he will go to jail, maybe even for attempted murder, which would really piss him off

if I wanted to kill someone, I probably wouldn't tell them... that just gives them a chance to mount a defense, and I probably wouldn't tell every police officer, which gives them a greater opportunity to either put me away BEFORE i do it, protect the individual in question, or catch me in the act.... his stupidity has nothing to do with his not caring about anything else

There maybe a hole in his life that nothing but revenge could fill....to each his own in this case

An eye for an eye

inspiredsports

mdaudioguy wrote: »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20040545-504083.html

I probably wouldn't have told everybody first, though.

If Woodmansee (the confessed murderer) is released early, and Mr. Foreman (father of the murdered 5 year old boy whose flesh Woodmansee ate off of the child's bones) needs a hand, my sincere hope is that tens of thousands will volunteer to help him out.

cokewithvanilla

txcoastal1 wrote: »

There maybe a hole in his life that nothing but revenge could fill....to each his own in this case

An eye for an eye

Umm.. why is everyone ignoring my logic? He can kill the guy, i don't care... but I am saying that by announcing it, he has greatly lowered his chance of ever achieving his goal... therefore, he is retarded... or just wants media attention.

fossy

tonyb wrote: »

If I was in that situation, that sucker would never had made it to jail. Period.

ditto

ben62670

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

My reason for him being retarded it is twofold. 1. his chances of pulling it off now that he announced it are greatly diminished. 2. he will go to jail, maybe even for attempted murder, which would really piss him off

if I wanted to kill someone, I probably wouldn't tell them... that just gives them a chance to mount a defense, and I probably wouldn't tell every police officer, which gives them a greater opportunity to either put me away BEFORE i do it, protect the individual in question, or catch me in the act.... his stupidity has nothing to do with his not caring about anything else

1: The killer will only be protected for a short period of time. He will be scared crappless every time he hears a noise.

My cousin was killed by Micheal Ross. My uncle was "dead" since the day he identified her sexually abused body in the swamp where Ross left her. I saw his face on the news when he came out of that swamp. If Ross had been let go my uncle would have certainly finished him off, and wouldn't have cared what happened to him. As for the guy in question. I don't know if he really has what it takes to do it. When you grow up and have a daughter that was brutally murdered please tell us how rational you are thinking Mr I answer the door with a gun. BTW if I ever feel threatened enough that I feel I need to answer the door with a gun. I won't answer the door.
Thanks
Ben

txcoastal1

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

Umm.. why is everyone ignoring my logic? He can kill the guy, i don't care... but I am saying that by announcing it, he has greatly lowered his chance of ever achieving his goal... therefore, he is retarded... or just wants media attention.

the point is maybe he does'nt give a s@#t as long as the guy is dead

fossy

I would want all the "media attention" that I could get if I was him.....if this guy does get out , it just might be enough to stop this from happening again...


oooo wait is that Ted Nugent on the parole board sayin " ya he's good to go"

txcoastal1

fossy wrote: »

I would want all the "media attention" that I could get if I was him.....if this guy does get out , it just might be enough to stop this from happening again...


oooo wait is that Ted Nugent on the parole board sayin " ya he's good to go"

That's why I love Texas....get a rope

cokewithvanilla

ben62670 wrote: »

1: The killer will only be protected for a short period of time. He will be scared crappless every time he hears a noise.

My cousin was killed by Micheal Ross. My uncle was "dead" since the day he identified her sexually abused body in the swamp where Ross left her. I saw his face on the news when he came out of that swamp. If Ross had been let go my uncle would have certainly finished him off, and wouldn't have cared what happened to him. As for the guy in question. I don't know if he really has what it takes to do it. When you grow up and have a daughter that was brutally murdered please tell us how rational you are thinking Mr I answer the door with a gun. BTW if I ever feel threatened enough that I feel I need to answer the door with a gun. I won't answer the door.
Thanks
Ben

Ok, so if the guy is put in protective custody, or relocated outside the U.S. under protection.. .then what? Besides, he is underestimating this guy by telling him his plans. If someone said they were gonna kill me, I'd damn well fortify my house.... or simply leave the country and disappear (in the case that I knew it was serious)... or ever consider that this guy might go ahead and take a proactive stance and try to murder his would be murderer? No matter how small of an effect this has on the guys outcome, it has ONLY a negative effect, not a positive one... so it is not smart to announce.

