CrossFit

ryanjoachim
ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
edited May 2012 in The Clubhouse
I'm signing up for my local Crossfit program this week. I need to lose at least 75lbs (goal), and simply dieting isn't working.

Has anyone tried this program out before? I've got friends who are in it and swear by it. From what I've heard, the program is enough to make real athletes get so tired they can't walk, so i'm looking forward to it.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2011
    Its pretty intensive. Make sure you eat right and take the correct supplements.

    The owner of the local crossfit gym was taking private lessons at the gymnastics gym my wife works at just on muscle ups on the rings. Dude was ripped from head to toe with no fat and couldnt do a muscle up. Pretty funny because there were 14 year old gymnasts at the time doing them...haha.

    Good luck!
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2011
    Who cares about style? And Atkins? WTF.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    Its pretty intensive. Make sure you eat right and take the correct supplements.

    The owner of the local crossfit gym was taking private lessons at the gymnastics gym my wife works at just on muscle ups on the rings. Dude was ripped from head to toe with no fat and couldnt do a muscle up. Pretty funny because there were 14 year old gymnasts at the time doing them...haha.

    Good luck!
    -Cody

    I have no clue what supplements I would need, but I'll look into that.

    I was thinking of doing the "Jared" diet lol...SUBWAY BABY!
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
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  • punk-roc
    punk-roc Posts: 1,150
    edited January 2011
    Just thought I should point out Atkins is completely un-healthy and potentially dangerous for your body.. weight-loss results or no.. your body needs carb's.. no healthcare professional would be ok with utilizing it for weight loss.

    Now CrossFit is a little intense (and borderline cult-ish, frankly), but significant results can be had with their regimen.

    Just make sure to incorporate healthy eating, along with a change in exercise plan.. just "eating healthy" or "excersizing more" isn't enough.. Permanent habit changes are required..

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    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited January 2011
    Atkins "works" like almost every BS fad diet works - it makes you think about what you eat before you eat it. You lose weight by burning more calories than you ingest, period. You could lose weight eating Twinkies (and a guy did this recently), as long as you didn't eat a lot of them. And it would be about as healthy a diet as Atkins.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,079
    edited January 2011
    My friend owns a CrossFit gym and from the things I hear it is insane. My son will start soon...he is getting ready to turn 16 and wants to improve his football skills as he is the running back. My local CrossFit gym has turned a couple of high school stars into great college football players. We are hoping the same for our Son.


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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2011
    I have no clue what supplements I would need, but I'll look into that.

    I was thinking of doing the "Jared" diet lol...SUBWAY BABY!

    The gym you go with should offer you advice as well.

    You'll want to look into protein intake pre/post work outs. If you're not taking a multi-vitamin, you should be, regardless of if youre dieting/working out or not.

    I'd also start taking some fish oil tablets. 1500mg pill with every meal. (i take about 3600mg with every meal, so consider 1500 a minimum). The benefits of fish oil are pretty endless as well, again, regardless of diet.

    Might even want to look into creatine monohydrate. You'll gain quite a bit of water weight when using it and you're muscles will look bigger since creatine makes them hold more water...so if you get off of it you'll lose some of that 'muscle mass' (but its actually just water). But in the meantime, it helps your muscles recover faster and allows you more reps in the gym. Its more for gaining muscle than losing weight, but if it helps keep your stamina up, it'll help you lose that fat.

    Also, make sure you take some pictures before hand. And if you can, look into getting your body fat professionally measured. (or look up ways online to get a rough estimate if youre cheap like me). Its not so much about losing weight as it is losing fat, and crossfit is going to help you gain muscle mass, which we all know muscle weighs more than fat.

    But getting your body fat measured, as well as looking at before and after pictures...well, they dont lie!
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2011
    While I don't doubt some people can go into intense physical workout programs and succeed, the number that will is incredibly small. Why? Because your body can hurt and it gets boring. Its easy to give up.

    My suggestion would be to cut out sodas, energy drinks, candy, processed foods (diet foods suck) and all of that crap. All of it! Buy those Ziplock bags at a grocery store - the "100 Calories" size. Fill those with healthful snacks. Fresh fruits and veggies are great -- no high fat dips. Don't freak out about some fats and carbs, just make sure they're good fats and good carbs. Your body needs it all, including protein. Fish, Pork Chops and Chicken **** pan fried in olive oil is very good for you. Eat 6 times a day.

