SHM-SACD list for May
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Including two that I'm VERY excited about.
T. Rex: Electric Warrior
Steely Dan: The Royal Scam
Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers
The Who: The Singles
Stevie Wonder: Innervisions
T. Rex: Electric Warrior
Steely Dan: The Royal Scam
Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers
The Who: The Singles
Stevie Wonder: Innervisions
Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Time to sell off some excess SACD titles for some of these
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I just saw the song list for The Who: The Singles. Make that 3 that I'm VERY excited about.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Gonna have to get the same three. That's gonna leave a mark on my budget.-Kevin
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I'm surprised at the lack of interest here over these titles.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I've been waiting for Sticky Fingers to come out on SACD since 2002. I so effing excited I can hardly contain myself.
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Mike, it's been rumored that the entire SD catalog was mastered for SACD a long time ago, so I expect to see more soon.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The Who and Steely Dan are at the top of my list
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Jesse, do you have any SHM SACDs? I bought two Donald Fagen SHM discs (Redbook) and was not impressed.TNRabbit
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Regarding these releases do they all generally have 2.0 and 5.1 on the SACD layer? I'd only be utilizing the 2 channel.Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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They are strictly 2 channel SACD, no CD layer, no 5.1.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Great thread Jesse, sorry I missed the first round.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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Since I have no intention of regularly having to get up and actually put discs in a player... :redface: I was curious if the same sonic benefits can be captured by (losslessly, of course) ripping one of these SHM discs.
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There are some real good 24/96 and 24/192 downloads out there. I am not spending $70 for an SACD when you can get the HiRez download for $20-$30 It's too bad SACD didn't take off.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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mdaudioguy wrote: »Since I have no intention of regularly having to get up and actually put discs in a player... :redface: I was curious if the same sonic benefits can be captured by (losslessly, of course) ripping one of these SHM discs. I much prefer playing back my digital collection via Squeezebox. Anybody tried this?
These are SHM-SACD discs, not SHM-CD's. Therefore, you cannot rip them.Political Correctness'.........defined
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There are some real good 24/96 and 24/192 downloads out there. I am not spending $70 for an SACD when you can get the HiRez download for $20-$30 It's too bad SACD didn't take off.
They are $50.00, not $70.00 and unless you've heard one I don't see how you can compare them to a download. Didn't take off? Sorry, SACD is alive and well.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I didn't know that was possible, Mike.Political Correctness'.........defined
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OK even at $50 they are **** us. It only cost a little more to make an SACD over the price of a CD. I understand they have to re-master them, but they are sinking themselves. I have a small SACD collection, and a modded Denon 2900 player. I also have a nice DAC that does 24/192 for the downloads. Have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a good DAC? BTW if SACD is doind so well why can't you find them locally, and why are they OOP so often?Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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OK even at $50 they are **** us.
They are not **** anyone. The product (disc, sleeves, artwork, container and even the outer plastic bag) is absolutely first class. IMO, someone paying $20-$30 for a download is the one getting screwed. You don't own it really, you can't sell it and you can't hold it.Have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a good DAC?
I don't know for sure. I've heard downloads thru good DAC's, but I'm not sure of their resolution. Besides, I wasn't the one making that comparision.BTW if SACD is doind so well why can't you find them locally, and why are they OOP so often?
Can you buy a download at a local store? Can you even find a CD at a local store anymore? Non-issue.
http://www.sa-cd.net/home lists places to buy SACD's online.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Ok Mike, so then it's PCM and not DSD. Got ya.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
That's the nice thing about the download. I back it up and I have it. On a SACD disk you have one copy. If something happens to it it is gone. It is on the Hard drives. Mike have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a 24/192 DAC? I wish SACD took off, but it really hasn't. If it was doing so good why would there be so many threads about when a new SACD comes out? Even the 24/96 downloads are 4 times the resolution of Cd's(nearly the same as SACD). Those are only $20.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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You still don't own it, can't sell it or hold it and look at it. In all the years I've been buying CD's and SACD's, I can't think of one bad thing happening. Although, I have read of folks losing their entire music collection when their hard drive crashed.
There are over 7000 SACD's on the market with more coming out every day. I really don't know why you keep saying it hasn't taken off. Is it mainstream? No, but neither are hi-rez downloads.
Why new threads? Because it's exciting stuff. On the other hand, I don't recall seeing any threads about a new hi-rez download on here. Speaking of which, the record industry recently stated that they are aware of the fact that downloads in general have not taken off like they had hoped and in fact, have peaked. I would also venture to say that true hi-rez 24/192 downloads are fewer in number than SACD's.
