Need help with suggestions on laying out the DAC components.

headrott
headrott Posts: 5,496
edited January 2011 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I have a few layouts for the components for my DAC, but I wouldlike other peoples' suggestions on how they think I should lay them out.

Ben, can you call me and maybe we can talk about the layout if you have some time?

If anyone has some good suggestions on the layout please post them here. Thank you for your help.

Greg
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Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited January 2011
    Boy you weren't kidding when you said you were in the middle of building a dac. :cool:

    The only thing I would do is move the 2 Iron core transformers in line with the Toroidal transformer. On second thought I would rearrange the whole Power Supply section so that it was as far away from everything else as possible.
    “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    gimpod wrote: »
    Boy you weren't kidding when you said you were in the middle of building a dac. :cool:

    The only thing I would do is move the 2 Iron core transformers in line with the Toroidal transformer. On second thought I would rearrange the whole Power Supply section so that it was as far away from everything else as possible.

    Yep:smile:
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2011
    Thanks for the suggestions Tony and Ben. One thing with the transformers is that the 2 R-core ones only have about 5 to 6 inch wires on them so there is only so far I can move them from the input terminals on the far left and right of the Tubeizator boards (in the purple squares).

    However, I could use that terminal (on the extreme right towards the front) to "extend" the wires on the R-cores, and toroidal transformers to move them towards the front. But, that just adds another power weakening link in the chain. Do you guys think it's worth it?

    I am of course going to keep the transformers as far away from the PCBs as possible though as it is now. Let me know what you guys think.

    Greg
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited January 2011
    Greg,

    Can you rotate the Tubeizator boards 90 deg. That would also shorten up the anolog output leads.
    “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2011
    If I do rotate the tubeizator boards 90 degrees I cannot fir the Buffalo II DAC in the middle of them, unfortunately.

    I could turn them 90 degrees and then move the Buffalo II to the back of the chassis along with the SPDIF/MUX reciever. This would mean extending the power cable lines to each board though (Buffalo II and SPDIF/MUX).

    Is it better to have the power lines shorter or the analog lines shorter?

    Greg
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited January 2011
    headrott wrote: »
    I could turn them 90 degrees and then move the Buffalo II to the back of the chassis along with the SPDIF/MUX reciever. This would mean extending the power cable lines to each board though (Buffalo II and SPDIF/MUX).

    This is probably your best bet. And yes it's best to try and keep your analog I/O leads as short as possible.
    “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited January 2011
    I would arrange the PCB so everything is short wiring to each, but keeping the power supplies far from everything else.

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2011
    gimpod wrote: »
    This is probably your best bet. And yes it's best to try and keep your analog I/O leads as short as possible.

    I tried rotating the tubeizator boards 90 degress, but the capacitors get in each others way so I have to move one tubeizator board forward more than the other. Overall it doesn't work as well this way. Things get in each others way and the transformers overall are closer to the tubeizator boards and the HV shunt boards are further away from the tubeizators. The analog wires from the tubeizators are barely shorter, but not that much (maybe 2 inches).

    One question I had about hooking the transformers up to the power distribution block I got, and hooking up the AC power into the power distirbution block (from the IEC socket). If I have a 2 position input and 4 (2 position) outputs. If I hook the "Live" wire from the IEC socket to one position on the block and the "return" wire to the other input position on the power distribution block, how do I hook the 4 primary leads on the R-core transformer and toroidal transformer into the output of the power distribution block? Do I hook the 2 primaries in parallel (the red and green 115V primary) together and put them in the "Live" output of the power distribution block. then hook the orange and yellow 115V primary (in parallel) on the R-core transformer and put these in the "return" output position on the power distribution block? Then do the same for the other R-core and the toroidal transformer? I got 30 minutes of sleep last night and am probably not thinking well. Thanks again for your help.

    Greg
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited January 2011
    Greg, Sorry to thread jack but you need to get hold of me by PM, e-mail of call (before 6:00pm PST)
    “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain