Can Jolida.net be trusted

rubin
rubin Posts: 565
edited July 2011 in Electronics
They claim they are the real Jolida while Jolida.com (usa) is counterfeit. They are offering gear at far lower prices than American dealers.

But since purchases are Internet only (from China) that kind of scares me. The prices are excellent,almost seems too good.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2011
    Pretty sure you can trust them. I toured that Plant outside of Shanghai last year when I was there. The guys in the shots on their homepage are the same people I met. The facilities are real, the plant's been there for years so have the employees.

    I'm going to look into those prices myself. When I have some confirmation (on that pricing), I'll post it?

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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    edited February 2011
    I'm listening to my JD-100A from Jolida.net as we speak. Search for Jolida.net on this forum and you'll find a few happy customers.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2011
    Their web site shows "counterfeit " products having a sticker glued on the face plate as opposed to silk screening.

    I have the Jolida Envoy preamp which has the Jolida logo printed on the face plate, no sticker. What confuses me is that this preamp came fron Maryland, which Jolida.net says is fake.:confused:
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2011
    cnh wrote: »
    Pretty sure you can trust them. I toured that Plant outside of Shanghai last year when I was there. The guys in the shots on their homepage are the same people I met. The facilities are real, the plant's been there for years so have the employees.

    I'm going to look into those prices myself. When I have some confirmation (on that pricing), I'll post it?

    cnh

    That would be good.
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited February 2011
    I don't know that is a tough one. I have no experiance with them.

    The jolida.net seems to have a strong argument.

    Jolida.com has jolidacorp@msn.com email address. I dont knwo what kind of company has a free emial account. MSN, Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, AOL, exc.

    If you do a google map seach for:

    10820 Guilford Road, Suite 209
    Annapolis Junction, MD 20701

    you will find a Audio Video solutions store right beside them. That seems kind of fishy. Maybe the Audio Video Solutions Store is the same place as Jolida.com.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited February 2011
    If the history is reviewed I beleive that the Jolida.com people (small outfit in MD) used to be the sole US distributor for the equipment manafactured by the factory in China now listed as Jolida.net. There was a seperation in thier paths and now they exist as two competing retail entities. It is my understanding that the US distributor is now having the equipment they are selling manfactured at a different factory (that is the sticker vs slikscreen issue), but both want to do business with the well know "Jolida" moniker. I think this is actually in court over the naming rights in the US. It would not be unusual if your Jolida was a few years old that it could have the Silk screen logo on it and have been handled through the Maryland group without being considered counterfeit.
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2011
    rubin wrote: »
    That would be good.

    In general their prices are about 50% of US dealers, seems like a no brainer.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,467
    edited February 2011
    The search function will not offer me the thread about the lawsuit, but Dr. R is correct.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,467
    edited February 2011
    Never mind, found it - http://boardreader.com/thread/Jolida_in_China_ku6X27de.html
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    I've been in the market for a tube integrated,the 303 and 505 are very tempting at these prices...plus,I like the new look.

    http://jolida.net/buyonline.htm
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Yep--real deal
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    Come on george,step up and be the beta tester and buy something from this site...
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    Stew wrote: »
    I'm listening to my JD-100A from Jolida.net as we speak. Search for Jolida.net on this forum and you'll find a few happy customers.

    Stew,If you don't mind...What shipping company delivered your JD100? And how much was the duty paid to the carrier?

    Thanks,Mike
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    Come on george,step up and be the beta tester and buy something from this site...

    I am getting one from them,,I'll post pic's etc,,I exchanged a few e-mails awhile back with one of their staff,,IIRC,, he was a frenchman,,not that it matters,, and explained the situation to me,, I'll let ya'll know my experience,, a forum member o n another site just recently picked one up and was surprised and the packaging and speediness of the delivery.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    george daniel wrote: »
    I am getting one from them,,I'll post pic's etc,,I exchanged a few e-mails awhile back with one of their staff,,IIRC,, he was a frenchman,,not that it matters,, and explained the situation to me,, I'll let ya'll know my experience,, a forum member o n another site just recently picked one up and was surprised and the packaging and speediness of the delivery.