I'll also add that having a SACD/CD player that upsamples Redbook to 24/192 pretty much makes any advantage to a 24/192 download a wash.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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LOL...you're hopeless Mike, but I still love ya bro.Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
That is why you back up your music if you have it on a hard-drive. Super simple. Your a fool if you don't back it up. Also I can up-sample Cd's to 24/192. You are correct about the 24/192 downloads being less available than SACD's, but the 24/96 is the equivalent of SACD's. The 24/192 is what is used for the digital masters. As far as owning it... yes I own it if I download it, but I don't have it to sell like an SACD, but to be totally realistic how many SACD's or Cd's have I sold? None in the last 10 years. It was you F1nut that told me to use my ears and not what I have read. I am totally convinced that the 24/96 downloads sound just as good as the SACD's, and are much more convenient. Also my puter is setup for video out. I see all the album covers on the screen when selecting my music from the listening area. Most have the Jewel case cover, the insides, and back. To each his own. I just recommend people give it a try before they knock it.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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I don't know Ben. Now, I have not heard any 24/96 format songs, but comparing any of the songs from Peter Gabriel's "So" 24/96 DVD to the "So" SACD is absolutely in favor of the SACD. The SACD sounds so much better than the 24/96 video DVD of the same songs. Now, could it be the mastering, absolutely. Not sure if that' what makes the SACD better or not. But it is better.
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I'll also add that having a SACD/CD player that upsamples Redbook to 24/192 pretty much makes any advantage to a 24/192 download a wash.
Do tell...I didn't there was such an animal! TNRabbit
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I just ignored the remark of a CD up-sampling being compared to a 24/192 download. Might as well said an mp3 up-sampled to CD resolution is the same a CD... If that were true then you would just up-sample a CD and get SACD quality.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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I'm not a physical disc guy any more, don't even have a player hooked up. I'm 100% modded Squeezebox as my source.
I've recently picked up a Benchmark DAC1, and congratulated myself with a few downloads from HDTracks. Got a couple of the Stones titles, Tommy, and a Diana Krall. I am extremely happy with what I'm hearing. I've stuck with the 88khz versions for ~$10 less each.
There's no right answer here, folks. Everyone has their preferences. Jesse likes to be able to hold something in his hands, tangible. Keiko likes his vinyl. I like my Squeezebox running off my music server in another room. Personally, I just can't see myself getting back into discs, the thought of getting up and changing a disc seems like ancient history to me. But that's me, the next guy will have a totally different mindset.
The important point that I keep taking away is that the best improvement you can possibly make in the sound quality of your system is not speakers, amps, players, cables, or dacs. Quality of the recorded material makes a bigger difference than anything else. Play a s@#$$y recording on a $50,000 hifi system, and it still sounds like s@#t. Play a stellar mastering job through a $500 stereo, and it sounds pretty decent. However you decide to get your music is up to you personally.Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance. -
I'm not a physical disc guy any more, don't even have a player hooked up. I'm 100% modded Squeezebox as my source.
I've recently picked up a Benchmark DAC1, and congratulated myself with a few downloads from HDTracks. Got a couple of the Stones titles, Tommy, and a Diana Krall. I am extremely happy with what I'm hearing. I've stuck with the 88khz versions for ~$10 less each.
There's no right answer here, folks. Everyone has their preferences. Jesse likes to be able to hold something in his hands, tangible. Keiko likes his vinyl. I like my Squeezebox running off my music server in another room. Personally, I just can't see myself getting back into discs, the thought of getting up and changing a disc seems like ancient history to me. But that's me, the next guy will have a totally different mindset.
The important point that I keep taking away is that the best improvement you can possibly make in the sound quality of your system is not speakers, amps, players, cables, or dacs. Quality of the recorded material makes a bigger difference than anything else. Play a s@#$$y recording on a $50,000 hifi system, and it still sounds like s@#t. Play a stellar mastering job through a $500 stereo, and it sounds pretty decent. However you decide to get your music is up to you personally.
Well said. We are all different and have different tastes and requirements.
That being said, I'll stick with the $50K+ rig with stellar recordings.Michael
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...I'll stick with the $50K+ rig with stellar recordings...
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One thing I forgot to mention, with respect to the hi rez downloads like HDTracks. Backup is key! Jesse mentioned people losing their whole music collections because of a hard drive failure. While I do feel bad for people like these, they're quite cavalier and careless to think that something like this can't happen. I keep my music on a raid 5 nas with 4 drives, so any single drive failure is easily recovered. I have a spare drive on hand to swap out just in case of any failures. On top of that, my collection is also backed up onto another drive that is offline at all times other than when I do a backup.Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance. -
You are correct about the 24/192 downloads being less available than SACD's, but the 24/96 is the equivalent of SACD's.
I don't believe that is true. 24/192 and DSD are about equal.I just ignored the remark of a CD up-sampling being compared to a 24/192 download. Might as well said an mp3 up-sampled to CD resolution is the same a CD... If that were true then you would just up-sample a CD and get SACD quality.
That's pretty far off the mark. Well done Redbook sounds damn good, upsampled it's even better and approaches SACD. Upsampled MP3 would still be garbage.Do tell...I didn't there was such an animal!
There are many such animals. Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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No, my last comment was in response to Gary's question or are you just being silly?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
