Westboro Baptist Church: Meet ANONYMOUS
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Too many pussies are in this country. Our forefathers would have never stood by while something like this happens. To many hide behind their rights. You can't write laws for everything. Morals come into play. I have paid for sticking up for my beliefs and others should too.Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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So many posts, talking about all the tough treatment of the certifiable evil people at westboro would receive, when the posters theoretical meeting occurs.
Look up my posts about a true american hero, Todd Love on this site.
Just letting polkies know what had happened to this kid in afghanistan, and how heroic this americans response.
One post received 0 responses.
The other 2 posts received 12 appreciated, heart felt responses.
The same day of one of these posts, over 800 posts about a member having a bowel movement.
I know this was an organized effort to give back to a troublemaking member.
But, with three pages of mostly descriptions of what these tough guys would do in their never gonna happen meeting with the westboro bunch, I guess i would call it.................strange.humpty dumpty was pushed -
I support their right to say it, but also support the right for someone to punch them out too. Actions have consequences.
Somebody insults you wife, lets say at a bar, you gonna punch the dudes lights out, or sit there and pretend you didn't hear anything ? The dude hurling the insults is exerciseing his free speech rights.
bingo.
First yeah the can say what they want. Its protected speech. That doesn't mean however that someone who disagrees is not going to rise up and punch their lights out when they get too personal or close to someone.
The problem with WBC is that the thrive on stuff like this. They want the attention because then they are seen to themselves as they are doing the right thing and furthers their mentality that they are right because they are hated by man and thus make themselves better as they "rise above" it.
Its really a joke to construe things like they do. I personally think though that if someone shot them or harmed them it would just show more for their cause and fuel it even more. However I would find it ironic if someone would just punch their lights out as if you continue to run your mouth things will happen.
Just like the girl last night that got punched out by another girl at the bar I was at. She ran her mouth like an idiot, was totally in her right, but enough is enough and after one punch she learned to shut up and sit down and be decent.
I'm all for the Constitution, its a great thing. Doesn't mean though that if someone says something stupid they might not get punched for it. You said it, now deal with the consequences. -
I have stated that in this thread and other times on the forum I hope there is a special hell in store for those people. I refuse to say they are either Baptist or a church. I abhor what they do.
I also think the Supreme Court was absolutely right in what they decided. On the one hand I was thinking "shut these **** down!". But in retrospect it did follow the constitution and what our forefathers intended. Insuring these people's rights protects our rights...good, bad or ugly. It affirms my right to say what I believe, no matter how unpopular. It gives us all that right.
Would I want to kill them? My base instinct says yes...but in reality...no. I would hope there would be a way to retaliate in kind. Even if you believe in an eye for eye...tooth for tooth...killing or physically assaulting as retaliation for insults and degradation isn't right.
Maybe the greatest retaliation we can ever truly give them is to totally and completely ignore them. Every news story, every counter protest, every patriot guard that shows up en-masse, every citizen that shouts back plays right into their wishes. It is the anger, the hate, the notoriety that they feed on. And we are feeding them well. If no one reacted, they would have no more influence than dried up dog s@#t on the ground. It looks disgusting, you wouldn't want to touch it...but it really doesn't hinder your path...so ignore or avoid...either way causes no harm.
In many cases the funerals are for men and women who died protecting the freedoms that allow them to do what they do. As much as we want to...maybe it is disrespect to the soldier being laid to rest to react to these people.
There is much anger and hate towards them...and yes...it is justified. It is easy to lash out...to retaliate...to wish them all forms of bodily harm. One day they will be dead...either by natural causes...or maybe at the hands of an angry person. I for one will feel nothing towards these people and only relief for those who have to endure their actions...no more...no less. If killed or assaulted, the person who commits the act will suffer even more, for a very long time, as will their family and loved ones. Even if one feels immediate satisfaction...there ultimately may be an arrest and jail and trials and suits and upending of ones life (including the family)...on top of the loss of a loved one if that is the case. Is it REALLY worth that?
The ability to walk away...to ignore...to focus on what is really important...not what our base instincts tell us to do...is the measure of a persons character IMO. It is the HARDER path to take...it is the civilized path to take. And the right one in my mind.
I despise the actions of these people and hope they will be dealt with for eternity after being judged by a higher power than me. I hope were I to encounter these people...I could block their very being from my mind and ignore them and everything about them completely. Yelling, retaliating, fighting, etc would do nothing to honor the deceased and only bring me to their level.
