Signal Cable vs Monster Cable - Speaker Cable

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2007
    Demiurge wrote:
    Put me in the Cables Matter crowd.

    Sorry...we're all full. You'll have to wait until someone changes their mind or dies. We'll call.;)
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    Glad to hear it:)


    Me too! Thanks again. :D
    shack wrote: »
    Sorry...we're all full. You'll have to wait until someone changes their mind or dies. We'll call.;)

    Damn, I always miss out on the good clubs. Maybe it's me....

    Anyhow you know you just set up a cable denier to say:

    "Yeah, you're full, full of ****!!" :p

    :D:D
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2007
    Demiurge wrote:
    Anyhow you know you just set up a cable denier to say:

    "Yeah, you're full, full of ****!!" :p

    :D:D

    You do understand we (the Cables Matter crowd) don't care what cable deniers think or say.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited April 2007
    I smell a storm a'brewin....
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited April 2007
    I smell a storm a'brewin....

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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited April 2007
    Now these are some sexy cables......:D
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    They are pretty cool looking. Wonder if that guy makes speaker cable, too. Those look familiar, like I've seen 'em someplace else. Hmmm...:D
    Wristwatch--->Crisco
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited April 2007
    I have quite a few of Monster's higher-end interconnects and am very happy with them. I am especially happy with the Monster's balanced XLR interconnects. Very nice cables that sound sweet and are incredibly heavy-duty.

    Many of Monster's products are actually very nice. However, they can be a bit pricey... watch out that they are priced competitively. Monster is doing better in this regard.

    I also have a nice Signal Cable balanced XLR digital interconnect. Impressive piece of cabling.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited May 2007
    Had to bring up an old thread after installing my new Ultra Speaker Cables from SignalCable. I changed out every monster cable(IC's) I had to include the monster speaker wire. I thought the monster cable I had was good but the Ultra Speaker Cable I installed makes a huge difference in music and HT. I also changed out my 4 yr old monster subwoofer cable along with the toslink cable to my 360. My system sounds so good right now, its worth every penny I spent on cables. Im going to order two more power cords for my HDDVDp and Sony BluRayp. All that signalcable sure does look good as well as sounds fantastic. Once the cables break in Im sure it will sound even better. Im on the cable wagon now for sure.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2007
    Just received my Signal Cables today to replace some old Monster Cables. Nice but subtle difference. Definitely a wise investment.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,199
    edited June 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Just received my Signal Cables today to replace some old Monster Cables. Nice but subtle difference. Definitely a wise investment.

    I did the same and I'm curious what subtle differences you noticed? When you respond I'll tell you what I noticed.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2007
    Clearer mids and treble. Not much of a difference in bass, not that I need anymore.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,199
    edited June 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Clearer mids and treble. Not much of a difference in bass, not that I need anymore.

    I'd have to say the same thing. My bass tightened up a bit a bit more open in the mids and maybe a bit less grain in the treble. Not dramatic but noticeable

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2007
    Forgot to mention, I also purchased a Silver Resolution Reference SilverMini Interconnect for connecting my PC to my pre. I used to get a "error" once in a while, usually from guitars. It's now gone.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited June 2007
    Well I guess I will chime in here with my experience with signal cables. I had bought a pair of used signal cables from Bill ayotte and the differences between what I was using and these were instantly apparent.

    The ones I was using were not monster cables. But pretty standard 10 gauge speaker wire with bananas on both ends. cost was around 50- 75 cents per foot plus the 5 dollars or so a pair for the bananas.

    The biggest change that I noticed was in the treble, the harshness that was there was gone and clarity was greatly improved.

    The midrange appeared to be pretty similar.

    The bass was not increased but was tighter and more controlled and sounded faster?

    Also the depth of the soundstage was increased by a good margin.

    These things were as as mentioned earlier were instantly apparent, not something I had to listen intently too for long periods of time.

    As to as far as where the law of disminshing returns becomes apparent who knows?

    I know that for the money paid I am very satisfied. I cant think of anything else that I could do for less than a $100.00 bill that would increase the quality and enjoyment of music as much.

    Would it make the same amount of change percentage wise if I spent $1000.00 on speaker cables? Perhaps or perhaps not, But yes there is no doubt in my mind or ears that cables and inter connects do matter.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2007
    I believe these opinions reflect that it's possible to enjoy the benefits of upgraded cables and not break the bank.

    Signal Cable and other similar brands, to include DIY, are not that expensive and usually offer a 30-day Money Back Guarantee.....how can you argue that?

    Happy Listening folks!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,340
    edited June 2007
    I probably own 9 or 19 Signal interconnects that I bought from Frank and some used. I've always been more than satisfied with the quality and performance. Signal has always had a high performance/cost ratio.

    I close friend of mine recently bought some interconnects and power cable from Frank and when I saw them I was a little taken back. The quality was less than I was used to seeing. The plug end of the Magic power cable was very loose when inserted into a Hubble receptacle. The TechFlex application was poor and the Eichman connectors wouldn't fit the RCA inputs. Anyone else notice any quality problems with Signal?
    Carl

  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited June 2007
    schwarcw wrote: »
    I probably own 9 or 19 Signal interconnects that I bought from Frank and some used. I've always been more than satisfied with the quality and performance. Signal has always had a high performance/cost ratio.

    I close friend of mine recently bought some interconnects and power cable from Frank and when I saw them I was a little taken back. The quality was less than I was used to seeing. The plug end of the Magic power cable was very loose when inserted into a Hubble receptacle. The TechFlex application was poor and the Eichman connectors wouldn't fit the RCA inputs. Anyone else notice any quality problems with Signal?

    The Techflex on a few of my Analog II's was kinda crappy....No big deal for me, because I became really familiar with Techflex in the last few months, but for someone who is not familiar with how to cut it properly, it can make it worse....It was cut WAY too long on about three sets of mine, and would bunch up....It is really a cosmetic thing, but having to re-heatshrink six cables was a pain in the ****....Performance wise, you really are hard pressed to beat them though...Once I can get up and running again though, I will be replacing them with my own......:D
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited June 2007
    BTW, Eichmann plugs can sometimes be a pain in the **** the first time you hook them up....My Bayonets were a royal pain in the **** to get fully seated the first time I installed them, but they are a lot better now....The Bayonets fought like hell to not be fully seated, but they got there eventually....I would assume the Bullets are the same way....I'll tell you what though, those connectors are super simple to solder....You have to try to screw up those...I am thinking I am going to go full Bullet connectors when I am able to get some workshop space again....
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2007
    If you have quality control issues with the cables, email Frank....its that simple.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited May 2011
    I am not just continueing a thread that was started about 37 years ago. Heiny9 your were right,it was certainly not worth the dough and could have waited a few more weeks .Somepeople learn by making costly mistakes, some by not listening at all or those who are bullied. I'm in the should have noticed and a week or two wouldn't of matattered at all. I do learn by listening ,reading, demo , and of course can I afford this now.... YOU GUYS AND YOUR WIRES ARE DRIVING ME NUTTY.
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