...what's with the ridiculously weak insults? I am obviously more rational that this eff-tard. I don't answer the door 'with a gun' because I feel threatened, I answer the door with a gun on my hip, because that is how I conduct nearly every activity of my life. If you think it's stupid, fine, but stop trying to make it into some weak insult.. it's totally not insulting. I'll carry a gun to the door, to the daycare center, to an anti-gun rally , etc, no matter what you say. Your opinion is one thing, but your insults are unnecessary.

txcoastal1 wrote: »

the point is maybe he does'nt give a s@#t as long as the guy is dead

Did you miss it again? He just made his job much more difficult by announcing this.... what if he can't kill the guy now that it was announced? what if the guy hides immediately, or is put into protective custody or relocated outside the u.s.? I'm just saying, announcing this cannot benefit him in any way, but can intentionally hurt him from accomplishing the thing he announced.

This guy isn't a professional killer, just an angry parent. He's going against someone who has the ability to kill without remorse... he needs every advantage he can get.

Also, his announcement might make him ineligible to purchase a firearm, sure they can be had illegally, and other weapons can be had... but again... making his job harder

ben62670

Seriously how old are you? Do you really think that someone is going to relocate him? You think he is going to be free when let out of jail? He will be on parole, and he will not be allowed any weapons. Do you really think that anyone cares about him? Sure he may be protected at first, but that isn't going to last long. You insult yourself more than anyone insults you.
Carry on.

cokewithvanilla

ben62670 wrote: »

Seriously how old are you? Do you really think that someone is going to relocate him? Do you really think that anyone cares about him? Sure he may be protected at first, but that isn't going to last long. You insult yourself more than anyone insults you.
Carry on.

Ugh. So you think announcing his intentions was a smart thing? What advantage could this possibly gain him in carrying out his plan?

Whether or not the cops want to protect him, he will probably be protected. To what extent doesn't matter. the simple fact of knowing who is gunning for him gives him an advantage.

Ok, I insult myself. A bunch of people on the internet think I am stupid... I care because? Sure, the majority of the U.S. doesn't carry, but a lot of them do. I am not going to feel stupid, no matter who thinks so, being a part of that crowd.

ben62670

No I don't think it was too smart. It doesn't matter after time passes.

Who cares if you know someone is after you? Your a gun nut. I mean a nut with a gun. the guy packing has better odds than the guy not packing. Guess who won't be packing. You guessed it. The guy already convicted or murder.

I know a lot of the guys that "insulted" you. You underestimate who has what. They are smart enough not to announce it

Again oh wise one how old are you?

cokewithvanilla

ben62670 wrote: »

No I don't think it was too smart. It doesn't matter after time passes.

Who cares if you know someone is after you? Your a gun nut. I mean a nut with a gun. the guy packing has better odds than the guy not packing. Guess who won't be packing. You guessed it. The guy already convicted or murder.

I know a lot of the guys that "insulted" you. You underestimate who has what. They are smart enough not to announce it

Again oh wise one how old are you?

Like I said, the guy who announced that he is going to murder someone probably won't be sold a gun by a gun shop. So, both characters are in the same boat in finding a weapon.

So, you say that the act of me saying that I carry makes me somehow worse off? There are entire forums about concealed/open carry. You assume that they all just made themselves worse off? Hell, I OC when it's hot or depending on my clothing. I am not protecting myself against honest citizens, like the members of this forum. Beyond that, I don't announce my personal information on the forum... if any of you saw me in person, none of you would recognize me. Not that that makes a difference, I go under the assumption that everyone is armed... it makes no difference to me whether or not you actually are.

