Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Hey,, I just got back from a concert--Robin Trower in Atlanta,,I'm still high from other peoples smoke:wink:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,778
    edited February 2011
    bopicasso wrote: »
    I just dont want to experiment with soldering on my speakers. Maybe if I practiced on something else first.

    There's really nothing to it. I don't know why people think it's such a big deal.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    I just have no experience with soldering. Its good to know that it is easy to do though. Maybe I will buy one and mess around with it.
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    If I can learn,,anyone can,, kinda fun actually
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2011
    I've posted this link a few times in this forum. Very good "how to" videos.

    http://tangentsoft.net/elec/movies/
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    Thanks Ricardo!
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2011
    Get an old board and solid wire and start playing around. As everyone says, you'll find out it is not really difficult once you try it.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited February 2011
    I'm with you bopicasso. I'm a bit leary of it too. I'm saving this link Ricardo.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,233
    edited February 2011
    I would say that a couple of folks here at CP could do it for you but all contact points within the Tyler's I've seen have had point to point wiring all of the way to the speakers. Even if we did the crossovers for you, the soldering to each woofer/tweeter would still need to be done.

    Like Ricardo had mentioned above, you could always get an old board, some wires and start fiddling around. The link he provided has just about all of the information that you would need. That, and there are a couple of threads around here that explains where to get a nice soldering station, the types of solder you could use, different techniques for solder extraction and hints to assist you along the way.

    The practice board can be any piece of electronic gear that isn't surface mounted. What I mean by surface mount is pictured below.

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    Here's an example of what the PTP crossover looks like in your Tyler's. Not exactly, but very close.

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Okay,, a few pics of my 7U's,, the crossover is located just above the lower driver,,on the right is a Hovland 6uf 100 volt cap,(a couple of resistors),, on the left,, is a couple of Bennic's,,22uf for one of them,,a 1uf solen and another Bennic that I could not quite make out.,anyway a few pics for anyone interested.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    Nice george!! I cant wait to get my 7u speakers!
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    Yep just like my super towers.

    EASYYYYY to upgrade.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    I swapped out the parts in my monitor with the Hovland cap and that cap sounds like crap. Anything is an upgrade honestly.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Would ya'll keep or replace the hovland,,IIRC the Hov/Revelator tweeter is supposed to be a good match,,I do think that when I replace the Bennic's with sonic or clarity caps that would have to be a good thing,,eh?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    The Hovland is bright, sterile and sharp.

    Not a great cap in the least.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    So why would ty use "crap" parts in his cross over when he is using very nice everything else?
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited February 2011
    bopicasso wrote: »
    So why would ty use "crap" parts in his cross over when he is using very nice everything else?


    This thread is informative, so I went to the Tyler site and found out the speakers being discussed are no longer made. They do have this on the web-site in regard to the new line of speakers. I have no idea if it applies to the speakers discussed in this thread.

    "The crossovers are custom designed by Danny Ritchie of GR Research. He room measures and tests every design for the smoothest frequency response. High quality parts are used throughout the crossover design. "

    http://www.tyleracoustics.com/Decade.html
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    His current line up uses Mundorf Supremes.

    The Hovland is not crap - it is actually an expensive cap usually used in electronics and guitars (now a defunct company) - they just sound like crap in speakers, IMO.

    Thats why upgrading crossovers, his and everyones is so beneficial.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    I actually have a pair of D3s in the room right now. They have Clarity Cap ESA on the tweeter network by request
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2011
    Which tweeter does yours and the D 3 have,,Revelator or Millenium?

    I plan on performing this upgrade in March,,I'll post step by step pics,,I was gonna leave the board in,,but after re-thinking,I'll remove it,,gotta be easier that way.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    The new series is using all Tyler Acoustics drivers designed by Ty and Dannie Ritchie.

    My towers uses the Milenium and the monitors I have use the lower line Excel tweeter.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    Just got the 7u speakers. They are heavy and beautiful! One had slight damage from shipping. A port came unglued and fell inside the speaker. I reglued it and reattached the plastic cover. Sucks having anything heavy and delicate shipped.
    I just hooked them up. First impressions coming later!!
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,233
    edited February 2011
    Well, he'll be busy for a while.......
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    The new series is using all Tyler Acoustics drivers designed by Ty and Dannie Ritchie.

    Ty is designing drivers? I would stick with Seas.......
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,233
    edited February 2011
    Eh, so would I but with the cost of Seas? The profit margin got squeezed so tight........the rest is..........well, you'll have to ask Ty. Seas drivers aren't cheap.....as if I'm telling you anything...

    While I haven't heard the new lineup yet, his sales have increased dramatically. Apparently, folks really like them.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited February 2011
    Umm no - Dannie Ritchie and Ty designed these drivers. Dannie Ritchie is no newbie.
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    Well I just got home from college. I will not have a chance to really sit and listen to the new speaks until tommorow morning.
    I hooked them up and made sure they work and that was about it.
    Based on looks compared to the dyns they are giants A good 7 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier. The wood cabinets are beautiful especially compared to the dyns which were not real wood and looked fake to begin with. I will give a review of the sound compared to the dyns tommorow sometime. Just from the 2 songs I listened to, I can tell there is a difference but will need some time to break it down comparing them to the dyns. To be continued....
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2011
    Looking forward to your review.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Looking forward to your review.

    Me too!
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2011
    First impressions:

    Tyler acousitcs are beautiful speakers. Everything about them from the copper and white drivers to the furniture grade wood grain. The dyns are not at the same level in quality parts but they have their own unique sleak look that makes them look impressive in their own way.

    First Impressions after listening for 1 hour swapping in and out after each song:

    Gear: Krell Kav-300i-> Bens ICs-> Musical Fidelity V-dac-> Audiquest type 4 toslink-> PS3 (treaming wav files from desktop in office); MIT Avt-3 w/ bananas
    Speakers are 6'6" apart and 15" from rear wall


    Taylo 7u speakers give the feeling of being in the studio watching the band record the album you are listening to, especially with acoustic like while listening to Ray Lamontagne and the Pariah Dogs. The experience is very true to the music. The dyns are very different from the tylos. One major difference is the soundstage and imaging are different because of the placement of the tweeters and drives. The tylers are positioned higher due to the larger cabinet. In my room, the tylos give off a larger soundstage. The big difference between the two in the sound department is due to the different tweeters. The dyns seem to have a magical sparkle that is missing in the tylos. The tys are more analytical and straight forward sounding while the dyns are more mysterious and 3D. The bass is more pronounced in the dyns. This suprises me because by just looking at the shear size of the tylers, you would think they would produce more bass hands down. Maybe this could be due to room placement. But my room gives doesnt give me much to work with because of it being a open floor plan.
    More to come...
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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