Westboro Baptist Church: Meet ANONYMOUS

bobman1235

JNagarya wrote: »

"The Patriot Guard" is no different than any other gang of thugs that arrogantly takes it upon itself to take the law into its own hands -- contrary to the Constitution they've never read but claim to be about protecting. Bullying is bullying is bullying.

Anyone who gets involved with a fringe group, regardless kind, because it's easier to be lazy than to get an education, is a dupe to the uninformed.

I'm only quoting this jackwagon to encourage people to ignore him. Obviously these are the ramblings of a loony trying to get people angry.

treitz3

I wonder if someone on this thread actually graduated from wearing diapers.

cstmar01

JNagarya wrote: »

They are more likely railing against that they already are. I offer in evidence numerous instances of anti-homosexual/pornography/adultery "family values" Republicans who, while hiding behind "Christianity," were molesting children of their own sex (Foley), and or bisexualing it with their neighbor's wife (numerous), or their underage intern/s (Gingrich).

I just learned a new word.....

asexualing it

I guess it works...

NotaSuv

Even in the cold of Mpls bikes were out today escorting a fallen solider and will be again tomorrow.God Bless you Uncle Rich...... on the right in picture

an uncle VERY involved in all veterans events...has made the ride to DC since year 1 has attended 100s of funerals...basically has dedicated his life after retirement to fighting for veterans rights and rides at every event...every state has an event calendar like the one below on the guard website...can always show support even if your not on a bike



MNPG Mission & Event Calendar: March, 2011

Active Duty SPC Peter Matthew Bergstrom Fort
Wednesday, March 02, 2011

Veteran Laurence V. Leqve - ASAF - Rochester
Thursday, March 03, 2011

Short Notice Kia Cpl. Andrew C. Wilfahrt
From: Friday, March 04, 2011 to Saturday, March 05, 2011

William Edward Laxson Jr. Honor mission, Mn S
Friday, March 04, 2011

Edward Hemze, WWII Vet, Olivia, Mn
Saturday, March 05, 2011

Hibbing Meet & Greet
Saturday, March 05, 2011

Holmbo McGregor Korean War Vet
Saturday, March 05, 2011

Metro Meet & Greet
Saturday, March 05, 2011

Minneapolis Veteran's Home Bingo
Saturday, March 05, 2011

WWII Vet Lloyd Parkin Sr. - Rochester
Saturday, March 05, 2011

Army Reserve deployment, Ft Snelling Base
Saturday, March 19, 2011

Silver Bay V.A. Home Visit
Saturday, March 19, 2011

NotaSuv

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blueboxer

When will people learn that the need to force your message upon others or do so in such a horrendous manner probably just means that your message is false, incorrect, or just plain stupid.

mrbiron

I wonder if someone on this thread actually graduated from wearing diapers

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WTH Bro...you don't understand. The cotton gives me a rash!! I only posted the video, leave me outa this! :biggrin:

I'm only quoting this jackwagon to encourage people to ignore him. Obviously these are the ramblings of a loony trying to get people angry.

I can't ignore him, his stupidity is overloading my PC....need more RAM!!

gdb

Hot Damn !! JNagarya, you can be on my list! Congrats !! :biggrin:

tonyb

Am I mistaken, or did we not pass some sort of hate speech legislation ? If so, I can't think of a better example than these asshats.

ohskigod

RuSsMaN wrote: »

Yes m1aman, murder.

clarification for the win...lol

jcandy

I have to say, watching that video made my day. Let's all hope ANONYMOUS continues to harass them and eventually causes Fred Phelps to have a heart attack.

jcandy

http://shop.cafepress.com/fred-phelps

m1aman

Those of you who are talking about murder and shooting them are as bad or worse than they are. Surprised someone hasn't contracted the FBI.

m1aman

Those who have followed the news have seen that WBC just won a supreme court case against them this week. I don't think they will be going away soon. Best way to deal with them is to counter protest or push towards some new legislation. Not talk about killing them.

bobman1235

m1aman wrote: »

Those of you who are talking about murder and shooting them are as bad or worse than they are. Surprised someone hasn't contracted the FBI.

They're hateful monsters who deserve to die.

The people they are bothering are just normal, innocent citizens.

It's not the same thing.

m1aman

They are exercising their first amendment rights within the scope of the law. Murder is not within the law. You are therefore right, it isn't the same thing.

As a vet I don't like these WBC guys either. But they are within their rights and I respect that aspect of it. They do not deserve to be murdered for using the rights I and all vets fought for.

Terrorist murder people for acting and thinking differently then they do. I hope we are better than that here.

bobman1235

m1aman wrote: »

They are exercising their first amendment rights within the scope of the law. Murder is not within the law. You are therefore right, it isn't the same thing.

