rabbits hole rig?

tavogee
tavogee Posts: 91
edited March 2011 in Electronics
What is a rabbit hole rig, I see it all over?
LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2011
    I'll let the veterans take this but if you want to do some research yourself...look up some of Ted's threads (reeltrouble1)!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,205
    edited February 2011
    Is it anything like a foxhole radio?

    http://bizarrelabs.com/foxhole.htm
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2011
    Don't have one yet, want one though, just always scary to take that first jump. Sometimes you just need a push.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    What is a rabbit hole rig, I see it all over?

    Once you jump into the rabbits hole, there's no telling how deeply you'll fall.
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    What is a rabbit hole rig?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,076
    edited February 2011
    It's not a rabbit hole rig.....it's more so a rig in a rabbit hole. I had the same confusion with Ted when he had his woodshed rig. I guess you have to know Ted a bit to understand his vocabulary. Just terminology folks. Think about what a rabbit hole is and all that goes with it, you'll figure it out.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    My definition is - It is taking the a long trip less traveled by most. Once you get started it don't stop until you find audio bliss, hopefully before running out of money.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Now that makes sense, I am still laughing about the running out of money part. SO IS THE RIG, ALL THE EQUPMENT?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Also, who is ted?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    Also, who is ted?

    Ted just is.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,076
    edited February 2011
    madmax wrote: »
    Ted just is.

    ...and always will be.

    Ted is Reeltrouble....you guys are slow today.:smile:
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Will someone please answer my questio?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Who is ted?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    Who is ted?
    tonyb wrote: »
    Ted is Reeltrouble....you guys are slow today.:smile:

    Ted is Reeltrouble1 or RT1. He is so far down the rabbit hole that the rabbit is bleeding.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Im sorry but I do not understand.
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Is Ted an expert at audio?
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    I am starting to smell something.

    tavogee, welcome to CP but get back on topic. Several options provided to you. THoughts?
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • tavogee
    tavogee Posts: 91
    edited February 2011
    Im sorry but you lost me, I am just trying to get some advice/recommendations on setting up a system for playing my records, cds, tapes etc. I don't know which amp, processor, receivers to buy. I will not be using it for movies (music only). This setup has to sound very good. I know nothing about tubes, etc. I don't even know if a sub is needed for music. It must have good pier.
    LIVING ROOM: Onkyo TX-NR808 Receiver | Emotiva XPA-5 Amplifier | Polk Dsw Pro 660wi Subwoofer | Polk RTi A9 Fronts | Polk CSi A6 Center | Polk FXi A6 Surrounds [5.1 Channel Setup]
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    Im sorry but you lost me, I am just trying to get some advice/recommendations on setting up a system for playing my records, cds, tapes etc. I don't know which amp, processor, receivers to buy. I will not be using it for movies (music only). This setup has to sound very good. I know nothing about tubes, etc. I don't even know if a sub is needed for music. It must have good pier.

    Lets start with what you now, room dimensions hxwxl ?
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited February 2011
    sumthin stinks.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2011
    tavogee...? How well do you know ALICE? The Mad Hatter?...

    I thought we pretty much answered your questions above!

    Forget about the Rabbit Hole and start a new thread if you want advice about a new system in EARNEST?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    What is a rabbit hole rig, I see it all over?
    An evil, dark sonic Hell where tubes are said to rule.:wink:
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited February 2011
    Whoa... this thread got weird. And no, no one answered his question directly.
    Could you all be any more cryptic?

    rig: kit, gear, system, etc. Its just a synonym for your setup.

    rabbit hole: This is an Alice in Wonderland reference
    exerpt from Alice in Wonderland:

    "[After spottotting the white rabbit, Alice] ran across the field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

    In another moment down went Alice after it, never once considering how in the world she was to get out again.

    The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well.

    Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to see anything... Down, down, down. Would the fall never come to an end!"

    It's an metaphore used to describe the nature of embarking on a new adventure. Here in the forum it seems often to be used with implied allusions of getting caught up in the journey as well as sometimes used synonymously with the "slippery slope" idiom. That is to say that even if treading lightly at first, you can quickly find yourself quickly sliding into the depths of the adventure (in this case with stereo gear). This is typically associated with the amount of money spent and so some here will associate that monetary element as well.

    Simply put: the rabbit hole is the "audio journey," and sometimes you end up farther into it than you initially anticipate. Most of the time your wallet finds the bottom before you do ;)
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    My definition is - It is taking the a long trip less traveled by most. Once you get started it don't stop until you find audio bliss, hopefully before running out of money.
    newrival wrote: »
    Whoa... this thread got weird. And no, no one answered his question directly.
    Could you all be any more cryptic?

    rig: kit, gear, system, etc. Its just a synonym for your setup.

    rabbit hole: This is an Alice in Wonderland reference
    exerpt from Alice in Wonderland:

    "[After spottotting the white rabbit, Alice] ran across the field after it, and fortunately was just in time to see it pop down a large rabbit-hole under the hedge.

    In another moment down went Alice after it, never once considering how in the world she was to get out again.

    The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well.

    Either the well was very deep, or she fell very slowly, for she had plenty of time as she went down to look about her and to wonder what was going to happen next. First, she tried to look down and make out what she was coming to, but it was too dark to see anything... Down, down, down. Would the fall never come to an end!"

    It's an metaphore used to describe the nature of embarking on a new adventure. Here in the forum it seems often to be used with implied allusions of getting caught up in the journey as well as sometimes used synonymously with the "slippery slope" idiom. That is to say that even if treading lightly at first, you can quickly find yourself quickly sliding into the depths of the adventure (in this case with stereo gear). This is typically associated with the amount of money spent and so some here will associate that monetary element as well.

    Simply put: the rabbit hole is the "audio journey," and sometimes you end up farther into it than you initially anticipate. Most of the time your wallet finds the bottom before you do ;)

    I thought I replied pretty directly.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited February 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    I thought I replied pretty directly.

    indeed you did. I mustve overlooked it while scrolling through
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2011
    Actually, a rabbit hole is a place you don't know where it leads and you don't know where you gonna come out at the other end.

    Enjoy this hobby! And watch out for your wallet! Tubers are a common encounters in the rabbit holes, so it says.

    And where is Ted anyway? I think he hasn't posted here for a while?
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,897
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    Will someone please answer my questio?

    Now that that is solved, I have a question:

    What is a questio ?
    Sal Palooza
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited February 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Actually, a rabbit hole is a place you don't know where it leads and you don't know where you gonna come out at the other end.

    Enjoy this hobby! And watch out for your wallet! Tubers are a common encounters in the rabbit holes, so it says.

    And where is Ted anyway? I think he hasn't posted here for a while?

    Actually, a rabbit hole is a hole dug by a rabbit. :wink:
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,612
    edited February 2011
    tavogee wrote: »
    It must have good pier.

    What??? :confused:
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    To the OP,, to get to the rabbit hole,,you must first enter the woodshed.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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