Wise one? I am stating my opinions... whether or not I am right is whatever... but you just said you don't think it's smart... I wasn't trying to make an argument. .... I was stating something that should be obvious. Can any of you think of a situation where it's a good idea to tell the world (and all the police in it) that you are going to commit a crime?

edit: it's amazing how much flak I get for saying I had the nerve to carry a gun to my door, but this guy gets people standing behind him for being stupid because he has some noble motive... stupid is stupid no matter how you dress it.

ben62670

Who says he doesn't have one, and who said it was a wise choice to say what he did?
If you were a light bulb we would find you in the Christmas tree lighting Isle.
Please say something intellegent.
Thanks
Ben

BTW how old are you?

cokewithvanilla

ben62670 wrote: »

Who says he doesn't have one, and who said it was a wise choice to say what he did?
If you were a light bulb we would find you in the Christmas tree lighting Isle.
Please say something intellegent.
Thanks
Ben

BTW how old are you?

This is true, he could have a gun.

Comments like "if he follows through, do you think he cares about jail?" led me to continue reiterating my point. My whole point that was that he might not be able to follow through because of what he said. Obviously, the poster of that didn't think announcing it would affect the outcome.

Please say something intelligent? I didn't think I was trying to be 'intelligent'... perhaps it's your turn for intelligence, all you've done is made some rather unintelligent and uninformed insults. i'm sure that seems smart to you... because, as we all know, by totally disregarding someones opinion without actually addressing the issues raised in said opinion makes you, by default, more intelligent. :rolleyes:

So, if you think something I said is unintelligent, please, quote me and prove me wrong either with logic or with facts.

ben62670

I am not going to quote nearly all your posts here or in your other thread.
Good night.

Jstas

Am I missing something or is the welfare of the convict not as nearly important in this equation as the fact that if the convict turns up dead, Mr. Foreman has made himself prime suspect numero uno. Not only that but he has also demonstrated motive as well as pre-meditation which makes it murder in the 1st degree. That's life if not capital punishment.

Now I think what the guy did to the dude's kid sucks beyond words. But that doesn't absolve him from responsibility for his words and actions. The police have to absolutely take him seriously and they have, on the charge of terroristic threats alone, grounds to arrest this guy. This distraught man, in a moment of weakness, has compromised his life over a waste of a meatbag and that's the worst thing about this story.

Only a foolish kid would think that the media coverage would tip off the convict and let him escape.

cokewithvanilla

Jstas wrote: »

Now I think what the guy did to the dude's kid sucks beyond words. But that doesn't absolve him from responsibility for his words and actions. The police have to absolutely take him seriously and they have, on the charge of terroristic threats alone, grounds to arrest this guy. This distraught man, in a moment of weakness, has compromised his life over a waste of a meatbag and that's the worst thing about this story.

Only a foolish kid would think that the media coverage would tip off the convict and let him escape.

I agree, I said as much here:

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

Not only does it cripple his chances to achieve his objective, but it has the chance of landing him in jail.

Not smart... not smart at all.

well, I just started mentioning everything bad I could see coming from this, one of them was the convicts knowledge of it. Is that really that unreasonable? I mean, surely, he will have heard, right? I would imagine that he would also have a police escort. What makes me foolish for saying that?

ben62670

John what he did was against the law. I don't condone what he said. If he gets arrested(and he should) then it is his own fault no matter how sympathetic to the situation I am.
CWV how old are you?

mdaudioguy

Although I'm guessing his words were the result of pure emotion, they also had the added benefit of bringing additional media coverage and public attention to the situation. Trust me, I'm sure people are exploring every legal option possible to keep this scum behind bars. States have recently made some legal precedents for keeping violent sexual offenders locked up. These are the least likely to have been rehabilitated. If they can't keep him in a prison, there may be cause for institutionalizing him elsewhere.

gdb

When you guys get this all figured out......d'ya think you could work up a solution for the Middle East & N. Africa ? That'd be swell,and,thanks !:biggrin:

cokewithvanilla

gdb wrote: »

When you guys get this all figured out......d'ya think you could work up a solution for the Middle East & N. Africa ? That'd be swell,and,thanks !:biggrin:

no probs brah, explosives... lots of em

Tony M

Lasareath wrote: »

After he kills him he should BBQ the guy.

At the very least.:biggrin: