Newbie here, never had good speakers

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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited February 2011
    man, I had issues finding a solution trying to Pio Elite AVR. it was .75" too big for nearly everything I had or could find. Even worse was trying to find something to house my CS1000p! :biggrin:

    Is it possble, scott, to make that lower compartment directly under the TV taller?
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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    thats what im hoping, i just not sure how im gonna do it to make it taller. like i said, the pieces arent just screwed together, they are glued or something... not sure how i would take it apart.
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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    according to specs on the Onkyo, it is 6.9" tall, my opening up top is EXACTLY 6.5"... i wonder if i remove those feet on the bottom of the reciever if it would fit? im trying to "modify" as little as possible on this thing..

    anyone have a onkyo 608 or similar and can measure it without the feet? also, would removing the feet be a bad thing? are there fans or vents underneat where it needs the gap?
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  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited February 2011
    You have to leave some room for it to breathe. It probably needs at least an inch above it. The top is pretty much continuous vents.
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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    Earthy wrote: »
    You have to leave some room for it to breathe. It probably needs at least an inch above it. The top is pretty much continuous vents.

    was afraid of that. I guess Im just going to have to tear into this thing or put everything below in the doors like I dont want to.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,786
    edited February 2011
    Earthy wrote: »
    You have to leave some room for it to breathe. It probably needs at least an inch above it. The top is pretty much continuous vents.

    Plus Oinkers notoriously run hot. I'd say more than an inch is needed or install a fan. Just my .02
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  • Slinger182
    Slinger182 Posts: 512
    edited February 2011
    ScottL79 wrote: »
    thats what im hoping, i just not sure how im gonna do it to make it taller. like i said, the pieces arent just screwed together, they are glued or something... not sure how i would take it apart.

    This should get it apart for ya pretty quick.

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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    if I were to put the Onkyo underneat and hide it, is there any kind of infared or some deally i can hook to it and have it up visable, so that i can control it with remote without always opening the doors?
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited February 2011
    ScottL79 wrote: »
    thats what im hoping, i just not sure how im gonna do it to make it taller. like i said, the pieces arent just screwed together, they are glued or something... not sure how i would take it apart.

    you mentioned earlier that you were not really great w/ woodworking skills and that this piece of furniture was an anniversary gift.... that being said I would not want to hack into it and have the wife upset. Let her decide where another spot in the house would be ideal for it and ha ve her shop w/ you for another entertainment center that works for your equipment and meets w/ her design sense.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited February 2011
    TNHNDYMAN wrote: »
    you mentioned earlier that you were not really great w/ woodworking skills and that this piece of furniture was an anniversary gift.... that being said I would not want to hack into it and have the wife upset. Let her decide where another spot in the house would be ideal for it and ha ve her shop w/ you for another entertainment center that works for your equipment and meets w/ her design sense.

    Very well said, I was actually considering the same direction.

    It's such a nice piece and wood working skills not quite being where you'd hope them to be, I'd also recommend a dedicated H.T. display/cabinet/console and recommission the lovely gift you presented to your wife.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    Very well said, I was actually considering the same direction.

    It's such a nice piece and wood working skills not quite being where you'd hope them to be, I'd also recommend a dedicated H.T. display/cabinet/console and recommission the lovely gift you presented to your wife.

    well that sounds good, but I just bought this 47" Vizio 240hz tv about a week ago. I spent weeks researching and finding the largest and best tv I can that will fit inside this thing... had I done that, I woulda gone bigger tv :)
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited February 2011
    ScottL79 wrote: »
    well that sounds good, but I just bought this 47" Vizio 240hz tv about a week ago. I spent weeks researching and finding the largest and best tv I can that will fit inside this thing... had I done that, I woulda gone bigger tv :)

    Where did you get the Viz? Most places have a 30 day return policy. I bought my first 42" at my local Video Only, within a week, I complained of some viewing problems and they let me upgrade to a better 42", I just paid the diff.

    I have a 50" now and would eventually like to upgrade to a 60", wall mount baby, wall mount.

    You say it's been just under two weeks, give it a try to see if you can return or exchange for something bigger :wink:
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    Get a wall mount for the TV at partsexpress.com
    Put the receiver on the top of the entertainment center.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited February 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Get a wall mount for the TV at partsexpress.com
    Put the receiver on the top of the entertainment center.

    That's not a terribly bad idea however.........using the armoire for housing the electronics would be slick, especially since you can close it up. But finding a place to mount the new center speaker may pose another problem, and I wouldn't think you'd want the armoire too close to the wall mount as they would detract from one another.

    Unless of course, you set the armoire off to the side a ways from where the tv would be mounted, display another "like" piece of furniture such as low stand beneath the wall mount in order to display the center speaker.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • ScottL79
    ScottL79 Posts: 48
    edited February 2011
    well knowing my wife, this all isnt going to fly. Im going to get a cs2 first hand and see what I can come up with. I was playing around last night and looking at it, i really think i can make this work. hardest part will be finding stain and wood to match this... ill post pics.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited February 2011
    ScottL79 wrote: »
    well knowing my wife, this all isnt going to fly. Im going to get a cs2 first hand and see what I can come up with. I was playing around last night and looking at it, i really think i can make this work. hardest part will be finding stain and wood to match this... ill post pics.

    You go Bro. The CS2 is a beast, makes my 50" look like a 32 but what the hey, it's all about the sound, aesthetics are merely a bonus :smile:
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited February 2011
    hope you have a pre-nup and a good lawyer ;) Just giving you a hard time... if you can make it work go for it. Don't let my name interfer with the fact that most woodworkers have forgotten far more than I'll ever learn. I'm the same way and like to try to figure it out myself at times it works out great and others.... well not so much. Good luck!
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

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  • inthewoods
    inthewoods Posts: 54
    edited February 2011
    I have 6 1/2" under our 58" and the CS2 fits nice due to the sloped back. The 608 is on the right and it puts off the heat so a tight space might not be good even thought it has an internal fan.

    Sorry for the dark picture (yes, the M70's have been moved :wink:)

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  • MCCLIPSE
    MCCLIPSE Posts: 176
    edited February 2011
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
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    Just got the 70's last week. AWESOME sound for the money. I love their big monolithic design. They really make a statement for less then $400 shipped.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited February 2011
    inthewoods wrote: »
    I have 6 1/2" under our 58" and the CS2 fits nice due to the sloped back. The 608 is on the right and it puts off the heat so a tight space might not be good even thought it has an internal fan.

    Those internal fans don't do a thing for dissipating the heat that comes out. I have an 807 and I got a link for these from a guy on the AVS forum....
    http://www.buyextras.com/evavcoblfanf.html

    I have two for the summer when things are really hot, but only use one during the winter, works great.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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