Ford Expedition, destroyed by dumb workers

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edited January 2011 in The Clubhouse
All I can say is 'Wow' :eek:

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2010
    A minor fender-bender. The price you pay for living in NYC. I hope that plow was broken, and not stuck.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited December 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    A minor fender-bender. The price you pay for living in NYC. I hope that plow was broken, and not stuck.

    You're a moron . . . and I'm too tired to explain why.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2010
    I'm not sure the endloader was broke. It may be that he lost the right side drive on it, but you wouldn't lose both the front and rear drive on the right side. You can independently brake them, but for the most part it looked like the driver just didn't have a lot of experience with that kind of unit. It's amazing what you can use the bucket to do to move one of those when stuck, believe me I've had to push myself out of a few sinkholes using the bucket.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited December 2010
    Actually it'a loader, not a plow. All they had to do is disconnect the drive shaft and tow the machine. Pretty simple to do in less than 10-15 minutes. The way these machines are designed it would allow free pivot of the axles. That counter-weight probably destroyed the rear end of that vehicle, repairs will cost.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    You're a moron . . . and I'm too tired to explain why.

    Please. Don't deprive me. I'm sure your wisdom even encompasses sarcasm. :rolleyes:
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited December 2010
    That is a very entertaining video.
    I wouldn't expect the damages to the SUV to be that bad though. Rear gate and window, bumper and rebar, new quarter and possibly quarter glass, front bumper cover. 1 tail light assembly, body work on the right side doors and paint. Obviously it's tough to estimate based on a birds-eye view, but I'd be surprised if the damage was much worse than that.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited December 2010
    Wow. Agreed, what incredible idiots.
    BeRad wrote: »
    That is a very entertaining video.
    I wouldn't expect the damages to the SUV to be that bad though. Rear gate and window, bumper and rebar, new quarter and possibly quarter glass, front bumper cover. 1 tail light assembly, body work on the right side doors and paint. Obviously it's tough to estimate based on a birds-eye view, but I'd be surprised if the damage was much worse than that.

    Umm, and that wouldn't be that bad because it would be...uhh...cheap to repair??
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    That's a lot of snow, and they allow packing on both sides?
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited December 2010
    LOL. "Hold my beer, I want to try something":eek:
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2010
    That is completely outrageous!! You would have to be a complete idiot to allow that to happen!!!

    Call me crazy, but I think a better solution would have been to track down the owner of the SUV, and kindly ask them to move it...rather than say "ahh screw it" and just tearing the hell out of the SUV.
    BeRad wrote: »
    That is a very entertaining video.
    I wouldn't expect the damages to the SUV to be that bad though. Rear gate and window, bumper and rebar, new quarter and possibly quarter glass, front bumper cover. 1 tail light assembly, body work on the right side doors and paint. Obviously it's tough to estimate based on a birds-eye view, but I'd be surprised if the damage was much worse than that.

    Explain to me how exactly you're considering the damage to that SUV to be "not that bad". That whole situation could have been handled completely differently, and without any damage to that SUV. I hope the people responsible for that got a very hefty fine, because that was completely inexcusable.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,739
    edited December 2010
    With more than a foot of snow, I don't think any of those car owners would be able to 'kindly move' their vehicles to allow the end loader to get out easier. I also don't think there was any problem with the loader. You could see front and rear wheels spinning on the right side. I think the driver was just inexperienced and got into a spot they couldn't get out of. The city will end up compensating the SUV driver. No big deal. This kinda stuff happens all the time when there is a blizzard. That's why most communities in the snow belt have ordinances that require cars to be off the streets after a certain time at night. I don't know if NYC has something like this. If so, the city might not even be responsible.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited December 2010
    Oh yeah, no big deal when someone causes probably 10 grand of damage to your car just because they don't know what they're doing. No big deal. Wow.

    Anyone who's ever had body work done knows a car is never the same afterwards. Certainly not something I'd shrug off.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,739
    edited December 2010
    It was a frickin' snow emergency! I say no big deal because it is just a car and regardless of whether the car is the same after repair or not, it can be compensated for. Governments have huge insurance policies to cover this kinda stuff. Its not like there was any loss of life in this ordeal.

    EDIT: Reading on the various news sights, the SUV was actually a City owned vehicle, so in the end, it really is NO BIG DEAL!
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2010
    No big deal, except for the fact that the operator of the endloader obviously isn't trained or competent to a level that protects public safety.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2010
    The driver of the tow truck is at fault as well. I showed the video to friend of mine who has been in and around all aspects of the towing business for over 50 years. He had two words for the tow guy...LAZY IDIOT. He could have easily used the boom to pull the endloader sideways and avoid the car altogether. It might have taken another ten minutes of work.