    6:00 AM
    10:00 AM
    12:00 PM
    2:00 PM
    4:00 PM
    6:00 PM

    NO LARGE MEALS. All small snack stuff.

    Start slow with a workout program. Walking, biking or jogging. I'd suggest doing 30 minutes a day (more as you get into it) 5-6 times a week.

    This is all about portion control. As you get to your goal weight, you can move back into eating "normal." However, you need to stick with eating less more often at that point. You'll be satisfied with less. Its all about retraining the mentality that got you into your bad routine.

    Your body will always feel fed and will drop the excess weight. Crash diets will make you retain your weight and is unhealthy.

    My point is -- save your money. You can do this on your own...maybe invest in a stationary bike. Being healthy is a lifestyle change, not a quick fix. Save the intense workout routines for when you're in good shape. That's who they're designed for.

    If you stick to this, I guarantee you will never be hungry and you will drop the weight.

    Good luck!
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2011
    Thanks for the tips Demi. I'll definitely look at the "eating less more often" idea, as that seems like something that would work well for me.

    At this point in my life though, I do need someone pushing me and forcing me to continue working out, etc. Once I get some results in, then I can push myself to keep going...but I just don't have the willpower right now to do it on my own.

    Cody - Thanks for the tips on supplements and vitamins, I'll be sure to look into those. And yes, I do realize that I won't lose as much weight as I may "want" by working out like this. I'm OK with rebuilding muscle that I've lost over the years, I'm just more focus on losing the "beer belly" and "moobs".
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2011
    Thanks for the tips Demi. I'll definitely look at the "eating less more often" idea, as that seems like something that would work well for me.

    At this point in my life though, I do need someone pushing me and forcing me to continue working out, etc. Once I get some results in, then I can push myself to keep going...but I just don't have the willpower right now to do it on my own.

    Cody - Thanks for the tips on supplements and vitamins, I'll be sure to look into those. And yes, I do realize that I won't lose as much weight as I may "want" by working out like this. I'm OK with rebuilding muscle that I've lost over the years, I'm just more focus on losing the "beer belly" and "moobs".

    No problem. I hope you find something that will work for you.

    Just a couple more things, if I may...

    You can do it on your own. Its easier if you have a motivating factor or two, but if you don't have a friend or significant other -- its going to cost you more than you're gonna lose weight wise. :tongue:

    If you have kids...something...use it as motivation to be here for them for a long time. No need to get overly dramatic about it, but there's nothing better than having a purpose for what you're doing beyond yourself.

    If you stick to the eating less more often routine, you can lose weight without exercise. There just won't be any 'wow' factor to that. Its going to be a very slow process.

    If you have any will power issues, throwing yourself into the fire probably isn't going to yield good results and you're going to be out a bunch of money that you could have spent on chips and beer. :tongue:

    Good luck!
  • mudwrx
    mudwrx Posts: 367
    edited January 2011
    A good friend of mine is currently doing cross fit. I will ask him to send his input on this.

    Looks like crazy workouts!
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2011
    Ryan,

    Eating less more often isnt exactly a new idea if you've been dieting in the last few years. No BS, have you really dieted or just somewhat watched what you ate?

    Asking for a couple of reasons.

    1. Dieting is a faster way to lose weight than exercising. You can jog for 30 minutes and burn 250 kcalories, or you can spend 20 minutes preparing an egg white, fat free cheese, and grilled chicken breast omelet with some bell peppers and 'burn' 400 calories over eating that bacon/egg/cheese biscuit with hash browns at McDonalds...not to mention tripling your protein intake.

    2. Crossfit is intense. So intense that a lot of out of shape people quit. So I hope you're really motivated.

    To elaborate on what Demi said, if you drink regular sodas...STOP! I know some people can't just stop drinking sodas. But buy a coke zero instead. Its not to replace water, but its 10x better than regular sodas. Buy Crystal Light. I have 3 pitchers of that stuff at a time in my fridge 80% of the time.

    LOOK AT LABELS!!!
    I've seen a survey online that when asked how many calories a certain food they ate was, the underestimated by about half.

    If you cant live without fast food, theres a book called 'Eat This, Not That'. Buy it, live by it.

    www.calorieking.com can also be your friend. Its a quick way to look up nutrition facts on common foods.

    One thing I'd like to add, is that if you can, get a similarly-motivated friend to join you in crossfit. Nothing like getting a call in the morning "hey fat ****, didnt see you at crossfit last night." Or make friends with the people there.

