Amps of choice

brgman
brgman Posts: 2,859
edited January 2011 in Vintage Speakers
I have looke dall over the boards and still have the question-
I am shopping for a 2Ch amp/amps for my 3.1tl's and i see the following that are A)available and B) in the price range i can handle right now.
Some i am looking at are Adcom 555,555II,585,5500,5802.
Also looked at some Parasound's.HCA1200,HCA2200 and a few others.
i would like to stay at 300-500wpc @ 4 ohms.
I know several on here like the Adcom and Parasound but not sure if there are any dogs that they may have built in the past i should stay away from.And how old i want to go.
Lastly-do i consider 2 amps? And what can of worms may that open for me.
Any input is appreciated.Any money is even more appreciated.
Thanks
Mike
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2010
    Why not consider something like the big parasound A-21 IIRC,,or a Belles 350a ref,,or Pass Labs,,or even a nice tube amp to drive those 3.1's,,say,Cary,VTL,C-J. I think that you would be very happy with a tubed pre and a ss amp,,what is your budget? I'll help you spend it.:cool:
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    I can only drop about a grand.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    Not to be a total d*ck, but you searched the archives and didn't find an answer. This in one of the top 5 topics of all time. It's been discussed to death, to death.

    George made some good suggestions, maybe when you have a more specific question about a particular model you'll get more assistance. Sorry to be blunt but this is a subject asked multiple times weekly.

    Good luck and Merry Christmas.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    I have a Sunfire Sig 400x5 running now but am looking to set up a separate 2 channel with the 3.1's.Want to try a "different" sound.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    I guess I'll comment based on your post.

    Any of the Adcom's are fine except perhaps the 585. Some are common ground, some aren't. Older Adcoms could probably use a refresh as in the 555. The 5802 being the best of the bunch you list regardless of brand.

    Parasound that you list are a good choice as well, if they are older they probably could stand a refresh.

    Watts are overrated and your number is pointless. You don;t need that much power with the choices you have stated.

    2-amps is overrated (as in bi-amping) and hard to implement with SDA's, so forget it. Running them as bridged mono is not recommended and separate mono's could be a choice if you use the AI-1 cable. Monarchy SM-70's are great little mono's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    Ok.Forget i asked.
    It's obvious why you live in a van down by the river!
    Maybe the Mod can delete this thread so it doesn't bother you any longer.
    You have a nice Christmas.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    You are correct I should have just ignored it.

    Please carry on, I apolgise for being so blunt.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited December 2010
    What is wrong with the 585?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2010
    +1 for the 5802.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    Ben-i read a couple things about the 585 having issues.Maybe only an isolated thing.The specs look good to me.The 5802 as well.
    don't think a thousand bucks will get me anything worthwhile in tubes.
    Keeping an eye on ebay and Agon for a nice Adcom i reckon.
    Thanks
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    What is wrong with the 585?

    Older and the possible cap issue. My general opinion is stay away from amps in the 15+ year old category unless there is proof some restoration has been done. That's regardless of brand, etc. For someone like the OP I'm sure trouble free operation is a must. For tinkerer's it's OK. That's not to say every 15+ year old piece of gear needs work, but it certainly is more probable.

    To the OP, the 5802 is a superb amp so I say go for it if you can find one.

    H9

    P.s. don't rely strictly on specs to make a choice.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,251
    edited December 2010
    brgman wrote: »
    Ok.Forget i asked.
    It's obvious why you live in a van down by the river!
    Maybe the Mod can delete this thread so it doesn't bother you any longer.
    You have a nice Christmas.

    I don't get this post,H9 was blunt but very helpful and one of the members here I would take advise from any day of the week..

    Get the GFA-5802 Adcom, You will have to strap the negitive posts on the back but you will be very happy with it, and will have your 3.1tl's singing..

    Your post is out of line and childish, but I do wish you luck in your choice!!!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    fastz28 wrote: »
    If you could find one ps audio 200cx or late model # 200c 75lbs of bliss better then any adcom stereophile review
    A legendary 200w x 2 power amp, referred to as a "poor man's Krell" in its day. Some remarkable words from a 1985 Stereophile review: "Ignore the mystique and hype surrounding more expensive power amplifiers, and compare the 200C to any amplifier, tube or transistor, at any price in terms of overall performance. I have not heard a better transistor amplifier at any price..."
    one just sold on ebay 350 plus shipping.

    Yeah..........that comment was made in 1985 (25 years ago) I'm sure the Chrysler "K" car was one of the best values on the road back then.........where is its place in history now?
    fastz28 wrote: »
    Summing Up
    The PS Audio 200C is one of those few products that can suddenly give your system new life, and challenge your preconceptions about what is really on your records. It is certain to be a "killer" in terms of existing amplifier designs. I am virtually certain that top competitors like Mark Levinson and Threshold will have to rethink their product line; the 200C will even push Krell to upgrade its sound. Many audiophiles will have to rethink buying a tube amplifier. As for the flood of "me too" amplifiers, and virtually all Asian and European imports...