    That would be great,thanks george.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited February 2011
    My order is going in tomorrow with Jolida.net
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2011
    I'm interested in the envoy mono amps (to accompany my pre). They have them for $3490.00/ pair.
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited February 2011
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2011
    Doctor R wrote: »
    If the history is reviewed I beleive that the Jolida.com people (small outfit in MD) used to be the sole US distributor for the equipment manafactured by the factory in China now listed as Jolida.net. There was a seperation in thier paths and now they exist as two competing retail entities. It is my understanding that the US distributor is now having the equipment they are selling manfactured at a different factory (that is the sticker vs slikscreen issue), but both want to do business with the well know "Jolida" moniker. I think this is actually in court over the naming rights in the US. It would not be unusual if your Jolida was a few years old that it could have the Silk screen logo on it and have been handled through the Maryland group without being considered counterfeit.

    This is pretty much the actual case, at least as I was told and understand it. The Jolida product in the U.S. (until very recently, came from this China plant so if your equipment is not brand new...it's probably 'stock' from Shenda Jolida in China (.net). The Maryland boys got their stock DIRECTLY from that plant (and may even have some stock left?). And now they are trying to establish a NEW plant with the blueprints they have of the product that's been manufactured at Shenda for ages? But all this is being fought in a court cases. So I don't want to get Polk involved with that.

    I'm still waiting for Marc to reply to my e-mail about the sale prices--explain them. As for the site itself. There are no problems there.

    cnh
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,013
    edited February 2011
    you will find a Audio Video solutions store right beside them. That seems kind of fishy. Maybe the Audio Video Solutions Store is the same place as Jolida.com.

    It's called United Home Audio. It and Jolida are one and the same. Nothing fishy about it.


    About the two Jolida's, yeah the ones from China are cheaper as they don't have a showroom and warehouse lease to pay every month. They ship direct, but they also require you to send your unit to Canada for service. Shipping across the border is not cheap, so that is something to consider. The folks in Maryland service the gear at their location.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,467
    edited February 2011
    Not only that, they also have gear to demo.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    What is the price difference between the 2 companies on a JD100 CDP? I know the Jolida.net price is $539 shipped.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,013
    edited February 2011
    List on the JD100 is $900.00.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,564
    edited February 2011
    United Home Audio sells the JD100 for $950.00+ shipping(I assume).
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited February 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    What is the price difference between the 2 companies on a JD100 CDP? I know the Jolida.net price is $539 shipped.

    I've seen it sell for $900.00 over here.
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    edited February 2011
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    Stew,If you don't mind...What shipping company delivered your JD100? And how much was the duty paid to the carrier?

    Thanks,Mike

    Mike - Mine was shipped to Denver via DHL. A local courier brought it to Wyoming. I have no idea about the duty paid to the carrier. The price included shipping costs.
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited February 2011
    DHL was used for my purchase. I asked DHL about duty tax and was told that unless the price was over $2,000 that there would be no additional fee. There was none.

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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    Stew wrote: »
    Mike - Mine was shipped to Denver via DHL. A local courier brought it to Wyoming. I have no idea about the duty paid to the carrier. The price included shipping costs.
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    DHL was used for my purchase. I asked DHL about duty tax and was told that unless the price was over $2,000 that there would be no additional fee. There was none.

    Thanks guys,there was something in the Shipping statement that made me think there was a duty fee to pay upon delivery.

    If the quoted prices include all of the shipping cost,all the sweeter.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2011
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    Bought the 801S and it came VERY quickly in perfect condition. Not only would I not hesitate to buy from them again, but I'm anxious to do just that.

    Is the 801S and the rest of the Jolida Integrated line a common ground amp??? I will be driving a pair of 1Cs.

    Thanks,Mike
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited February 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's called United Home Audio. It and Jolida are one and the same. Nothing fishy about it.

    I guess not nessessarly fishy but it seems like they try to hide some thing when they have 2 seperate web sites, phone numbers, addresses, free msn email address all for the same place of business.
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