    The nice thing about most crossfit places is, unlike a gym, you work in groups. So you can feed off each other's energy and get to know people a little better.

    And last, don't give up. To lose weight, you need to diet AND exercise. Eat a Big Mac at McDonalds? Oh well, dont think what you did is not reversible and use it as an excuse to quit. "Oh, I ate that hamburger, I blew my diet, might as well do what I did before now" is not the mentality you should have. And it seems like some of the most successful diets incorporate a free meal or two a week, depending on your weight. Why? Because it makes you feel that eating bad once in a while isn't necessarily a bad thing, but rather something thats planned.

    Now that really doesnt go for some foods....say The Outbacks Cheese fries with ranch dressing...2900 Calories for that plate...before you even start your meal. (from the Eat This, Not That book)

    Here's another interesting tid bit from that book. "A recent study found that subjects ate 350 calories more at subway than at mcdonalds. Researchers call it "health halo": the tendency to overeat when they believe they're eating at a healthy restaurant"

    Just goes to show you how important portion control and reading the labels are!
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2011
    P90X, CrossFit, dieting, etc. are only as effective as the people who are attempting to use them. Frustration, soreness, stale training, etc. are all reasons that these workout regimens and diets do not work long term. Atkins is absolutely unhealthy and something that I never recommend to my clients for multiple reasons. The ONLY effective, long term diet that truly works in my opinion is the exchange principle. It is based on the daily caloric intake that your doctor recommends. You then get a point value based on this number. Each serving of food has an exchange value, so you can eat what you want, but the portions may be much smaller than your are used to. It takes a lot of willpower, ,but you are able to "reward" yourself with what you want, just smaller, controlled protions. Fruits and vegetables hold lower point values and meats and cheeses hold higher point values. Its what Weight Watchers is based on, but only works when the individual holds themselves accountable. That and a regular exercise routine (not body building or running a marathin, but could be as simple as circuit training or a long walk).
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2011
    Eat less. Exercise more. It is a lifestyle change. You need to commit for the rest of your life. Otherwise, don't waste your time.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2011
    Try to take the word diet out of the equation, because diet = failure for most.

    You need to change the way you think about food and eating entirely. Trying to drop 75 pounds indicates a bigger issue with the lifestyle of the individual than the person just trying to drop a fast 5-10 pounds because their pants are a little too tight. There's a lifestyle problem that included little to no exercise, eating too much, or both.

    I'm not a fan of the twig and berries, never have any bacon people. They're utterly joyless, miserable people. Just don't eat a whole pound of bacon at one sitting...and exercise a little bit each day. Once you're at an ideal weight you can stop the boring exercise routine and start working exercise into normal activities, like playing baseball or basketball. You know, something that's actually fun rather than jogging on a treadmill for 30 mins.

    We all need to indulge from time to time, just don't be a total pig about it.
  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited January 2011
    Lots of great advice here. I will say that I've found exercise much easier to stick to if I choose something I actually find fun anyway.

    That's why I'm taking Muay Thai and BJJ now. I'm 36 and just getting started, so I'm obviously not training for the next UFC fight. No, this is more just something I like doing that has exercise as a byproduct. I'd recommend finding something similar. You definitely also need to walk/run, but I find it much easier to make myself go to class versus make myself run a mile everyday...
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited January 2011
    jflail2 wrote: »
    Lots of great advice here. I will say that I've found exercise much easier to stick to if I choose something I actually find fun anyway.

    That's why I'm taking Muay Thai and BJJ now. I'm 36 and just getting started, so I'm obviously not training for the next UFC fight. No, this is more just something I like doing that has exercise as a byproduct. I'd recommend finding something similar. You definitely also need to walk/run, but I find it much easier to make myself go to class versus make myself run a mile everyday...

    Agreed...if I had money to spare, I'd much rather be taking Krav Maga lessons than running sprints on the track.

    BTW, extremely lean ground beef, chicken ****, fat free shredded cheese, grilled fish (tilapia, halibut, cod, lobster, crab) should be a permanent staple in your diet!
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  • mudwrx
    mudwrx Posts: 367
    edited January 2011
    Here is some advice from my friend who is currently doing cross fit workouts:

    - Write down your times for each Workout of the Day (WOD)
    * This will give you a benchmark for future workouts

    - Start at two times per week, increase to four times per week (or more)

    - Check out Paleo diet

    - Have fun!
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2011
    The Crossfit here has a 2-week "Academy", which goes over the basics of HOW to exercise safely, as well as doing the WOD (Workout of the Day) 3 times a week. I'm going to try the Academy and see if it's something that I can handle.