    Let me repeat. The PS Audio 200C really is good enough to merit one-on- one comparison with any other power amplifier at any price. It is a major new entry to Stereophile's list of Class A amplifiers!—AHC

    Description: Solid-state, stereo power amplifier. Inputs: direct-coupled (DC), capacitor-coupled. Output power: >200Wpc into 8 ohms, 400Wpc into 4 ohms, 1000Wpc into 1.5 ohms. Peak current: 64A. Bandwidth: DC to 140kHz, -3dB. Damping factor: >400. S/N Ratio: >100dB. Slew rate: 300V/ms. Rated THD: 0.02%. Rated IMD: 0.01%. Sensitivity: 1.3 volts for rated

    All those specs mean nothing as they don't tell you how it sounds. Just a bunch of unrelated numbers. I'm sure in 1985 this was a nice amp. I KNOW there are several amps today that don't cost a lot that could do better. The 5802 being one of them, w/o a doubt.

    That's not at all so say PS Audio doesn't make really nice gear, they do..........absolutely they do.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    Before i pull the trigger i will look at the ps audio.Never have.Thanks z.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I don't get this post,H9 was blunt but very helpful and one of the members here I would take advise from any day of the week..

    Get the GFA-5802 Adcom, You will have to strap the negitive posts on the back but you will be very happy with it, and will have your 3.1tl's singing..

    Your post is out of line and childish, but I do wish you luck in your choice!!!

    Larry i value EVERYONE's input on this site.That is why i pick yer brains all the time.Had i found the answers i needed/wanted on old threads i would have never posted my thread.
    H9 and i took jabs at each other.Maybe we are both having a bad day,i don't know.
    I am sorry to you H9 if i offended you.
    Now let's please move on.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited December 2010
    fastz28 wrote: »
    In sound the ps audio will blow away any adcom out of water
    adcom and ps audio are not even in same class or league


    I smell troll burning:rolleyes:...

    That is a very bold statement, and a matter of your opinion only.

    To the OP, trust your ears and your wallet, but mostly your ears. Finding an amp to your liking is a lot of trial and error, but it is part of the fun of this hobby. I have limited experience with the Adcom line, but those that I have heard are very good. Thinking outside the box a touch, an amp that is within budget and has a pretty decent pedigree to boot would be the Nakamichi Stasis PA-7mkII designed by Nelson Pass, of Pass Labs fame. These are definately worth a listen.
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  • TrashyTrucker
    TrashyTrucker Posts: 225
    edited December 2010
    brgman wrote: »
    ...Now let's please move on.


    Hey brgman,
    I have the same speaks as you. And now since modded, they are most amazing. I am still in solid state electronics and in regards to the OP,
    I have two amps driving my 3.1TL's so I will not be siding with
    the other inputs in regards to biamping.
    However I can only personally tell you having two (identical) amps inline are an improvement. I do not attempt to make this a argument, all I am saying is:
    this is and is only my opinion.
    I do not bridge amps.
    But do agree on the older amps perhaps some maintanence should be performed over time. They must tuned up, calibrated after so many years?

    GL
    and regards,
    Matt :biggrin:

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited December 2010
    for starters
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1298006907

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1298295469&/Bryston-3B

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1296970388&/Belles-(OCM)-500-Mono-Referenc
    /cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1297047578&/Belles-(OCM)-500-2-Channel-Ref
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    Thanks Trucker.I have been reading your threads for some time as i mod mine.I have considered twin amps.Use to have a Hafler and it was good to me.Maybe re-visit them.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    george daniel wrote: »
    for starters
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1298006907

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1298295469&/Bryston-3B

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1296970388&/Belles-(OCM)-500-Mono-Referenc
    /cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1297047578&/Belles-(OCM)-500-2-Channel-Ref

    George,thanks.Bryston is a dream amp of mine.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited December 2010
    Not familiar with Belles yet.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited December 2010
    brgman wrote: »
    .Bryston is a dream amp of mine.
    And the two linked to should still have a few years left on their warranty.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited December 2010
    fastz28 wrote: »
    In sound the ps audio will blow away any adcom out of water
    adcom and ps audio are not even in same class or league

    Whoa there big fella.:eek:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    fastz28 wrote: »
    In sound the ps audio will blow away any adcom out of water
    adcom and ps audio are not even in same class or league

    In your opinion and I have a different opinion. Really, are these kind of comments even helpful. So far 4 posts in the same thread announcing this is the best amp ever made :rolleyes:.

    I'm sure it deserves to be considered but please stop the blatant fandom and give it a rest. :smile:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited December 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    ... please stop the blatant fandom and give it a rest. :smile:

    H9
    hummm I can't think of any other instances that could possibly be Passed off as such.:wink::smile:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    FTGV wrote: »
    hummm I can't think of any other instances that could possibly be Passed off as such.:wink::smile:

    I believe I've earned the right to be a little enthusiastic as well as I've shown I actually have a lot of experience in this hobby and a lot invested in CP. Am I biased towards a certain type of amp, yes sir I am. :tongue::biggrin:
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,251
    edited December 2010
    My amps are the best amps, am I biased?? why yes I am!!!:tongue::biggrin::cool:
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited December 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Am I biased towards a certain type of amp, yes sir I am. :tongue::biggrin:
    Sorry Brock but I just couldn't resist.:tongue::tongue: I like everyone have my preferences and strong biases to the point I don't care if someone expresses their fanboyism,be it for Adcom Pass or even EMO.:eek: Though Mr. Z28 's wording was a tad strong me thinks.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited December 2010
    Am I biased if I like tubes?:tongue:
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited December 2010
    ^^^^^WaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!


    There probably needs to be an "audio" related joke thread!
    Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
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