I am not a wuss...not a coward...not an apologist...not an acceptor of their actions. I simply don't believe violence is the right reaction. I don't want to even acknowledge that they exist, because they are only words...and reacting in ANY way gives value to those words...and in my mind there is none.
I know this goes against the grain of many here. Sorry...it is how I feel."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
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Very level headed and well said, shack.
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Are they using any audio equipment during their protests? If so, tubes or SS?
Oh, I'm sorry, that question belongs on an AUDIO forum....my bad.
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson. -
Are they using any audio equipment during their protests? If so, tubes or SS?
Oh, I'm sorry, that question belongs on an AUDIO forum....my bad.
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xj4094dg wrote:Oh, I'm sorry, that question belongs on an AUDIO forum....my bad.
If you are only here for audio...why are you reading this thread? :rolleyes: The title is pretty clear as to the subject."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
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If you are only here for audio...why are you reading this thread? :rolleyes: The title is pretty clear as to the subject.
It was a joke your holiness. Lighten up.
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What to do with the WBC? Hmmm.......
Oh, I've got an idea:eek::biggrin::mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80j4_hwU6EI refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
Mmmmmmmm.....pink mist
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i say kill 'em all and let their god sort them out
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Those of you who are talking about murder and shooting them are as bad or worse than they are. Surprised someone hasn't contracted the FBI.
The FBI guys would secretly applaud the act, don't kid yourself. Hell, the "perp" would be a National Freak'in Hero !
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Lots of internet tough talk which is nothing new because, well, this is the internet. I could be wrong, but I bet in many cases provoking a one-on-one response is exactly what they want, and I bet they are prepared for it. I've been in this situation and it makes you feel pretty stupid afterwards. Here's a scenario: at the bar, some jerk who is clearly not going to be a problem to wipe the floor with shoves you and provokes you. You have words and he backs off. You go to the bathroom and just as you're standing there half way through a piss, he walks in with two more guys wearing knuckles. The moral of the story is, well, pretty obvious.
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Hell NO! They'll come back as Democrats. :eek:silvertuner wrote: »i say kill 'em all and let their god sort them out~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Then you are very wrongheaded in my opinion. A physical attack is much worse than words or signs.
People that believe this contribute more to the creation of violent situations than they will ever know.
My father kept his life lessons simple. All people have a breaking point, even the sanctimonious ones. walk into an angry bear cage enough, your gonna get mauled. Ergo, avoid the cage for your own safety. I don't always count on the law to protect me, I have to act in my own interests
I submit to a school of thought that you must have control over your own destiny, so if someone attacked the Phelps family I wouldn't feel bad about it. they take imposing themselves for the purposes of harm and anguish on others to a near unprecedented level. Legally the attackers would be wrong and suffer the wrath of the law, but from a moral standpoint in my mind, I place far more blame for the violent situation overall on the Phelps.
Would I kill them if they protested a funeral of my loved one? Nah, I don't care unless they attack me or something.....although given I would be dealing with he loss of a loved one who knows? Thats the unknown that is the human condition. Those that underestimate it do it at thee own peril (overall, not just dealing with me obviously :biggrin:)
The fact that a serious attack hasn't happened yet tells me they are more savvy to the situation than any of us give them credit for. I got a feeling they know where to do it and where not to. I couldn't tell you how they decide it though.Living Room 2 Channel -
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Lots of internet tough talk which is nothing new because, well, this is the internet. I could be wrong, but I bet in many cases provoking a one-on-one response is exactly what they want, and I bet they are prepared for it. I've been in this situation and it makes you feel pretty stupid afterwards. Here's a scenario: at the bar, some jerk who is clearly not going to be a problem to wipe the floor with shoves you and provokes you. You have words and he backs off. You go to the bathroom and just as you're standing there half way through a piss, he walks in with two more guys wearing knuckles. The moral of the story is, well, pretty obvious.
Reminds me of a guy I know who was cut off by a young woman alone in a car. He starts honking, ****, screaming and generally scaring the living s... out of her. He figured she was no match for him. He would also soon find out that the car behind him contained her boyfriend and another young man.