    I used to really enjoy working out in high school, both in the gym and on the field (football practices). We'll see how it goes.
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  • mystik610
    mystik610 Posts: 699
    edited January 2011
    A guy in our office is into cross-fit, and he lost a crazy amount of weight.

    I did two rounds of P90x (6 months) last year and dropped close to 40 pounds, while packing on some long lost muscle. I started it again 2 weeks ago, and it's kicking my ****$ all over again.

    From my discussions with my co-workers, P90x and cross-fit are built around the same philosophies, though cross-fit does seem harder. (P90x is more convenient for me).

    Whatever you decide to do, make it a lifestyle change, and make sure its something you can realistically perpetuate. The atkins diet is a fad....It's actually bad for your health and isn't something you can possibly keep up for ever. Deprivation diets don't work....at least not long-term. Most people I know who did Atkins or the master-clense, put the weight back on when they stopped...and that's the problem with these diets...you eventually HAVE to stop them.

    Excercise and challenge different aspects of your body (strength, muscular endurance, cardiovascular endurance, flexibility etc etc). Eat a NUTRITIOUS, well balanced diet....that's infinitely more important than counting calories or carbs or fats. (Nutritious foods that have more calories are better for you than nutritionally empty foods that are lower in calories, carbs, fat etc etc).
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    Very easy to injure yourself doing crossfit.

    I stick to beer can lifts.... and it shows.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2011
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Excercise and challenge different aspects of your body (strength, muscular endurance, cardiovascular endurance, flexibility etc etc). Eat a NUTRITIOUS, well balanced diet....that's infinitely more important than counting calories or carbs or fats. (Nutritious foods that have more calories are better for you than nutritionally empty foods that are lower in calories, carbs, fat etc etc).

    Maybe I'm picking nits, but when you're trying to drop pounds, I don't agree that counting calories isn't as important as simply having a nutritious, well balanced diet. Burning more calories than you consume in a day is the name of the game. Its as important, if not more.

    If you only shift from eating high bad fats and calorie foods to healthy foods, but keep your same overeating habits, you're not doing yourself any good. You're still consuming too many calories.

    The best way to lose weight combines all three factors:

    Eating Less
    Eating Better
    Moving More

    Stick with that, you'll be successful.
  • mystik610
    mystik610 Posts: 699
    edited January 2011
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Maybe I'm picking nits, but when you're trying to drop pounds, I don't agree that counting calories isn't as important as simply having a nutritious, well balanced diet. Burning more calories than you consume in a day is the name of the game. Its as important, if not more.

    If you only shift from eating high bad fats and calorie foods to healthy foods, but keep your same overeating habits, you're not doing yourself any good. You're still consuming too many calories.

    The best way to lose weight combines all three factors:

    Eating Less
    Eating Better
    Moving More

    Stick with that, you'll be successful.

    Generally yes, and I'm not advocating over eating. The point I was trying to make is that you shouldn't forgo eating nutritionally for the sake of restricting calories. There are a lot of 'low calorie' foods out there that are terrible for you and offer nothing nutritionally. ie, if given a choice of a 100 calorie pack of nutritionally dead crackers or a banana which has more calories, a cup of yogurt which has more fat, or a granola bar which has more carbs...which think is better for you? How about a diet coke vs a glass or orange juice? How about a 'lean pocket' (people at my office love em) vs a turkey sandwhich on whole grain bread with some veggies?

    I've done the whole calorie deprivation diet, and it isn't something you can possibly sustain....It leaves you drained, because the way most people approach it, the body is being nutritionally deprived too (multi-vitamins aren't enough). When the body is deprived it starts tearing down muscle and lowering your metabolism. I've never been able to keep the weight off from a calorie deprived diet, but I've kept the weight I lost last year off ever since.

    Eating healthy, energizing foods is sustainable, good for you, balances your body and well-being......all of that is far more important than restricting calories, even if it means you lose the weight a little bit slower. You'd be suprised how much weight flies off when its fueld by nutritious foods. It's also very much a necessary part of an intensive workout program like P90x and cross-fit.
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited January 2011
    I'm signing up for my local Crossfit program this week. I need to lose at least 75lbs (goal), and simply dieting isn't working.