As a vet I don't like these WBC guys either. But they are within their rights and I respect that aspect of it. They do not deserve to be murdered for using the rights I and all vets fought for.

Terrorist murder people for acting and thinking differently then they do. I hope we are better than that here.

Not a single person hasn't said they are not "within their rights." YOu can be within your RIGHTS and still be wrong. Exercising your rights to free speech means dealing with the consequences. If you burn a flag in protest, get ready to deal with a veteran punching you in the mouth for it. You're just spouting the typical super-liberal BS that every opinion is VALID, and that's not the case. Some opinions are wrong. Some actions are wrong, regardless of what the law says. These people are WRONG. The things they are doing to the survivors of these people is WRONG. If you can't admit that, then you're an absolute moron.

My mother is a ****. If she died and one of these people showed up at her funeral, I would attack them and attempt to kill them with my bare hands (I'd most likely fail, because I'm a ****, but that's besides the point). I would bite them in the throat like an animal, and regret none of the consequences. They are torturing THOUSANDS of lives with their antics, and they deserve to die. You can take your moral high ground BS and pretend that all lives are sacred. You're wrong.

And terrorists murder people to create terror. Hence the name.

treitz3

Hey, I'm sorry but if they had been at my Grandfather's funeral protesting [They couldn't have as he's buried at West Point] and I could hear them and I look over and I see a sign that says "Thank God for dead Soldiers".....I don't think I would be thinking rationally at that point.

Kinda like when you walk in and see your wife being banged by the guy down the street in your own bed. Willing or not, someone's gonna die.

Now, neither of these situations have happened to me but I do know myself. I do have a bit of a temper that has considerably tamed down over the years but again....I do know me and if one of these situations presented itself, someone's gonna die.

That said, it's the internet and though I type as I would talk, I don't really know for sure what would happen in one of these situations. It's just me venting. I'm quite sure that the other posters on this thread are venting as well. It seems that you are borderline calling those that are just speaking their minds here terrorists.

If you can respect WBC's twisted way of thinking, then respect ours and don't even begin to equate us with terrorists.

tonyb

I support their right to say it, but also support the right for someone to punch them out too. Actions have consequences.
Somebody insults you wife, lets say at a bar, you gonna punch the dudes lights out, or sit there and pretend you didn't hear anything ? The dude hurling the insults is exerciseing his free speech rights.

Demiurge

nguyendot wrote: »

I'm all for it. 4chan for life.

Are you for all the pedophilia posted on that site too, or just the 'hacker' stuff? These morons are just as bad as the jackasses of WBC.

treitz3

I really don't care who or what entity takes the WBC down. Just that they do. If the jackasses start to take each other down? I really see no issue here.

m1aman

bobman1235 wrote: »

Not a single person hasn't said they are not "within their rights." YOu can be within your RIGHTS and still be wrong. Exercising your rights to free speech means dealing with the consequences. If you burn a flag in protest, get ready to deal with a veteran punching you in the mouth for it. You're just spouting the typical super-liberal BS that every opinion is VALID, and that's not the case. Some opinions are wrong. Some actions are wrong, regardless of what the law says. These people are WRONG. The things they are doing to the survivors of these people is WRONG. If you can't admit that, then you're an absolute moron.

My mother is a ****. If she died and one of these people showed up at her funeral, I would attack them and attempt to kill them with my bare hands (I'd most likely fail, because I'm a ****, but that's besides the point). I would bite them in the throat like an animal, and regret none of the consequences. They are torturing THOUSANDS of lives with their antics, and they deserve to die. You can take your moral high ground BS and pretend that all lives are sacred. You're wrong.

And terrorists murder people to create terror. Hence the name.

Well, your name calling and labeling isn't required or even accurate. I am a conservative who supports the constitution regardless of whether I like the results or not. As an USAF vet of 9 years I would never punch someone in the face for burning the flag or protesting a funeral. That is just stupid and puts you on their level. I don't like their signs or their language but I don't need to get primitive about it.

As long as they obey the law, I can ignore them. Murdering them or physically attacking them is both wrong and illegal and I won't support it and as an American you shouldn't either.

Of course these people are wrong, I never said they were right and you don't need to call me childish names about it.

Let me make this simple and clear for you so any further comments you make won't be so misleading.

1 - I do not personally agree with WBC's actions or behavior.

2 - WBC's behavior, so far, has been within the law. SCOTUS says so.

3 - I don't believe people should be murdered for protesting within the law.

4 - Anyone who gets so upset at these people that they want them murdered might need help.

m1aman

treitz3 wrote: »

If you can respect WBC's twisted way of thinking, then respect ours and don't even begin to equate us with terrorists.