At the next stop, the guy was being somewhat trapped between them, they got out, beat the living s... out of him and then drove off in his car."The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson. -
L Here's a scenario: at the bar, some jerk who is clearly not going to be a problem to wipe the floor with shoves you and provokes you. You have words and he backs off. You go to the bathroom and just as you're standing there half way through a piss, he walks in with two more guys wearing knuckles. The moral of the story is, well, pretty obvious.
And thats why you always leave a bar after any kind of violent confrontation. another one of my Daddy's lessonsLiving Room 2 Channel -
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With the Westboro Gang, the "we know where you live" part of the problem is going to be significant. Any you don't want to be bringing the fight home with you. With the exception of the illegalityAnd thats why you always leave a bar after any kind of violent confrontation. another one of my Daddy's lessons, I think ANONYMOUS is a great way to put a hurting on the Westboro Gang. -
LOL. Oops! Sounds like that one may have been deserved. Everyone knows that when a woman cuts you off she probably didn't do it on purposeReminds me of a guy I know who was cut off by a young woman alone in a car. He starts honking, ****, screaming and generally scaring the living s... out of her. He figured she was no match for him. He would also soon find out that the car behind him contained her boyfriend and another young man.
At the next stop, the guy was being somewhat trapped between them, they got out, beat the living s... out of him and then drove off in his car. -
Hell NO! They'll come back as Democrats. :eek:
That would be tragic. The Republicans need all the votes they can get to beat Obama."The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson. -
The problem with WBC is that the thrive on stuff like this. They want the attention...
I think this sums it up nicely. Unfortunately the media gives these people too big a forum to attract other lunatics. -
With the Westboro Gang, the "we know where you live" part of the problem is going to be significant. Any you don't want to be bringing the fight home with you. With the exception of the illegality, I think ANONYMOUS is a great way to put a hurting on the Westboro Gang.
Like get the Unibomber to mail them a care package? :biggrin:- Computer Rig -
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... probably a bit excessiveLike get the Unibomber to mail them a care package? :biggrin: -
Hell NO! They'll come back as Democrats. :eek:
:eek: true! ****! we're f***ed!
i actually have that shirt (kill em all, let god sort them out) somewhere in my collection of insulting t-shirts, along with my "gobble this" wild turkey bourbon shirt and a few others.
this thread is amusing, if someone showed up to my grandpa's funeral (he was in korea) and was protesting him there is a good chance i would be going to prison when i was done. show respect to someone who fought to keep your right to your f***ed up freedom of speech that you obviously are too stupid to properly interpret and respect and not over exaggerate. i dont care if these others disagree with my view of this, nor will i argue with them over it, this is my opinion, and i feel its right. right to free speech or not, that does not mean you have ANY right to disturb their family and friends in their time of celebration/mourning by saying disturbing, offensive, abusive, and otherwise derogatory remarks about that person who has died. whether they are interupting or not, their presence is known, and that is disruption enough to make people notice and thus interfere with that family's/friend's moment to honor their lost one. i dont show up at walmart and protest and say "die corporate america, god hates you, you ruined this country and put the little guy out of business, god hates you because you are all homo's who should die"... i would be instantly removed BY POLICE and possibly taken to jail for an over-nighter. the sheer ignorance of WBC and its followers is enough to make anyone angry who has any common sense and realizes that these people are ABUSING their rights, that arent god given, but granted and enforced to them by the people they are protesting against.
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Damn. And I thought I was holding back by suggesting only one package...
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The screwed up part is one day someone in a moment of grief turned into anger is going to slip out the funeral procession plow over the ****....While most will jump for joy and say "what did you expect", or "its about damn time". While the driver goes to jail, and the church gets ammunition of violence for their cause.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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Or......the jerks might find themselves re-examining their "cause" and whether it's really worth risking any further.:biggrin:
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You know, I would never suggest such a thing, but if it happened one could simply shrug one's shoulders and say "They were asking for it".Damn. And I thought I was holding back by suggesting only one package...
Note that I just came across this little factoid:They are able to finance their trips to protest through money gained in lawsuits against those that retaliate in some fashion or another to their protesting.
So you see, decking one of them is playing right into their hands. After all, Fred Phelps was/is a notorious child abuser, so the violence thing presumably doesn't phase them. -
How to retaliate in an effective and civilized manner:
http://paintyourbrain.squarespace.com/news-feed/2010/10/30/how-everyone-can-retaliate-against-the-westboro-baptist-chur.html