    Alright, it's been a week since you posted about signing up.

    Did you sign up?
    Did you go?
    How did it go?
    Did you pass out? Don't be embarrassed if you did. I did with P90x. :biggrin:
    Have you modify your eating habits?
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2011
    I signed up on Saturday, and my first class is tonight (had to wait for my paycheck). I went and checked out one of their workouts on Saturday, just to see what the atmosphere was like. It was great!

    Very friendly trainers, nice people to exercise with. The workouts look like they're going to make me cry...but i'm actually kind of looking forward to it.

    I'm working on figuring out what I can and can't eat easily (dentures are still being modified and perfected), but I am definitely planning on changing my eating habits. I have a feeling that's going to be a lot harder than the exercising.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited January 2011
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Generally yes, and I'm not advocating over eating. The point I was trying to make is that you shouldn't forgo eating nutritionally for the sake of restricting calories. There are a lot of 'low calorie' foods out there that are terrible for you and offer nothing nutritionally. ie, if given a choice of a 100 calorie pack of nutritionally dead crackers or a banana which has more calories, a cup of yogurt which has more fat, or a granola bar which has more carbs...which think is better for you? How about a diet coke vs a glass or orange juice? How about a 'lean pocket' (people at my office love em) vs a turkey sandwhich on whole grain bread with some veggies?

    I've done the whole calorie deprivation diet, and it isn't something you can possibly sustain....It leaves you drained, because the way most people approach it, the body is being nutritionally deprived too (multi-vitamins aren't enough). When the body is deprived it starts tearing down muscle and lowering your metabolism. I've never been able to keep the weight off from a calorie deprived diet, but I've kept the weight I lost last year off ever since.

    Eating healthy, energizing foods is sustainable, good for you, balances your body and well-being......all of that is far more important than restricting calories, even if it means you lose the weight a little bit slower. You'd be suprised how much weight flies off when its fueld by nutritious foods. It's also very much a necessary part of an intensive workout program like P90x and cross-fit.


    I might not have been as clear as I should have, because I wasn't at all suggesting calorie deprivation. My point was that we eat way too much of everything in general. In fact, in an earlier post I made mention of how crappy so-called diet foods are:
    Demiurge wrote: »

    My suggestion would be to cut out sodas, energy drinks, candy, processed foods (diet foods suck) and all of that crap. All of it! Buy those Ziplock bags at a grocery store - the "100 Calories" size. Fill those with healthful snacks. Fresh fruits and veggies are great -- no high fat dips. Don't freak out about some fats and carbs, just make sure they're good fats and good carbs. Your body needs it all, including protein. Fish, Pork Chops and Chicken **** pan fried in olive oil is very good for you. Eat 6 times a day.

    Although I'm not trying to lose, I actually live what I say here in this thread. I'm never feeling starved. I eat 6 times a day, and rarely do I ever have a complete meal. Its just unnecessary for me. Its completely sustainable.

    Starving yourself is a really dumb way to lose weight because its unhealthy. It also makes it harder to lose the weight. Your body will hang on to fat stores when its not getting fed. Your body likes to be fed often. When that happens in small quantities, rather than large calorie rich meals, combined with exercise, the pounds drop fast.
  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited January 2011
    I just got back from my cross-fit class, and I can tell you that it was one hell of a workout.

    There was a ton of good advice posted here, I'm so glad to see that many Polkies are taking care of themselves.

    Me and my wife use a private trainer for cross fit (yeah I got her into it too) and even though it's only been a few months, I like the one-on-one with the trainer and he is not expensive.....the results are there and they show. I've also been doing P90x for about 8 months as well as yoga.

    You need to set yourself some goals, and when you reach them, set some more goals. I signed up for the bike run to Conquer Cancer. It's a yearly fund raiser and it takes place this July. So on top of Crossfit, P90x, and yoga, I bought a road bike (picking it up from the bike shop on Thursday) and starting to train for the upcoming run in July. This gives me about 6 months to get ready for the 2-day run from Montreal to Quebec City. It's not a race, but it gives me motivation to get in shape for it.

    I suggest you read and re-read the advice given here about nutrition and eating habits and say to yourself that this is a "lifestyle change". Better yet, you don't want to change, because changing means you can change back...you want to TRANSFORM yourself, therefore, there is no going back.

    Here is an easy daily reminder to keep you motivated....look at people who are out of shape, look at old folks that are in pain, and ask yourself if you want to be like that.