I don't respect their way of thinking. I respect their right to protest.

If you want to murder someone because they are protesting......

bobman1235

m1aman wrote: »

Well, your name calling and labeling isn't required or even accurate...... Of course these people are wrong, I never said they were right and you don't need to call me childish names about it.

I didn't call you names. I said you were spouting liberal BS, not that you were a liberal. And I said that if you can't admit that they're wrong, you're a moron. Which is a name, but an apt one given the constraint, and since you do admit that they're wrong, then you're not a moron either. So look, no name calling. Learn to read.

As long as they obey the law, I can ignore them. Murdering them or physically attacking them is both wrong and illegal and I won't support it and as an American you shouldn't either.

Stop talking about the law. I didn't say what they were doing was illegal. NO ONE DID. I'm not a police officer, why would I care if they were breaking the law? I care that they're horrible people who have no place on this Earth. They aren't just protesting, they are terrorizing innocent people at their most vulnerable time, and they're doing it from a position of hate. I support protesters. Our nation was founded on protest. THIS IS NOT PROTESTING. You protest to governments or people in power or people who are DOING BAD THINGS. You don't protest the innocent, grieving family of someone you think did a bad thing. That's just hate and ignorance, under the guise of protest.

I see a physical attack on these people as no worse than the psychological attack they're taking on innocent people. Far more justified in fact, since the innocent did nothing to deserve it, and these "people" have deserved it.


This is pointless, you're just some sort of robot who's going to keep repeating "they're not breaking the law." The law is not the only thing that dictates right and wrong.

treitz3

Tell you what, let me know when your parents pass so that me [hypothetically] and my hooligans can be there for you at the funeral home and burial site to peacefully protest. We'll hold up signs that say "Thank God for the dead parents of good soldiers" and chant rude sayings all in the name of BS.

How would you feel?

As you mourn the loss of your loved ones that gave you life itself, these guys come up and celebrate his/her death? Yeah, tell me that murder wouldn't be on your mind. :rolleyes:

tonyb

m1aman wrote: »

I don't respect their way of thinking. I respect their right to protest.

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I think everyone can agree to that. But what they do is disrespectfull, and like any punk that's disrespectfull, deserves a fist in his face.
There's a certain level of civility one must obide by in society. Laws can't cover every gray area that exists.
Let me lay it out in an example from personal experience.

One of my daughters, at age 15, had one of those teenage moments and decided to tell me to "go f@$k myself "....free speech and all that, childrens rights,blah..blah. I slapped her upside her head faster than you could imagine. She calls the cops on me. Of coarse the laws on child abuse are strict these days and by some, this would be considered abuse,breaking the law. After explaining the situation to the police, they asked me what she said to make me do such a thing. I told them. They smiled at each other, told me to have a good night, turned and walked away.
While she exercised her right of free speech, her actions had consequences that the law doesn't specifically cover, somewhat of a gray area.
While the scum that protest our soldiers are within their right to do so, those of that soldiers family also have a right to defend the respect deserved of their dead.

steveinaz

You could walk up to my wife and cuss her up one side and down the other---and be within your rights; however, I would still break your jaw, nonetheless. Life doesn't always require an instruction manual.

Those who enjoy living on the jagged edge of their freedoms, at the expense of others, better be ready to face some consequences.

steveinaz

In this country, there is an expectation of some decency towards others. When you break that unwritten rule, you put yourself in a situation where others aren't real concerned about your "freedoms" because you've obviously perverted them to a degree that the majority feels, is not being exercised in the true spirit of the right. These people feel they are protected by law; they bank on it. Problem is, people will react, and by the time the law can do anything about it---it'll be to late for the losers.

They can believe whatever they want, but it doesn't change a thing. Reality or fiction, take your pick. If you choose to live outside of the "norm" prepare yourself for a rough life--or total isolation, that's the reality of things.

m1aman

"I see a physical attack on these people as no worse than the psychological attack they're taking on innocent people. Far more justified in fact, since the innocent did nothing to deserve it, and these "people" have deserved it."

Then you are very wrongheaded in my opinion. A physical attack is much worse than words or signs. Are you willing to attack their kids also? The footage I saw clearly showed children protesting with adults. Where do you draw the moral line? Should the kids be murdered also?

The only point I ever wanted to make is that talking about murdering these people or shooting them with a .308 is worse than what they do. Doesn't mean I support them. If you guys want to see people killed over protesting funerals from 1000 feet away have at it. Enjoy your time in prison if you chose to do it. WBC will no doubt continue protesting with the SCOTUS full backing. It is called the constitution guys. It is far more important than your feelings.

treitz3

You do have a way of twisting things around, much like a troll.