Meh, did I get ripped off? (Pics inside)
Justaguy_99
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Ordered a tweeter from Ebay that was described as following:
"Both the tweeter and surrounding diaphragm are in very nice condition.
This tweeter came out of a working pair of Polk RT1000i's. It is in perfect working order. As you can see from the supersized photos it is in nice condition as well. Dome is perfect. This tweeter has been fully sweep and program tested. DCR 5.9"
The "supersized photo" he included looked like this:
The tweeter looks like this:
I'm disappointed with the condition of the dome. I plugged it into the speaker, it does seem to be in functioning order, but I lack the proper equipment to really drive it to a loud volume where I could detect any problems. That's definitely not what I imagined a perfect dome looking like and I don't want to have to replace this tweeter again in the near future. Should I be asking for my money back? Is this kind of damage negligible? Is it possible for a tweeter that looks like this to pass testing?
Many thanks in advance.
Steve
"Both the tweeter and surrounding diaphragm are in very nice condition.
This tweeter came out of a working pair of Polk RT1000i's. It is in perfect working order. As you can see from the supersized photos it is in nice condition as well. Dome is perfect. This tweeter has been fully sweep and program tested. DCR 5.9"
The "supersized photo" he included looked like this:
The tweeter looks like this:
I'm disappointed with the condition of the dome. I plugged it into the speaker, it does seem to be in functioning order, but I lack the proper equipment to really drive it to a loud volume where I could detect any problems. That's definitely not what I imagined a perfect dome looking like and I don't want to have to replace this tweeter again in the near future. Should I be asking for my money back? Is this kind of damage negligible? Is it possible for a tweeter that looks like this to pass testing?
Many thanks in advance.
Steve
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you probably need to discuss this with the seller
to address any and all of your concerns.
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Well, yeah, that's the idea. But the seller is going to have a bias whereas I can trust my anonymous internet friends. I don't want to have a discussion with him not knowing the basics of tweeter damage.
FYI, the seller is not from this forum to my knowledge.
Steve -
While that tweeter may work, it is damaged rather badly. This is looks like a clear cut case of what clipping at high volume levels can do to a tweeter. You can tell in the supersized photo that the tweeter is screwed and while it may be in perfect "working" order, it's far from perfect. Actually it needs replacing IMO.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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Get your money back or leave negative feedback which is something most sellers make an effort to avoid. Did you check his feedback before bidding?TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE.
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I agree with treitz3 and suggest you return the tweeter with the request for a refund.While that tweeter may work, it is damaged rather badly. This is looks like a clear cut case of what clipping at high volume levels can do to a tweeter. You can tell in the supersized photo that the tweeter is screwed and while it may be in perfect "working" order, it's far from perfect. Actually it needs replacing IMO.DARE TO SOAR:
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I would want my money back.. I thought polk still sold that tweeter..
If I was you I would let the seller know that I want a refund,can we ask what you paid for it?? -
Immediate thoughts...
Judging from the tile floor, this looks to be your seller...
http://cgi.ebay.com/POLK-AUDIO-MW7201-RT1000i-FACTORY-WOOFER-MW7200-/230567656542?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item35aee73c5e
Feedback rating approaching 4000 with 100% positive feedback so I would not assume "rip-off". I'd tell him you received it and ask as an aside why he is parting out "a working pair of Polk RT1000i's".
IMO it would sound bad, or at least different from your other tri-lams, at moderate volumes. So listen a while. (I dented a CS-400's tri-lam in transit once, popped it back out, put the grill on and it was fine.) But if you either hear a problem or just can't live with its appearance, negotiate a return.
That said from seller's perspective:
- He said perfect working order, nothing about appearance; and
- Assuming he shipped you the tweeter mounted as shown, you have already removed and remounted the tweet in your speaker (looks like a CS something-or-other), so how would he know you did not damage it.
Aside: I've never seen physical damage of a tweeter dome attributed to clipping... but I do live a sheltered lifeMore later,
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I was gathering a little ebay price data and ran across your seller's ebay ad...
Dude... he even warned you...The diaphragm is snapped into the bezel and the magnet assembly attaches and locks in place in the rear. It is possible to remove it, but it is tricky and the clip usually breaks, you may risk damage to the diaphragm.
Forget what I said about a return if you can't live with it... It's yours.More later,
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You're assuming I damaged it when I removed it from the RT1000i bezel, when I did not. The tweeter as shown in the pic is exactly how it arrived, just removed from the RT1000i bezel and installed into the CS400i bezel so I could listen to it without damaging the leads to the tweeter. I have removed other tweeters in my other polks in the same fashion without damaging them. The tweeter dome had already been separated, it already had been burned, my installation did not cause any additional damage. I'm not in the business of **** people over due to my own ineptitude (of which I have plenty) and I will thank you NOT to insinuate otherwise. Seriously.
That said, Donnie was a true gentleman about it. We worked out a solution and I'm very satisfied with his service. His feedback rating definitely reflects his business approach, he has earned it. I hope I get a chance to do business again with him in the future. Thanks all for helping me out.
Steve -
I wasn't insinuating anything... I was flat out saying...
If it was damaged when you received it (something you never said, but merely insinuated) that should have been the end of the story right there.
You may be a great guy, but I don't know you.. and neither does Donnie. Did you tell Donnie that you transplanted the tweeter?More later,
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"It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
"There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD -
If you seen it damaged and didnt like it then, why did you remove it and reinstall it in your bezel. when you wanted a refund or exchange or what ever.
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He's learning. Cut him some slack, please. It is obvious to the well trained eye and experienced that the tweeter sustained some excessive high voltage/current, enough to melt it. That, as mentioned, was obvious to me [and I'm sure many others] from the first photo provided by the seller to the way it arrived.
The damage is not a result of installation or removal. Justaguy, glad to hear all is well on the deal.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Justaguy_99 wrote: »That said, Donnie was a true gentleman about it. We worked out a solution and I'm very satisfied with his service. His feedback rating definitely reflects his business approach, he has earned it. I hope I get a chance to do business again with him in the future. Thanks all for helping me out.
Steve
Steve, I am glad this all worked out. I hope that you get your speakers up and running.Carl -
As long as you are vouching for him... and since you said please.He's learning. Cut him some slack, please. It is obvious to the well trained eye and experienced that the tweeter sustained some excessive high voltage/current, enough to melt it. That, as mentioned, was obvious to me [and I'm sure many others] from the first photo provided by the seller to the way it arrived.
The damage is not a result of installation or removal. Justaguy, glad to hear all is well on the deal.
But I'd still like an answer to my question...
As to your golden eyes... Now here's a visibly, well fried tweeter... Funny how the front looks just fine... but it sounded bad. The slight irregularity in the crimp ring at about 7 o'clock in the seller's pic is all I can see.
I've googled every combination of "bad/ fried/ blown /tweeter/ look/ looking" and more, and our little old club produced the only useful info...More later,
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"There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD -
I'm taking it that this is your question? It is the only one I saw on a quick glance at the thread by you....Did you tell Donnie that you transplanted the tweeter?
If so, the damage was not done by a transplant. Electricity was the culprit here....and a lot of it. Please tell me if I am incorrect about the question you had asked.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
That's it...More later,
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"It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
"There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD -
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