    Myself, I'm 53, and although I can't do anything about getting older, I can do something about being healthy when I'm older. I am preparing my body for old age NOW so I can enjoy life as long as possible in the healthiest way possible. There's no more putting this off!!!......you cannot wait till you're 70 and find yourself saying "I shoulda, I coulda".

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  • mystik610
    mystik610 Posts: 699
    edited February 2011
    Demiurge wrote: »
    I might not have been as clear as I should have, because I wasn't at all suggesting calorie deprivation. My point was that we eat way too much of everything in general. In fact, in an earlier post I made mention of how crappy so-called diet foods are:



    Although I'm not trying to lose, I actually live what I say here in this thread. I'm never feeling starved. I eat 6 times a day, and rarely do I ever have a complete meal. Its just unnecessary for me. Its completely sustainable.

    Starving yourself is a really dumb way to lose weight because its unhealthy. It also makes it harder to lose the weight. Your body will hang on to fat stores when its not getting fed. Your body likes to be fed often. When that happens in small quantities, rather than large calorie rich meals, combined with exercise, the pounds drop fast.

    I think you and I are on the same page actually. Portion control and splitting up meals are the basic foundations of any healthy diet program. That's a given. The point I was trying to make is that we shouldn't neglect our nutrition for the sake of counting calories or carbs or whatever it is some fad diet tells us to restrict. This isn't directed at you specifically. I'm speaking more in terms of people who advocate things like Atkins, the master clense, extreme calorie deprivation, or anyone who is overly concerned with what they're taking out of their diet, without being mindful of what they are (or aren’t) taking in.

    What drives me insane are the things that people eat purely because they are low in calories, carbs, sugar, fat etc. A lot of people become so fixated on their calorie intake and what they AREN’T eating, that they lose sight of the nutritional value of the things they ARE eating. Again, I'm not directing this at you, but let’s face it, there are a lot of so called 'healthy' foods that are over processed and terrible for you....many of them containing ingredients that our body can't effectively or efficiently break down. And people eat these things in lieu of nutriotious options simply because they are lower in calories than more natural options like fruit, nuts, yogurt, and whole grains etc.

    Calories are a measure of energy...not a measure of nutrional value, and not all calories are created equal. Low calorie junk is a lot worse for you than higher calorie nutritious food. If given a choice between a 200 calorie piece of fruit, and a 100 calorie bag of baked chips, eat the damn fruit!

    My opinion on this is also geared towards the OP, who is looking to take on cross-fit. Work outs like cross-fit and P90x combine a number of different athletic disciplines, and push your body to extremes if several different ways. They are not formed on the outdated concepts of Calories Taken In - Caloried Burned = Weight loss (that plays a part, but it isn't the central focus) They are all about being healthy overall, not strictly about dropping pounds, and that’s the way it should be. Towards the latter end of my rounds of P90x my food/calorie intake was actually increasing, and the weight was flying off faster than it had in the earlier phases.

    You will lose a lot of weight doing these programs, however, they are not designed to be a race to see how fast you can lose weight…rather they are designed to make your body stronger overall, and you need to eat enough (but not too much) of the right foods to keep up with the physical demands of the program. The difference between being able to power through a work-out (and fully benefiting from them) and burning yourself out is often a matter of how well you fuel your body with the right nutrients.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited February 2011
    Yep, we're on the same page. :biggrin: I didn't know where you were going with the counting calories comment at first. The guy that needs to drop 75 pounds is gonna need to watch how much he eats in conjunction with some kind of exercise regimen.

    I have the P90X program, and the nutrition part of that program eating good foods and not eating too much of it is as important as going through the workout.

    I agree that any fad diets aren't sustainable. Atkins is a joke.
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2011
    Well, had my first Crossfit workout last night. After the warmups were done, my body was ready to say "ok, great workout...lets go home!".

    The WOD was 36 reps of 8 different exercises, from pushups to pullups, from 360 meter (x3) runs, to wall ball to box jumping to double unders.

    (Un)fortunately, I was only allowed to do 10 reps of each, since it was my first day and I'm so damn fat (out of shape lol). By the time I got done (took me exactly 24 minutes to finish) I could barely walk. Lifting my water bottle was hard.

    It was the hardest thing I've had to do in 10 years, and i'm looking forward to going back tomorrow and on Friday.

    Oh, and word of warning - friends don't let friends Crossfit and drive! I could barely turn the wheel on my way home.
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