    Even if it is a city owned vehicle and insurance covers the damage...somebody has to pay for that...and it could have been avoided with a little more effort.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited December 2010
    So...where did the video go?????:confused:
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited December 2010
    Bottom line- long hours, most likely a few players off the bench, and
    you get stuff like this. They most likely WEREN'T experienced at what
    they were doing. Or dead tired and didn't care. This is where
    all city budgets are going. Minor crap in the big picture.
    I'm sure they did a lot worse stuff when nobody was looking.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited December 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    It was a frickin' snow emergency! I say no big deal because it is just a car and regardless of whether the car is the same after repair or not, it can be compensated for. Governments have huge insurance policies to cover this kinda stuff. Its not like there was any loss of life in this ordeal.

    EDIT: Reading on the various news sights, the SUV was actually a City owned vehicle, so in the end, it really is NO BIG DEAL!

    How is it any different? Either it's a personal vehicle and the city is paying for it, which means THE TAXPAYERS are paying for it, or it's a gov't vehicle, and the same thing.

    It could have easily been avoided if the people involved had been paying attention to what they were doing. And this snow emergency nonsense is just that - nonsense. Not every street is "no parking" during a snow emergency, especially someplace like New York where that would be absolutely impossible unless you dumped all the cars into the East River.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,739
    edited December 2010
    My point about the snow emergency was that it was a difficult situation with deep snow and the workers putting in long hours. The City was also getting a lot of flack for not clearing the streets fast enough. Under those circumstances, the incident above is really not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. For a city of 8 million, I'm sure the average resident is probably more concerned with getting the snow cleared than with one city vehicle getting damaged due to careless snow removal crews.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited December 2010
    I understand what you're saying Bill, and you're right that in the "grand scheme" of things it's not a huge deal. But crushing a car wasn't their only option; with just a little more attention and thought they could have accomplished what they were doing without a problem.

    And they chose their job, and get paid for the hours they put in; long hours isn't an excuse for being careless and costing people thousands of dollars. Though I admit that I care much less knowing it's a city vehicle; at least someone didn't go out to their car and find it destroyed, I guess.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2010
    vmaxer wrote: »
    So...where did the video go?????:confused:

    Yes, I can't view it either!
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited December 2010
    Explain to me how exactly you're considering the damage to that SUV to be "not that bad". That whole situation could have been handled completely differently, and without any damage to that SUV. I hope the people responsible for that got a very hefty fine, because that was completely inexcusable.

    The extent of damage has nothing to do with how easily avoidable the incident was. That loader could have easily written the vehicle off with it's size/weight. But it clearly didn't. Not even close. Therefore, the damage, as far as vehicular accidents go, isn't that bad.
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Umm, and that wouldn't be that bad because it would be...uhh...cheap to repair??

    Relative to most repairable wrecks I see, yes, it would be fairly cheap to repair. Especially, if it was done at a smaller privately owned shop. Even cheaper if they used parts off of total-loss vehicles (rear gate with glass, bumper, re-bar, and taillight off of an Excursion that suffered a front impact). Bam: a fixed ****-end for under a grand. Bonus if it's the same colour. :) Door skins aren't that expensive either (assuming they needed replacing and not just repair).
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited December 2010
    Weird, video was taken out.

    Anyway here it is again

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,739
    edited December 2010
    That link in post #25 explains a lot. They all had bad attitudes. Maybe the city should fire the whole lot of them. I doubt the unions would let that happen though.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    With more than a foot of snow, I don't think any of those car owners would be able to 'kindly move' their vehicles to allow the end loader to get out easier.

    You can't seriously tell me that a big **** Ford Expedition that was almost definitely 4 wheel drive, wouldn't have been able to pull out of a foot of snow with a little bit of finesse.
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    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited December 2010
    You can't seriously tell me that a big **** Ford Expedition that was almost definitely 4 wheel drive, wouldn't have been able to pull out of a foot of snow with a little bit of finesse.

    If it had tires in as bad of shape as the ones on my car.... not a chance! ;)
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    That link in post #25 explains a lot. They all had bad attitudes. Maybe the city should fire the whole lot of them. I doubt the unions would let that happen though.

    You said it! They were behaving like a bunch of mafia thugs!
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,739
    edited December 2010
    You can't seriously tell me that a big **** Ford Expedition that was almost definitely 4 wheel drive, wouldn't have been able to pull out of a foot of snow with a little bit of finesse.

    It was actually more like 2 feet. So no, I don't think so. At least not without serious meaty tires, which I rarely, if ever see on Expeditions.

    You think if that front end loader with ~36" tires and all wheel drive can't get out that a passenger vehicle could?
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